No need to name names or sources.

Mine has to be some dude that insisted that advertising is a “30,000 year old technology”

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    That all small business owners are thieves and out to scam their customers - This was part of someone’s argument defending big box stores.

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      I mean I kind of assume all business owners are, though small business owners don’t have that shit baked in like megacorps.

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      I took the most diarrhoeal of diarrhoeal shits this morning. I’d like to see you make this political.

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        Easy! Why do you think it happened? Inadequate food regulation? Underfunded healthcare? Insufficient regulation of pollutants that can impact health and cause chronic disease?

        I don’t know your individual circumstances, but given the state of the world right now, I’d bet it’s a combination of all three.

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      I fucking hate this.

      Especially when they basically self-hypnosis themselves into the placebo affect and swear that their magic powdered crystal enema can fix everything.

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        Yes, but those are dirty, brutish science rocks. Not special coloured crystals with the powers of emotional healing™, protection against negative auras™ or unseen life™, and the power to give a room or a house a positive atmosphere™.

        You know, the kind that those doctors (who totally know nothing at all!) don’t want you to know about because it’ll put them out of business.

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          I use very nice quartz in my daily life, and if they would have cracks or so my day would definitely be ruined

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          Replace them with colored glass for a week and see if anything happens. Then you can publish your results in Crystals Weekly if they work, or one of the science ones if they don’t.

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          Don’t forget “promoting wellness”.

          I appreciate that we’re past the days when they could make specific claims and get away with it, though.

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    “Fahrenheit describes the level of comfort for a human. From coldest to warmest that you may experience outside.”

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      It needs some adjustment. 0 is fine, but 68 should be the new 100. We shouldn’t have to exist in climates warmer than that.

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      As an American I used to use a variation of this phrase.

      Then I decided to experimentally switch to using Celsius. Took a few weeks/months to really internalize it and stop having to do on-the-fly conversions, but honestly I love it.

      It’s remarkable how useful having 0 be freezing is for weather. It makes understanding sub-freezing temperatures much easier. Which also helps reinforce what a degree Celsius means.

      I wish other Americans would try it. I haven’t gone back, all my devices are still on Celsius over five years later.

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        I might be alone on this but the freezing point of water is almost irrelevant in daily life. Any precipitation from 30°F (-1°C) to 35°F (1.5°C) results in some mix of snow/slush. Less than that and it’s snow/ice.

        However if you live somewhere where they use salt as a de-icer, knowing the freezing point of saltwater (0°F, -17.7°C) is very, very important.

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      Best response to this is to ask whether 50°F is a comfortable room temperature.

      Actually, no. The best response is no response.

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        The arguments Fahrenheit’s defenders make are not objective, they vary from person to person. Does a hot summer’s day feel like 100%? Yes, no, maybe? For me it doesn’t, I’ve been in a sauna. Does an arbitrary distance below freezing feel like 0%? Or does 0% come earlier, i.e. once you can no longer exist without clothing?

        If the defenders made arguments like “it’s neat to have 100° at body temperature” I wouldn’t say anything. But the arguments they make (see my quote) are not factual.

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          Oh, yeah. All temperature experience is subjective. It’s just that F is closer to “big round numbers” than C for our experiences.

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        My brother in Christ. You are 70° water.

        And what is a Major factor in weather? Water.

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          My brother in Christ

          Yikes.

          My brother in Satan, this is the dumbest shit I’ve ever seen on the fediverse. Your assumption that someone else is your brother in a superstition you were groomed into is offensive ignorant and regressive.

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            Bro… It’s a reference to a meme about subway sandwiches. Literally “Brother in Christ” was written over a scribbled out n word. I think you’re being a little overly heated over a meme phrase.

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              I think you’re being a little overly heated over a meme phrase.

              Maybe. All the same, I prefer to keep people’s icky superstitions from being normalized as “just meme phrases”

              There used to be a lot of those that people would say that they don’t anymore.

              I’m 100% allowed to hate Christianity and not want it pointed at me in any way. I’m allowed to be overly heated about it too.

              In my country Christians have made my daughters the first generation of American women to have fewer rights than their mothers did.

              So “my brother in Christ” is the same to me as “my brother in the acceptable oppression of others”

              Fuck that shit.

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              Can’t tell if serious.

              That’s how I feel about every Christian

              They say they’re Christian but don’t seem to like Christ.

              May our dark lord illuminate the path to enlightenment and freedom from the oppression of superstition. In his name we invoke power to ourselves, hail Satan.

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                Okay, so you are serious.

                Dude, it’s a meme quote. OP is statistically very likely an atheist, since this is Lemmy.

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                  I find it offensive

                  In the parlance of our time : it’s a micro-aggression

                  Like using “Jew” as a verb

                  This is lemmy shouldn’t we be more enlightened?

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      Yep, there’s definitely nowhere it goes below 0 F. /s

      Actually, the Persian Gulf gets above 100 regularly as well, if I have what that is in Celsius roughly correct.

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      Europeans shaking and crying at the realization that the difference between 70° and 75° is more obvious and meaningful than 21.11° and 23.88°

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        Americans shaking that 20-25C is more obvious than 68-77

        Above 30 you just complain 25-30 you wear shorts 20-25 you wear whatever 15-20 you wear a t shirt and jeans 10-15 you consider a light jacket or a long sleeve 5-10 you firmly wear the light jacket or long sleeve 0-5 you bring a heavier coat Below 0 you complain

        Beautiful 5 degree increments that perfectly describe what to wear in C Where with Fahrenheit you end up with weird numbers like 86 degrees

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          I like that scale, but Ottawa exists: can you give us the various levels of lament from 0 down to -40 or -50?

          And is there a bonus wind scale to add to the suck?

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            I tried going pretty general with the first one but my personal is between 0 to -5 I wear a coat -5 to -10 consider gloves -10 to -15 wear gloves -15 to -20 wear heavy gloves -20 to -30 wear glasses and a buff/mask -30 to -40 add glove liners and question why I live in a place that gets this cold Haven’t gone below -40 but I imagine it’s just complaining

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        I don’t understand why the difference between 70 ad 75 is more obvious than 21 and 24. Can you explain it?

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        *Europeans, Asians, Africans, southamericans, australiaandoceanians and 23/24 of northamericans

        *21.11°

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    I once got accused of having a corporate shill account after explaining how coupons work.

    Man was whingeing about paying full price for Domino’s and got pissed at me when I pointed out they didn’t use the 2 for 7 deal that takes up half their homepage.

    Some people just can’t admit they fucked up XD

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      You can’t say you like literally any product on the internet otherwise people call you a corporate shill. It’s frustrating because people sometimes like things…that’s just the nature of life in general. Sometimes you like something that was made by a company and not just already existing in nature…

      Reminds me though…I recently got called a “Russian bot” by someone on Lemmy recently. I was super confused because the content of the conversation had nothing to do with Russia or the war or Russian viewpoints or anything. It was so out of left field that I had no idea what they were talking about.

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      Please don’t choke people during sex even consenting people. If you need the sensation just put your hands on their collarbone and don’t actually cut off their windpipe.

      After reading some kink books that give detailed instructions about how to suspend people, to give people piecing, fake cutting people as well as convince your sub that you have a loaded gun in their mouth with the disclaimer about how dangerous choking is really puts in perspective. There are tools to safely cut off air supply don’t choke someone

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        Just ask David Carradine. Although, I’m still not convinced it was suicide.

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        if done properly with good technique it’s not that risky. you need to trust your partner, have good communication (including both verbal and nonverbal systems of consent), and have the awareness to monitor your partner’s physical state while doing the deed.

        breathplay is edgeplay but imo it’s one of the safer forms of edgeplay

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      Hmmmm.

      So what does it mean if I enjoy practicing hojojutsu on my consensually non-consenting partner…?

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    That using 100% free and open source software is more important than actually getting your work done.

    In a thread about Affinity Photo where someone insisted that we should all use gimp and just not edit photos if gimp doesn’t have the features we need rather than asking Serif to port their software to Linux.

    Also in several threads about migrating from Windows to Linux where every missing or complicated feature was brushed away with “just get used to not being able to do it, even if it’s critical to your workflow”.

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      It’s always good to use FOSS where possible.

      If it isn’t possible for you, then don’t. Perhaps try advocating for the FOSS alternatives to be better and drive up competition, forcing the software you do use to innovate.

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      That is 10,000% people who don’t do creative work especially professionally. I am fine with gimp and darktable versus anything Adobe/paid but I also barely use them lol. I would be back off Linux in a heartbeat if I honestly couldn’t use something I needed even though I prefer it.

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        Medical work, too. Several exam machines only work with Windows. I’ve heard once that “wine’s pretty good nowadays”, which completely ignores the detail that it isn’t tested with said equipment and its drivers.

        Anything related to engineering, whether civil or mechanical, also goes with either Windows or Mac, because the free CAD options don’t hold a candle to AutoCAD and others.

        Lastly, there’s no FOSS alternative to completely replace Microsoft Active Directory, so offices where 90% of the work is done on the web browser won’t bother because they’ll be losing control over individual machines.

        There’s so much focus on “me” and “freedom” that they often forget there’s a whole damn world of different needs around them.

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          I agree with this, outside of bs windows throws if you change the motherboard. Desktop Linux stability reminds me of Windows 7 levels of OS stability. Great for most, not for mission critical.

          With that said i feel you are being overtly critical to FOSS CAD software. I use FreeCAD in a professional setting and it is extremely stable, and for my use case it is as capable with no missing features. Yes the software isn’t beginner friendly, but I honestly found it made my designs more accurate since it had more constraints for sketches.

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            What were you using BEFORE FreeCAD if it has MORE sketch constraints?? Man, I found it so limiting compared to NX. Especially the sketching. And surfacing appeared to be basically nonexistent. Maybe I’m too spoiled with NX, but I dont think I could function for even a day on FreeCAD. It’s worse than SolidWorks (and I hate SolidWorks). I really, really wanted to like it. I even gave it a second chance when 1.0 dropped.

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                Ah, ok. I’ve been using NX since it was still Unigraphics, so I am admittedly biased. I haven’t tried any of the newer things like Fusion or Sketchup. Might I ask what industry you use FreeCAD for at a professional level? Just curiosity. I’m automotive interiors tooling, so I’m pretty dependent on strong surfacing tools. Lots of A-surface stuff.

                Also, how would you model this up in FreeCAD? This took me about 15 minutes in NX, with one sketch and some offset curves. I was making a 3D printed tag for my daughter.

                I tried for over two hours in FreeCAD, but only got this far. I could not extrude individual bodies from one sketch, I had to make separate sketches for each shape. Offset curves didn’t appear to be a thing, and I couldn’t find any form of synchronous modeling tools. So, making those raised outlines was a whole other challenge. I ended up having to extrude a sheet taller than the main body, then thicken it. I couldn’t figure out how to select face edges for use in other commands, either. I ended up giving up.

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          I could go on for days about the problems with medical devices. I write software for one of those at my day job and as much as our team would love to port the software to something other than Windows, that would be a logistical nightmare.

          The thunderbolt connection alone can break because of a thousand factors, even on the exact combination of hardware and operating system it was tested with. Processing of medical images is often very GPU-heavy which gives us the same problems as with CAD software.

          Even if you get all the technical problems out of the way, medical devices need to be certified before you’re allowed to use them for diagnostics. This often includes an exact specification of the platform you run the software on. If you just take something that’s certified for “Windows 10 between 20H2 and 22H2, Intel or AMD CPU, device driver version 8.1.23” and try to run it on Wine, I would expect the American FDA, German TÜV and Chinese NMPA to fight over who gets to kick your door in first. It might be possible to get a certification for a Linux version but probably only for one specific combination of distribution, display server and desktop environment.

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          CAD options also flow over to the whole GPU debate as well. Yes, Nvidia’s company practices are awful. Yes, I’d love to have more options. But this doesn’t change that most of the heavyweight CAD options out there don’t play well with non-Nvidia GPUs.

          I’d love it if there were FOSS / GPU-agnostic CAD options. But until then, focusing on what works is important, y’know?

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    One of the first argument I’ve got myself into was returning the shopping cart to the designated spot. This person was replying to like 5 people at once justifying why they don’t always return the cart, because the weather is hot and the corral is far, etc. while we disapproved.

    Got some reddit argument PTSD from that lol

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      The shopping cart argument is a great place to start managing the human race. And I don’t mean in a binary manner - let’s just start with those who never bother returning the cart. To a startlingly large majority, they tend to demonstrate traits that are wholly incompatible with a polite and empathetic society.

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        The only defence is “I’m a dickwad”. And I’d accept that if they owned it and we could verbally abuse them for being a dick, for only like 10 minutes after every episode.

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          Maybe if you’re severely mobility-impaired, but then you would probably have a device to assist you, so it still shouldn’t happen…

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        They weren’t defending that, the argument was whether someone who doesnt return a trolley is a bad person or not. Some people argued it was a trivial thing that meant nothing either way, some argued it meant they were evil, and some argued in the middle somewhere.

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          it’s a low stakes indicator.

          someone who doesn’t return their cart isn’t automatically a bad person, but rather is more likely to be a bad person than someone who does return their cart.

          people are lazy and in a hurry, so will often not say the full long version, and this applies to many things people often say. People then get “um actually” about it because the short version is technically wrong.

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          Life, which you so nobly serve, comes from destruction, disorder and chaos. Take this empty glass. Here it is, peaceful, serene and boring. But if it is [Pushes glass off table] destroyed…

          Robot cleaners move to clean broken glass

          Look at all these little things. So busy now. Notice how each one is useful. What a lovely ballet ensues, so full of form and color.

          Now, think about all those people that created them. Technicians, engineers, hundreds of people who’ll be able to feed their children tonight so those children can grow up big and strong and have little teeny weeny children of their own, and so on and so forth. Thus, adding to the great chain…of life.

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      I started an argument like that once. I made a joke about how there is literally always at least one person who defends not putting the cart back.

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        I don’t put the cart back because the workers at my grocery store keep telling me not to

        To be fair I walk with a limp and a cane and hobbling back to my car is more of a pain then just popping the front of the cart up and hitching it on the planters. So it doesn’t roll into someone.

        The workers there know me well and I show up 10 mins before closing on my way to work every day to get a snack for work.

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        Only reason to not put it back is when you don’t wanna fight the homeless person bringing it back for you to keep the deposit coin.

        Or when you’re drunk, going downhill with friends, crash and total it and take it home to make a grill out of it.

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      Lmao I think I remember that one! Big Cart has a network of Lemmy shills, trust no one. 🕵‍♂️

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      I used to not take my cart in, but I worked at Walmart at the time and pushed carts for them when needed. I didn’t mind doing it all, and didn’t care where anyone left their carts. Now that I’ve been at a better job for a while I put them up. Don’t want to be out of touch with Cary pushing.

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    One that I read on Mastodon:

    Every bad thing about commercial software is the programmers’ fault. Even if it was something that management decided and the programmer fought against it and lost. They claimed you should rather risk losing your job than accepting an inconvenience for your user. Weird take but okay. Then they started comparing software engineers to soldiers “just following orders” during the holocaust. That’s where I blocked them. Cherry on top: they have “if you want to hire me as a software engineer, message me” in their bio. I wonder why nobody wants to hire them…

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    Whatever the hell this conversation was:

    Transcript:

    Recessa, ↑4 ↓1: That’s completely idiotic, production exist because there’s demand for it.

    commie, ↑1 ↓4: I think you understand that milk is produced as part of the mammalian reproductive cycle. can you describe the causal steps between demanding milk and it’s production?

    friendlymessage, ↑3 ↓2: Do you think dairy cattle just randomly spawns on the planetary surface?

    commie, ↑1 ↓3: do you think there’s a direct causal link between drinking milk and more being produced?

    friendlymessage, ↑3: Are you fucking with me?

    commie, ↑2 ↓3: no. I’m trying to illustrate that markets are not governed by natural law; they are populated by irrational actors.

    friendlymessage, ↑2 ↓1: Yeah, but they’re not as irrational as you are and producing milk costs money. If there’s no market, they will stop because they are not fuckin lunatics and they don’t have infinite resources

    commie, ↑2 ↓2: milk was farmed before markets existed. there is no reason to believe that will ever stop.

    friendlymessage, ↑3 ↓1: That… must be the dumbest discussion I’ve had in a while. Please read through your comments tomorrow when you’re sober

    commie, ↑1 ↓1: I’ve been sober all day.

    friendlymessage, ↑1: Okay, whatever you say

    commie, ↑1 ↓2: everything I’ve said is true. you’re objecting to reality, and being pretty shitty about it to me.

    friendlymessage, ↑2: No, you’re just making a no sensical argument at all. Milk was farmed from dairy cattle because it was consumed by humans. It’s simple supply and demand. There is no rational argument at all that if mankind stopped consuming milk, it would still be farmed. Why would any farmer go through the effort to upkeep cows and keep them impregnanted to make them produce milk if they cannot trade it or won’t consume it? Yes, humans have free will but they won’t produce stuff with very high effort just for fun. Except maybe very sick minds that just enjoy animal cruelty. And you won’t elaborate what your actual point is anyway.

    Also, not that it matters, but you’re arguing that dairy farming existed before the market is simply wrong. There has been trade between human civilizations long before we started domesticating animals.

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      There are legitimate reasons not not want to use or not be able to use Linux.

      Calling the very real privacy issues presented by windows as a “conspiracy theory” is not one of them.

      Also these people are delusional. They don’t understand why the steam deck is popular because quote “the main appeal of PC Gaming is modding and using a Keyboard and Mouse.” Which is a bold claim because I thought the point was having better control over what you play instead of hoping Microsoft, Nintendo, and PlayStation release those games on chosen console.

      Do these people have an idea how many Stardew Valley Clones I can play on PC that will never touch an Xbox?

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      Wow, are we the baddies? This guy must have a really bad time in the Linux communities.

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        Kinda unironically: yes.

        Linux is great for some use cases and at least decent for most others but what I’ve experienced in some Linux communities made me understand why people don’t feel welcome. In a thread literally titled “Help me like desktop Linux” that listed a few things I was struggling with, I got hit with a bunch of “you’re an idiot for not using the exact same distro that I like”, “works on my machine” and “you want the wrong things”. Even as someone who already had over a decade of Linux server experience, that almost made me turn around and walk away.

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          Yes, that’s true, sometimes bug research pointed me to the arch Linux forums, and I was like: never ever I post one of my noob questions there. But that’s not all. Its just one point of view.

          The skill level differences with Linux are huge. And people that wrote great wikis are sometimes frustrated if they get asked things they already explained elsewhere.

          Linux is confusing for beginners, never forget this fact and be kind.

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          I’m sorry you had that experience.

          For some reason some Linux users are strict and preachy about it instead of treating it like a piece of software/environment just like any other.

          Aside from that, it’s just good practice to be kind to others and explain things to new (and not new) users in a reasonable way.

          Hopefully you find a solution that works for you (for whatever OS you choose).

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    Someone was trying to say the Van Halen’s song “Jump” was about suicide. Despite being presented with an interview with David Lee Roth (who wrote the song) explaining what the song was about. Still think about that. Idk why. Maybe because it was like one of those conversations you have with an edgy emo kid in highschool and realize they are full of shit. Some weird nostalgia I guess

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      It is a song influenced by seeing a report about a suicidal jumper, but repurposing the idea into a positive one. Basically, it is saying that instead of a suicide jump someone should take a leap of faith and improve things.

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      People fixate on certain lyrics and kinda ignore the rest of the song.

      I knew someone who swore “Hallelujah” by Leonard Cohen was a dirty song because two lines could be interpreted as innuendo.