This is fake and gay. Literally
Yeah, 20 dudes is rookie numbers
Ikr? I’ve fucked more guys than that, and I’m straight
I think he was referring to so far that night, right? Right?!?
i mean, he is an anon.
Yep, these are manufactured posts meant to create hate against women from something that never happened.
Yeah, the fact that OP mentioned being at a party was sus. Nobody who posts on 4 Chan is ever invited to parties.
Shouldn’t it have been “How many guys have you fucked?” He didn’t say “you dudes.”
Why would she ask “How many dudes have you fucked?” to attack his position??
It seems like a completely different topic altogether. I call fake.
Oh and the gay part is trivial and left as an exercise to the reader.
“You fuckers” is the correct nomenclature
“Fuckos” for informal situations
os
That’s male-coded in Spanish
Not in Australia it isn’t. I see your cultural imperialism is still in full throttle.
I’m fairly sure Spanish works the same in Australia as elsewhere. Might be wrong, haven’t been down under :P
Spanish isn’t widely spoken down here though. The origin is completely different. We have a habit of adding -o to various words in Australian parlance - bottleo for bottle shop, the name John becomes Johno, arvo for afternoon, ambo for ambulance driver and fuckos for fuckers. Your assumption it’s spanish is incorrect and culturally ignorant, and your attempt to dictate from that ignorance with the assumption that your personal experience and worldview is dominant and correct …tsk tsk tsk i’m afraid this is going to cost you.
No hablo inglés, por desgracia
“what is up, my mammals?”
At some point you need to take responsibility for your insecurities and work on moving past them rather then expecting society to placate you. Languages evolve, so if your end goal is gender equality (or even if its not), the best thing you can do is accept that words are context sensative and “dude” and “guys” can be neutral terms.
Alternatively, if a woman asks you not to call her a guy or a dude, respect that.
I’m so fucking sick of the neg culture that pretends to be politically correct. There’s malicious sexism and loads of assholes out there for sure but some feel emboldened to attack anyone they construe to be saying what they think is wrong regardless of context.
Someone will always be offended by absolutely fucking everything. They can go fuck themselves.
People really dont understand how languages work. Even brother and man can be gender neutral. If you say “man, whyd you do that” thats gender neutral. Same with dude and guy.
Whatever you say, girliepop
I’m a man but I love when people call me babygirl or something like that
Yo, something like that, send nudes
They look hot
8=>
Niiiiice. This is like porn in the 00s.
Yours:
Mine: 8=========>
don’t body shame me :'//
Is this the latest iteration of “tits or GTFO”? I haven’t been keeping up
It was a dad joke and you missed it.
gay men call each other sis and girl all the time too, for alternatives that go in reverse
me@lemmy~$ man
This. I’ve got a fair few trans friends, and we’re all in agreement - unless it’s obvious we’re talking in gendered terms based on context, “dude”, “man”, “bro”, etc are just interjections, not reference to someone’s gender. And, when we are talking in gendered contexts, we tend to be pretty clear about that.
It’s really great that you have friends who are in a good enough place to not worry about that stuff.
This is really great news to me as I am all about telling my dudes it’s Wednesday!
Human … man, it’s a just shorter version 😉
Is woman short for womb-man?
No, the etymology is actually completely distinct from the gendered usage of “man.” It’s actually quite interesting.
Bro y u so wrong
Thats a joke right? Because youre getting downvoted, but you yourself called me bro without knowing my gender so it must be a joke or youre the most oblivious person ive ever seen.
Is jokes
But like…I think it goes beyond just gender specificity & is also an attempt to address the embedded patriarchy of our culture & language. Those interjection words being male of center as a default is something I wanna unpack, too.🤷🏽
Then let’s also start using sis and girl when referring to men. BOOM EQUALITY!
Idk about the rest of it but dude and guys can totally be gender neutral and i hate people that dont get that. Its such a bitchy thing to get mad about
Also queen, “James, you’re such an Excel queen”. I’ve seen this sort of use many times at my workplace. It doesn’t have anything to do with gender or sexual orientation.
It’s obviously more niche than “dude” but I’ve seen it before.
deleted by creator
Bitchy is also unisex
deleted by creator
Dude is also genderless.
I’m a dude. He’s a dude. She’s a dude. We’re all dudes!
I worked at a university and I heard women call each other “bro” all the time.
bruh
My teenage daughters say “bruh” pretty often.
Almost like OP is making shit up
Dude for me is genderless, but it’s not a label everyone can fit into, you gotta be chill.
If they don’t abide, they lack dudeness
but am i a dude?
No.
ö
Depends on the context.
“Hey Brian, were you making out with a dude last night!?”
“Haha, no, that was Annie, she’s a chick, she just has short hair.”
Dude(s) and Guy(s) can be gender neutral or male-only. Girl can mean a female child, or it can mean a woman, depending on the context.
That means it’s not gender neutral, it just means you use male as a default in most contexts.
Its gener neutral male leaning and is context specific. Like bastard or fucker.
“Bastard” is what you call “male leaning” because it was used for male children born outside of marriage who therefore couldn’t inherit titles.
It wasn’t used much for girls cause they couldn’t inherit titles anyway, so it didn’t matter.“Fucker” is “male leaning” cause women were historically not seen as doing the fucking. They were fucked.
But pegging.
Butt*
“Cunt” it is, then.
I view “guys” and “dudes” as gender neutral but when its directed towards me i start feeling like shit
Man… I’m sorry.
Man…
Thomas has never seen such bs before
I always “y’all” and I’m not even from the south.
Y’all gives modern English the second person plural it would otherwise be missing
Missing? It is that part of speech! 😁 “You all,” the thing it conjoins, is proper English and the accurate thing to say. We do have it. We just refuse to try harder to be less patriarchal bc “guy” has less syllables. And most of the time it’s preceded by “you” anyway, so not even shorter. (If I’m wrong, someone please correct me)
I take the time to correct myself in meetings, “when can you guys- ahem you all” - no apology, bc I’m doing my best, and demonstrating in my actions.
What about youse?
I’ve always been fond of “yinz”, despite never having been to Pittsburgh
Yinz welcome to try our chipped ham ‘n’at regardless
Yousa bombad, meesa like muy muy!
“You” used to be that word, but mfs didn’t wanna say “thou” anymore so “you” has to pull double duty now
In parts of the south “y’all” is singular. “All y’all” is plural.
As a super non-Southern USA guy, anytime I drop a “y’all” into convo, my Southerner friends say I’m not doing it right because I simply substitute all “you” instances with “y’all”.
I guess these friends don’t come from the singular-y’all part of the South.
What?
“Would ya’ll like a soda?” Vs. “Would all ya’ll like a soda?” - one of these means everyone shares one soda, the other means each person gets their own - but I don’t know which is which :O
You misspelled coke. Nobody says “soda” in the south, coke covers that. You have sprite coke, root beer coke, etc.
All zones can be the yall zone
Y’all is a really good pronoun and I think more people should use it.
It makes everyone sound American. This is sometimes okay.
As a Canadian, I use y’all, but usually only if the word ‘motherfuckers’ immediately follows it.
I like comrade more, but y’all is shorter.
As someone from the west coast, I disagree.
Obviously fake, but the response is a total non-sequitur to set up for the grindr but.
It’s because the joke story was supposed to be " hey dudes" That way the woman asks “how many dudes have you fucked” he can then go into the Grindr gotcha
This is a good joke but it really lets itself down by switching from “guys” to “dudes” when it’s about the former word…
It’s not a problem until someone tells you to not refer to them as a dude or a guy. If you continue, you are just an asshole 🤷🏻
Sure, but we’re talking plurals of strangers atm. “Please don’t call me a guy going forward” is a different conversation than “what you just said is stupid, mean, and wrong”.
It’s the same picture?
No it really isn’t. One clearly and directly communicates a need. The other response shies away from that and insults without explaining why.
Drag… Supposes, that’s how it would look without applying much empathy. But if someone gets called something and says it’s bad, it must be clear they don’t like it. If they’re angry, that’s a kind of upset. It means they could be hurting. Drag would understand no matter how someone phrased it.
If the other party is 3, then yes. From adults I expect ability to differentiate between stating a need and throwing a tantrum.
Drag is very forgiving when a trans person is upset they’ve been misgendered. Growing up as the wrong gender is traumatic. It can literally give you cPTSD and personality disorders. Being triggered because you feel like you’re back in that situation is a completely understandable response. Drag uses gender neutral “guys”, but acknowledges that it’s a dangerous practice, and if you hurt someone then you need to own it. They don’t owe anyone politeness in that moment. If drag didn’t like that responsibility, drag wouldn’t take risks with other people’s mental health.
Out of curiosity, have your therapist told you ever about the dangers of using third person pronoun when expressing yourself? Like it strengthens the disassociation between you and your body and mind, etc. etc? If not, please change them.
This is coming from a genuine place, I’m not trying to be sarcastic or mean.
I mean I’ll be nice about it and correct to girls or ladies or whatever, but that conversation is probably over
deleted by creator
I just told you I would respect it. But I don’t view “you guys” as something divisive. So yeah I don’t want to be around those people
deleted by creator
Nah I’m doing pretty ok.
Also fuck maga
deleted by creator
I’m not pretending? And I’m also not hard-line
Understanding is a meeting in the middle. It’s reasonable to correct the record on how you as an individual would like to be gendered. It’s not reasonable to expect all of society to drop the use of a word that is colloquially accepted as gender neutral. At a certain point, your outrage is the antisocial behavior.
deleted by creator
I think the amount of people who either (1) do not know the term to be gender neutral or (2) purposefully use it as a gendered term to anger people is less than 1%, honestly.
I live in a pretty conservative area, and I’m not exactly a leftist either, and I’ve never seen guys used in any way other than just as a generic for “you all”
it’s also just not important enough to die on a hill for
Cool, so we agree it’s silly to get so strung up over it, huh? Of course people tailor their language, it happens constantly. If someone is going to go out of their way to construe a perfectly normal part of speech as me being malignant and demand that I change my behavior for their benefit I’m going to tell them to fuck off, personally. If someone is respectful and asks tactfully…sure, I’ll adjust for them. Though internally I’ll be judging them for being a snowflake.
deleted by creator
How does a snowflake screw in a lightbulb? They hold the bulb, and the whole world revolves around them.
I think it’s more that if you get annoyed at something like that, I would think you’re way too much of a hassle to be friends with long term. It’s just a matter of compatibility and the choice to filter out incompatible people in your social circle. It’s nothing personal.
deleted by creator
Of course I would stop at their request, however if I were that person with PTSD, I wouldn’t expect the world to cater to my disabilities and strategise on how I could function in society by managing it. That’s what I currently do with my own PTSD and it makes me a stronger person for it.
Also, that’s hardly comparable to using the phrase “you guys” in a conversation. That phrase has always been gender neutral and far nicer sounding than “you people” or “you all”.
Edit: and also, yes I would have no idea on why the other party would take offence to the phrase “you guys” but I would also be under no obligation to establish a friendship with them beyond that conversation. I don’t expect someone I’ve just met to trauma dump on me and I don’t want them to.
Of course, I would correct myself in that conversation and not use the phrase “you guys” after they’ve told me not to use it, because it’s polite to do so, but that won’t stop me feeling that I can’t be myself around them.
deleted by creator
Or, just maybe. The person remarking is an asshole. It gives off the same energy as correcting grammar when talking with someone.
Why does the other persons energy matter? If someone requests not to be called something and you continue to call them that then you are kinda being a jerk. It’s not the same as correcting someone’s grammar.
Cause it’s rude. Like correcting grammar in a conversation. Both would be equally rude.
Nobody wants to be told that what they’ve learned and have been taught to them their whole life is now an offense. Just like nobody wants to be misgendered on purpose.
“Learning new things is offensive”
Big yikes
Being told you’re an idiot and everything you’ve learned is wrong in front of others is “yikes”
deleted by creator
“The earth is flat”. “Ok, cool. Didn’t mean anything by it.”
A bit hyperbolic, but that is how i imagine it sounds to older people. Perspective goes both ways.
deleted by creator
The fact that you’re getting downvoted for essentially saying “just be a respectful, reasonable, and decent human being” is pretty bizarre. Like, can we just have some empathy and patience for each other?
deleted by creator
It’s just as much not a problem for them to be offended by it as it is for you to choose your words better. Knowing that you made a choice to offend so yeah, you’re the jerk. You’re honestly making a lot more of it if you went all this distance to think you’re the one hard done by just cuz you refuse to memorize some words. That’s snowflake thinking.
Only bad actors looking for the drama go for the path of most resistance.
Changing the language you intuitively use is hard
deleted by creator
There are harder things in life that are actually worth complaining about. Growing your brain isn’t one of them.
L + ratio + 5 days too late for me to care
I definitely use “guy” as gender neutral. I used to refer to women as “dude” as well, but it was a bit controversial so I stopped
“Ladydudes” is the way to go.
Dudes and Dudettes
Ya’ll
If you must use a redneckism then at least put the apostrophe in the right place.
apostrophes are for stupid libs
/s
| ; , | ,’ '_
I’m a dude. He’s a dude. She’s a dude. We’re all dudes!
