“If someone is going to try and blackmail me with advertising? Blackmail me with money? Go fuck yourself. Go fuck yourself. Is that clear? Hey Bob, if you’re in the audience. That’s how I feel, don’t advertise.”
- Elon, 2023
I think this should be posted as a comment to every article about this.
It’s right there in the 4th paragraph of the article itself.
You mean you actually read the article? Blasphemy!
Somebody has to do the dirty work.
What’s it say? Go find yourself? Go Fill yourself? IDK is this some game you Americans have where you have to guess the word, because the amount of pearl clutching is just too insane in America?
Ah yes that’s the amazing freedom of speech Americans are so proud of, except they don’t actually have it, they are just indoctrinated to think so.
My god American regulation is so idiotic sometimes!!!
There’s no regulation, we can and do say fuck without any problem. Some people prefer not to swear either for personal, social, or religious reasons. They chose to self censor not because they had to but because they wanted to. You’re reading an awful fucking lot into a random ass image some anonymous user posted in a comment.
Can confirm, am American and try to avoid swearing, not because there are penalties (friends, coworkers, etc swear all the time), but because I don’t like swearing. I find it makes me an angrier person, so I just don’t do it.
If you want to swear, go for it, it really won’t offend me. But I won’t swear in return. Different strokes for different folks.
There’s so goddamn much to swear about in these fucking times we live in that I really respect anyone who can still hold their shit together enough not to.
Or if you’re someone who uses speech to text on your phone. Nearly every system that I’ve ever used asterisks out everything after the first letter. It can be a lot of extra effort to go back and fill the fucks in. But if there’s one fucking thing worth doing fucking right. Fucking filling out those fat fucking fucks is fucking it. It’s one of the most fucking versatile words on the planet. It can be a fucking adjective, one of the most versatile verbs no matter what fucked up tense you choose, and even a motherfucking noun.
we can and do say fuck without any problem.
Not on public TV you can’t. Beep beep beep Fucking idiots.
You can, most networks just decide not to. Broadcast TV (which hasn’t really existed for I think more than a decade now) had restrictions about swearing (and other content) enforced by the FCC as it used a public good (RF bands). Cable TV (and now streaming services) are and pretty much have always been unregulated.
TV Networks, being companies trying to make money, opt to self censor so as to appeal to the largest number of viewers, but that isn’t anything to do with the government, it’s 100% a business decision.
https://www.tvguide.com/news/features/tv-censorship-nudity-profanity/
swear words that are still taboo on broadcast TV to this day – ended up causing the highest court to rule that the Federal Communications Commission had the authority to regulate what viewers see on broadcast media.
Yeah that entire article basically agreed with everything I said. Technically broadcast TV does have some limitations enforced by the FCC (because it uses radio to transmit) even to this day, but broadcast TV is basically dead. I actually thought they had shut those stations down a few years ago, but I guess they’re still around. Regardless there are absolutely no government regulations that control what’s shown on cable and streaming services. 100% of censorship that occurs there is a business decision by the TV Networks and has absolutely nothing to do with the government.
My god American regulation is so idiotic sometimes!!!
Dude, some person made that meme, and that person chose to use asterisks. It’s no more complicated than that.
What’s it say? Go find yourself? Go Fill yourself? IDK is this some game you Americans have where you have to guess the word
Apparently our ability to figure out a word from context is pretty much higher than yours though.
What are you talking about? There is no law or regulation requiring that text to be censored. They did it because they wanted to.
You think that’s bad, get this. In most US states (47), public school students are required by law to recite the Pledge of Allegiance to the flag of the United States once per school day, though…for most of those states…students may opt themselves out.
However, in four states (Texas, Florida, Pennsylvania, and Utah), students may not opt themselves out. The school must receive a written statement from a parent or guardian in order to be exempt.
I have taught in Texas public schools since 2005, and I brought this up with an attorney for the teacher organization I joined (not a union as Texas bans collective bargaining for state employees, so our dues are really not much more than lawsuit insurance). He told me that, in the eyes of the state courts, children under the age of eighteen not being yet adults do not enjoy the same right to freedom of speech that adults do. Hence, in the eyes of the courts, a school district would be within their rights to fire a teacher who does not do their part to ensure all students under their purview recite the Pledge during the time it is spoken over the school’s PA system (and the Pledge to the Texas state flag, also mandatory), 1st Amendment be damned.
Thankfully, I got a gig teaching in Oregon next year, so I am heading northwest (through the also miserable states of Utah and Idaho unfortunately) and never looking back.
Ah Texas, where children can’t make decisions or be held accountable in any way, unless they’re brown skinned and can be accused of a crime, then they must he tried as adults and sentenced to life as an imprisoned slave.
You don’t want to play this game with me, son. Whatever you hurl at me about Oregon, I’ll lob back at you something twice as bad about Texas.
I get that Oregon has its hard right people. Hell, most states do. But at least my trans kids gender identity is protected by state law, and my having a trans kid won’t result in me being on the governor’s fucking hit list.
You’re reading into things way too much here, man.
“For the children “ …. Like none of them have ever heard bad words…. They must be protected at all cost.
Like a person who likes to grab them by the pussy…
Yes and they may actually reelect that criminal traitor malignant narcissist SOB! .
That’s the the country that refuses to regulate guns despite massive amounts of school shootings, but won’t allow words to be written or said because that is apparently more harmful than bullets!!!It’s absolute insanity.
I’m not the one who
toldcorrected you earlier, but ket me reiterate…You are incorrect in your assumption that our “country,” government, etc. censors our speech. Some people choose to self-censor and the government has nothing to do with that.
Also, you seem confused about what free speech (see: first amendment) actually means. This XKCD might help explain it to you.
The government does actually censor broadcast television and radio. I can’t remember why they’re allowed to.
Swear words? Boobs? Hell nah
Someone getting shot ten times? PG-13
I think it’s hilarious that there are swear budgets for various ratings. I’m pretty sure adults can tell whether a movie is intended for kids or not, and they’re the most sensitive to foul language.
I personally choose to not swear, but I watch and listen to plenty of content with vulgar language of all varieties, it really doesn’t bother me, so I don’t see why it’s so taboo in movie ratings…
Say stupid things, people treat you like you’re stupid, stupidly cry about how freedom of speech should prevent people from treating you like the idiot you are.
Fuck you, Jack.
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Musk sheepishly suggested that he didn’t mean “advertisers as a whole.”
“Advertisers have a right to appear next to content that they find compatible with their brands,” he told ad giant WPP CEO Mark Read during an interview on Wednesday. “What is not cool is insisting that there can be no content that they disagree with on the platform.”
How is that “not cool?” I don’t understand how he can possibly object to a company spending their advertising dollars wherever they damn well choose to. He repeatedly makes it clear that he feels entitled to their budgets. There is zero basis for that. I truly cannot fathom how he can be so dense about this.
He can object because he’s decided that’s what is right. Literally nothing else matters.
The piece of shit that used to own my company is like this. His decision is correct and gospel, and if you don’t agree or if it’s provably false you are wrong. And it’s your fault you are wrong, because he has decided it to be correct.
Right but the bubble of rightness you speak of is usually only assumed to include the company staff. Really powerful CEOs have their board inside the bubble too, or even public investors. But Elon thinks the customers work for him too. That’s really beyond the pale.
No argument here. Just highlighting the absolutely insane mindset of business owners/CEOs at all scales.
Wowow! That was so long ago! Literally dozens of weeks ago! I’m sure this full-blown narcissist has seen the error of his ways and changed his mind. Surely.
Calling out Bob Iger in particular was the cherry on top.
Massive hubris.
This is the most upvotes I’ve seen on a Lemmy post so far… Granted, I’ve only been here a couple days, but still!
“I do shoot myself in the foot from time to time, but at least you know it is genuine, not from the PR department,” he admitted.
He’s been brainwashed by his fans if he thinks that somehow makes it better.
Like, authenticy is good for good things, but it makes shitty things even shittier. It’s not a value that’s always good in every context. And the worst thing he could be doing is doubling down on his opinions and policy.
If he left the company is the only way this would help, he wouldn’t even be a fall guy because most of this is entirely his fault
Reminds me of the people who say things like “I say it like it is, and most people don’t like it”…not knowing that the reason they don’t have many friends is because they don’t have a filter and don’t think they need one, lol
But this looks like Elon Musk admitting that he’s genuinely an idiot, lol
Yeah I robbed that gas station but at least some crime boss didn’t make me do it. It was genuine so you should forgive me
Idk, I’d prefer if CEOs were more transparent and why mistakes happened instead of the generic PR nonsense of: “We messed up, and we’re sorry. We’re taking time to review what happened to make sure it never happens again.” That kind of statement only matters if there’s some way for the public to know what happened and verify that it actually won’t happen again.
That’s not what we’re getting from Elon, so screw him, but I just figured I’d point out that this particular broken clock could say something close to what we probably all want.
“Shoot oneself in the foot” is a really charitable description of “inviting all the worst Nazis back on to social media and removing fact checking.”
Authenticity only works when you don’t jump ships and stay on point. Not for billionaires, tho.
- Tells customers to go fuck themselves
- They leave
- They stop paying for advertisement
- Twitter/X makes no money from advertisement
Elon:
Don’t forget his total lack of actual ‘prowess’ in running Twitter.
- changing the name to X
- Firing employees
- employees severance issues
- Reneging on free speech promises
- Using hidden accounts
- Unbanning of people who should be banned
- Killing API access
- Forcing login to view tweets
- add your fave Twitter dumpster fire item here
You forgot “Tells advertisers to go fuck themselves”
Can’t remember the last time I was on Twitter. Turns out I don’t need it. Turns out I’m just a little happier without it.
I was trying to find active users since he took over. But the only numbers I can find are numbers provided by Musk, who is a well known liar.
I know Lemmy and Mastodon are niche communities, and that people put up with a lot of garbage from Big Tech, but I have to believe that a lot of users have left Twitter, or least that usage is down. I also assume bots are way up, because Musk wants his numbers to be up regardless of the source (save for people with an opposing opinion).
Hopefully Musk’s shitty little empire crumbles…soon.
I deleted my account and my stress level is way down.
Twitter was never good, but it’s a cesspool of scum and villainy.
I also left it for the most part (only there to squat my user handle - I have some enemies), and I’m better without it. Even before the Muskrat overtake, its algorithm often bought the worst out of me, and I had to realize that wasn’t me. After that, it became worse than the forums from the late 2000’s that were overtaken by a few moderators to turn them into “free speech zone”, except they liked to harass people for having “dumb opinions”, one of which was not liking racism, and those admins also liked to claim PoC robbing whites are a “race motivated crime”.
I like the smaller communities of the Fediverse, I even started to remember usernames and avatars here on lemmy (and before that, kbin) without having a follow function I know of. When I was on Reddit, I felt massively alienated, didn’t know anyone there really, and the place got more and more dominated by a select few toxic individuals.
"I do shoot myself in the foot from time to time, but at least you know it is genuine, not from the PR department”
Yeah we know. He’s genuinely a white supremacist, misogynist, queerphobe piece of shit. A PR department doesn’t give a fuck about any of that, but at least they’d be savvy enough to pretend like they give a damn in order to make money.
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I think you’re getting downvoted because everyone assumes that you’re being a pedant, not because you asked a question.
Nah, they’re definitely a troll.
Could be.
Mods felt the need to remove their posts, but they were either a troll/bad faith actor or an idiot.
I’ve lost the plot. I’m not sure whose posts were removed.
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I think it was the phrasing. The comment you responded to didn’t say that Musk had said either of the things you asked about. If you’ve been paying attention to the news about the complaints coming out of his companies its very clear that he is those things. It seems that your question is intended to refute the contents of the comment by being pedantic about whether Musk had actually said those things.
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It just sounded a little bit like you were jumping to his defense. I gave you the benefit of the doubt and explained it but I think that’s what happened. There are a LOT of pedants on Lemmy who will argue about whether someone said a specific word of phrase rather than addressing the underlying and obvious truth that someone is a wretched asshole (like Elon Musk.))
asking questions
Yeah thanks there Tucker Carlson.
On twitter.com presumably
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He made “cis” a slur on Twitter because it upsets him that his ex who left him is trans, and he hates trans people. He’s had plenty of tweets and posts complaining about pronouns, trans people in general, and so on.
I can’t speak to the misogyny (but I’m sure it’s there), but instead if arguing with people about you “jUsT aSkInG a QuEsTiOn” you could just Google “Elon Musk queerphobic tweets” and Google will supply plenty.
I did, and the first two results were articles from former Twitter/X employees claiming there were homophobic and anti-semitic attacks on the platform after Musk took over. So yeah… Not sure what you want anyone here to do for you that you can’t do yourself via a Google search, you clearly know how to type, and the phrase I suggested is less characters than all your comments combined.
Edit: And then after you did some googling and found the answers, you could edit your comment to say, “Wow, hey guys, I was wrong, he really is misogynistic queerphobic piece of shit,” and be done with it, instead of doubling down like a troll.
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I’m not really interested in your bullshit anymore. There are tweets, from him. There are articles about him quoting tweets he’s used highlighting everything everyone here us telling you. Fucking happy? Can you fucking comprehend now? They’re his words, from his official verified X account.
“FYI I specifically asked for” GO FUCK YOURSELF. I specifically told you to fucking use your fucking brain and Google all of this, but you refuse, because you’re a fucking troll just like Musk, whose cock you have so far down your throat it’s tickling your taint.
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THERE IT IS EVERYONE!!! Troll can’t be happy unless they’re moving the goal posts, now they need thorough context for each and every word Musk has ever said!!
To answer your question, despite you not asking it in good faith and then following it up with two uses of the R-slur: A female journalist raised legitimate criticism of Musk, and he completely disregarded everything she had to say. That’s childish, and misogynist, since I’m sure if Daddy Trump or Papa Putin weighed criticism on him, he wouldn’t have dismissed it.
So I answered your fucking question and gave you “sPeCiFicAlLy” what you asked for, so you’re fucking welcome, troll, not that you know how to say “thank you.”
And reported for use of the R-slur.
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Ok Bud, gold medal mental gymnastics lol
That’s not the sexist part, you have to read more. One Tweet can’t prove anything, but several Tweets are a clear pattern of behavior. Quoting the first sentence betrays your disinterest.
Yes, you’re getting downvoted for asking a stupid question. Do you think people announce “I am a queerphobe and a misogynst”? Read between the fucking lines!
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It’s actually worse than you being incapable of reading between the lines. When presented with evidence, you denied it rather than thanking the person who provided it. So you were asking stupid questions to set up a bad faith argument. Congratulations on being an Elon dick sucker and douchbag.
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Yes, it’s called JAQ’ing off or Sealioning and is how people try to push an idea while still being able to say “oh no not me I’m just curious.”
If you were actually curious you’d google it, or been aware of his descent over the last 5 years.
Someone who is not misogynistic doesn’t usually offer to pay for sex with someone who isn’t a sex worker. That he offered to pay for said sex with a horse makes it extra damning, but that could be my personal bias.
I Always thought he just wanted to flush xitter, it never occurred to me that he was actually trying to succeed.
I think he was trying to dump Tesla stock without making it look like he didn’t have faith in the company. His plan was always to say he was buying it. sell a bunch of Tesla stock. Back out of the Twitter deal and walk away with a ton of cash.
He tried to get out of it based on a bunch of bullshit and then was surprised when a judge actually forced him to buy Twitter.
aw, he may be a genocide loving nazi, but at least its from the heart. won’t someone give him some money?
What do you mean ? (sources)
Google “Elon Musk Nazi”, and/or “Elon Musk genocide”
Yes very sourcy
I’m not the one who made the claim, just giving the most basic of research advice
Google “any name Nazi” and you’ll get results. The question was what are you referring to.
Also, I can’t believe this community would down vote anyone for asking for sources, that’s disgusting. I’m disappointed Lemmy.
If you’re so disgusted and disappointed, why don’t you try to find a different community?
It’s hard to feel disappointed about something you don’t really care about. That is to say, the reason I feel disappointed is because I like this community and I want it to be a place for civil discourse. Conversely, I’ve given up on Reddit, so nothing that happens there can really disappoint me any more, I no longer care about it.
I’m not going to make a fuss about something that doesn’t impact me, but I will make a fuss about something I believe in, like Lemmy.
Exactly. Having sources is the minimal starting point to make an opinion. That’s not because this community is supposed safe that I could trust any user information
“If you’re trying to reach senior decision makers, if you want to reach the most influential people in the world,” Musk told Read, “the X platform is by far the best.”
Does someone want to break it to him that he’s one of about 4 executives of a fortune 500 who spends any time on Twitter? The rest have PR people who might make a couple posts a month for them, but they sure as shit aren’t wasting any time on it arguing with idiots and bots. They’re busy flying around on private jets or playing golf when they aren’t spending their 30 minutes a month working.
I could believe all the psychopaths still use shitter. Anyone I see that links to it is either a financial news organization or the scum they cover.
Well, well, well if it isn’t the consequences of my own actions.
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‘Begs’ sounds like a strong word comparing to the actual content of the article
Click bait headlines? Never!
I can’t find the exact quote right now, but I saw in another article he said something like, “If they don’t pay for advertisements, X will be gone. How sad!”
It seems Musk thinks he’s tending another Mona Lisa or some other world cultural artifact that society would hate to lose. Not some website that’s fairly easily recreated by, say, a bunch of hobbyists.
I wonder why nobody wants to set up their billboards on a burning heap of shit…
The majority of the ads I get on Twitter now are deepfaked Elon shilling coins — I don’t know how any advertiser (or user) could have any faith in that platform anymore.
Is he trying to put on a good appearance for the advertisers? I thought it was strange that he didn’t have a transphobic streak of Twitter interactions this June. Very out of character.
Maybe that big bonus package that the board approved stipulated that he must not, quote “say anything stupid” for a little while.
