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      This one can have legal ramifications. Generally speaking, you can explicitly state that you are not willing to follow the law regarding the duty of jury members to make judgements of fact based on the facts presented. You should be able to defend your position, and you may be asked to do so privately.

      If you were to potentially taint the jury pool by going on about nullification, that might open you up to contempt charges. I’m not saying that it should, but people interested in the subject should know that it’s a risk they run if they take that approach. Talking about nullification outside the context of a court falls under free speech, but I do think people have been cited for handing out nullification flyers outside of a court building.

      I have a similar problem in that I do not believe free will exists, which shifts the idea of “guilt” from a moral to a medical dimension. I could not find anyone guilty of the crime of murder, for example, because there are a whole range of cause and effect cascades that brought the particular action about that had nothing to do with free will or choice. I do think it’s ethical to remove someone who has committed murder from society for as long as that tendency persists, but that’s a very different thing than finding someone guilty of the crime of murder, which requires mens rea - a state of mind that renders an individual as culpable for their actions. I would not find that the defendant had willfully carried out the act, any more than I’d find someone who had an epileptic seizure while driving and killed a pedestrian as guilty of murder. In order to do so, I’d require the prosecution to demonstrate a conclusive neurological argument proving the existence of free will.

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        I think that prison, especially in its current state, is cruel and unusual punishment.

        I also believe that a person having a criminal record that follows them for the rest of their life is cruel and unusual.

        I also think removing a persons voting rights is cruel and unusual.

        So, I’d have a hard time finding anyone guilty.

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        I don’t think people have free will either. It doesn’t follow though that someone couldn’t be found guilty of murder. A rock doesn’t have free will, but you could say it “wants” to roll down a hill. We all “want” to do things even though those desires are the result of countless variables like genetics, upbringing, nutrition, weather.

        In an ideal world the criminal justice system would be designed solely to mitigate future harm caused by criminals, and to reform them to the degree that’s possible. I don’t think punishment or vengeance should be part of the legal system. Still, we have murder charges because someone murdered someone. And we’ve got to do something about it, because otherwise the conditions that led to the first murder could lead to more.

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          I entirely agree with the idea that there are persons that society needs to defend itself from. It’s the same as a physical body needing to defend itself against disease. But if we take an evidence-based approach, our way of addressing the problems would shift. If we know that maternal malnutrition and severe social stresses causes hypertrophy of the amygdala of the fetus, we could cut the crime rate by fixing that part of the problem. The concentration would be on prevention first and treatment second. The treatment would probably include things like psychotherapy or medication.

          Again, I think that the example of a person who has their first epileptic seizure while driving. They will lose their ability to control the vehicle, and muscle spasms may cause them to floor the accelerator. If that person were to then plow onto the sidewalk and kill a child, we would not consider that to be a murder. We wouldn’t think it was a deliberate, and we wouldn’t treat them by exorcism because they’re possessed by a demon. We also wouldn’t treat them by locking them alone in a room for five years and then let them go. We would put them on medication, we would teach them coping mechanisms and give them training and therapy for mitigation, and we would pull their driver’s license until we could determine that their medical condition no longer was likely to produce a similar harmful event.

          We know that punishment based models do not work. The US has a stunningly high incarceration rate and a level of barbarism in prisons that’s pretty unique among developed countries, but nevertheless has higher recidivism and crime rates than, say, the Scandinavian countries.

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      Last time this was brought up somebody pointed out that in certain countries (Germany, I believe) it is actually illegal to drive without purpose, so endlessly circling the roundabout would be illegal. I’m so confused how this could ever be enforced though, not the roundabout thing, but generally. Not anymore, but during lockdown I would put on an audio book and just drive around the countryside for hours. The purpose was keeping me sane, but I wasn’t going anywhere.

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        Well, maybe continuously circling the roundabout *is my purpose for driving. Take that, Germany!

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    How to pass/invalidate a lie-detector test.

    They are not considered admissible evidence in court (but the criminal justice system still use them to a degree…), and they can be interpreted with intentional bias, so I think it’s fine to share.

    One of my psychology professors told me that if you hide something like a sewing needle in your shoe’s insole, you can ever so slightly apply pressure so that the poke causes a physiological spike. They monitor for movement, so it has to be very minute. The goal is to do this on every control question so that they cannot establish a baseline and have to give up.

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      The best way to invalidate a lie detector test is to not take one, because you can not be forced to take one unless you are applying for a job to the CIA.

      Phrenology is more legitimate than polygraphs, and Prenology is nothing but bunk hokum.

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        I had clients in federal probation whose freedom was dependent on the results of annual polygraphs. Refusal was considered a fail, and they’d be shipped back to FedMed or prison. Inconclusive results were also blamed on the clients, and would count as a failed test.

        Was total bullshit, especially given the level of function and serious psychiatric symptoms and diagnoses of my clients.

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          Oh, right.

          For one blissful moment I forgot that America was a festering, infected pustule on the ass of society.

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          A polygraph, often incorrectly referred to as a lie detector test, is a junk science device or procedure that measures and records several physiological indicators … there are no specific physiological reactions associated with lying.

          Lead of Wikipedia article

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            I argued with the PO and complained to my team about it all the time. Polygraphs are definitely junk science and absolutely should not determine someone’s freedom.

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              The only functional use a polygraph has is as a tool of intimidation and coercion to people who are uninformed about the true nature of the device and how the handler can manipulate the results.

              Which is why daytime TV shows like Dr.Phil looooooooooooved polygraphs.

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        Prenology is nothing but bunk hokum.

        Modern IQ testing is often compared to phrenology. In the revised version of “the Mismeasure of Man” (a history of pseudosciences used to measure humans, and why IQ is among them) the author explained that the comparison was unfair… to phrenology.

        While the methodology of phrenology is bunk, Gould explained, it’s theory is sound. Phrenology supposed that their were different locuses in the brain, each responsible for differing functions and that intelligence, behavior, and consciousness was the sum and synergy of these differing regions. This is still more or less the modern understanding of neuroscience. IQ meanwhile fails in methodology and theory.

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        I’ve heard some of the more advanced bullshit detectors have pressure pads that the bullshiter sits on to measure how much actual shit they are holding back while taking a bullshit test to detect the actual bullshit, but that might be bullshit.

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      I’m not sure if this is true, likely not, since I saw it in a movie:

      At the beginning, when they were establishing the baseline, they asked whether she had ever used marijuana. She said yes, which was a lie, but the interviewer thought it was the truth, because come on, who would’ve admitted that?

      The bottom line is, when they’re asking the baseline questions, lie (sometimes).

      Again, I don’t know how far this is from the truth, but that show was pretty cool.

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    There are free private, and generally better-working versions of almost every software program. Including, operating systems, social media, email, telephone, etc

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      Blender 3D, Krita, and Gimp have been the pillars of my creative life. And since last year November I’ve been running Linux.

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        yeah but gimp is kind of… not great. I’m not sure how I managed to use it as a teenager 20 years ago lol.

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          I’m not sure how I managed to use it as a teenager 20 years ago lol.

          Probably because the interface was a lot more intuitive back then. I’ve taught myself Inkscape, but the latest versions of GIMP utterly defies me.

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          Perfectly. It runs perfectly. Blender is pretty much at home on Linux, and rendering with cycles is a little faster than on Windows.

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        In a software ecosystem where almost every program or site you interact with expects some form of steady cash flow in a combination of subscription paywalls, pervasive surveillance, and intrusive ubiquitous ads then I think it does.

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      Person named Reality Leigh Winner…somehow that sounds exactly like the name of someone who would leak documents

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        I mean… She’s the reason we know the Russians wanted Trump to win and took actions to compromise our physical election infrastructure. She leaked that while the Trump administration was actively trying to bury it.

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        yeah there’s irony to the name and coinciding events… almost like someone named Trump hoarding national secrets after an attempted coup.

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    The Anarchist’s Cookbook is full of bad information, you should use the US Improvised Munitions guide instead

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      The Anarchist’s Cookbook is full of bad information

      Yes it is… even the title is dreck because it wasn’t written by anarchists or even for anarchists.

      The US Improvised Munitions books you find online is far better but they are still pretty old, though.

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    That you can leave the interrogation room any time you want if you’re being questioned for a crime.

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      What is the best script to deal with this?

      1. Am I being detained?
      • yes: (I want to Speak to lawyer) --> 1
      • no:
      1. Am I free to go?
      • yes: Go
      • no: --> repeat 1

      ♾️

      No need to go outside this script?

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        speak very basic and plain. don’t use coloqualisms, don’t use slang, etc.

        One guy told a cop “I want my lawyer, dog”, and and they never got him one saying there were no dog lawyers, and the courts…of course, backed up the police, in clear violation of common sense and decency.

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          Just pretend they’re a computer, same thing with laws. There’s a reason it usually called the Tax Code or Criminal Code

          Make 'em divide by zero by recursively using that script or the endless WHY loop

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          But you can choose to do that confidently with something like this is mind

          You just refuse to accept non yes/no answers. Play dumb. So…yesno…i dont understand

          Edit: or just do that kid thing where they ask “Why?” -> Why? -> Why?..

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      Ehh…this isn’t always the case. But you definitely never have to say anything to the police. You just ask for a lawyer and say nothing else. The lawyer will know whether or not they can hold you.

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      Yeah at this point I feel like thats only technically possible, as even if the arrest was found to be unlawful, they’ll claim something else you did in defending yourself was illegal afterwards

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        Meh, if it’s truly unlawful the DA will drop the charges. Until then you are subject to whatever bullshit the cop subjects you to with virtual impunity. Slap you with disorderly conduct, arrested. Or say they arrested you because you were resisting arrest.

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      The slew of convictions for nothing more than resisting arrest would seem to suggest that’s outdated knowledge.

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    How to make controlled substances.

    It’s not illegal for anyone to know, it is also technically legal to make and possess if you have the correct licensing for some substances, but it is illegal to synthesize them.

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    You can request your trial to be done by mail, yes this is legal and if you truly want to get out of a speeding ticket or any other tickets or fine. Just do it the trial by mail and always postpone it for a greater chance of the officer just letting you win it. The source for all my information is from a lawyer, also check your local laws or state laws about this, thank you maggoty as it depends.

    Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfwL6P2bc2s

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    Ethyl Mercaptan, used as the warning odor for natural gas/propane, is not regulated.

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      So I could get some and just release it literally anywhere there are people, at least one of whom would inevitably call the fire department and they’d come out and waste a bunch of resources looking for non-existent propane? Huh.

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        Could still be an act terrorism, since mercaptan has health and environmental hazards. The concentration used for odorizing natural gas is extremely low, since humans can pick up its scent pretty easily. But anything above 500 ppm and you have problems.