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Cake day: June 12th, 2023

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  • On the other hand, one can understand why Google doesn’t want to continue to pour resources into an ancient platform just to keep it on life support.

    Bullshit. “Pour” my ass. Issue a legacy build of the app that controls them and walk away. What horseshit. This is shameful. The only reason it won’t blow up into a huge debacle is that these products targeted wealthy early-adopters in the first place and those folks can afford to upgrade, and most probably already have.














  • We need solutions that look like Lemmy in the public space to _decentralize_ power so we don’t run into this type of problem. I don’t think there’s a magical structure that fixes everything, and I don’t even necessarily think that capitalism has to be the dominant economic system in play, I just think we need to come up with ideas on how to reduce the power of those at the top.

    It’s worth reminding ourselves that this is exactly what we are at Lemmy to do. Where capitalism produced Reddit, communitarianism produced Lemmy. The best effort of both systems is now live and the two are competing head to head. We win when Lemmy is the superior option for enough people that we actually start bleeding Reddit out.


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    In short, people tend to be motivated by profit

    Only in a society that commodifies your existence and success based on the wealth you generate/hold Unless we’re changing the definition of profit to status

    This is what I’m rebutting. So you see, it’s not shifting the goalposts at all. It’s staying on the topic of this comment chain. You trying to claim that humans have been majority peaceable is in fact drifting from the topic. If we’ve been majority peaceable but with plenty of profit oriented violence, that’s all that’s relevant.

    The debate is whether profit appears with the advent of modern capitalism. I said people have been raiding each other for profit since the beginning of time. You failed to say anything that invalidates this.


  • Yay thank you for saying something instead of empty judgments. I think most of what you had to say is actually beside the point at issue, and to show how I’ll unpack this segment, which has a lot to say about this topic and what I am and am not saying.

    every member of the group had access to the same nutrition and that evidence of violent skeletal trauma is significantly less prevalent than after the advent of agriculture.

    Let’s go piece by piece.

    every member of the group

    Raiding is an inter group behavior not an intra group behavior so if this was meant to say “look humans were egalitarian they didn’t raid” it doesn’t say this at all.

    evidence of violent skeletal trauma is significantly less prevalent than after the advent of agriculture

    I believe this very much supports my point that violent raiding was a way of life. You said: there’s more violence after agriculture. Well, agriculture was the first time that anyone had valuable assets collected in one place: at harvest time. Agriculture freed up specialists to create items of value. More to take.

    Of course hunter gatherers exhibit less raiding: first of all dramatically fewer people are supportable without agriculture so there were simply fewer groups available to raid. And hunter gatherers live largely hand to mouth so there is no stockpile to plunder.

    Naturally as soon as there is something to raid, you see the evidence of that.

    So what about anything you said do you think contradicts the claim that humans have commonly raided one another for spoils throughout history? Are you going to tell me that slavery wasn’t a thing next?

    I think I need you to come to a point instead of just flashing your credentials. You’ve offered a lot of facts from the record but these must be interpreted. It’s that interpretation that makes you an archaeologist, not the shovel.

    My claim is that raiding other humans and taking their things was common, because humans want something for nothing and will exploit each other to get it - long before capitalism and conspicuous consumption made it fashionable. I would also offer you the bear that eats the honeycomb, the snake that eats the eggs. A cow mows down grass because it gains more energy by doing so than it spends: ergo profit. Everything is about profit and most of it is savage taking.

    Someone above wanted to claim that profit orientation is a modern aberration driven by capitalism’s status driven pressure cooker and that’s just garbage.