Some Tesla engineers secretly started designing a Cybertruck alternative because they ‘hated’ it::“They were like, ‘You can’t be serious.’ They didn’t want to have anything to do with it,” Franz von Holzhausen said, according to Walter Isaacson.
Cyber truck looks absolutely shit. The only thing it had going for itself was that it would have been the very first fully electric pick up truck - when it was first announced.
After more than 5 years Tesla is nowhere close to mass producing the ugly while Ford stole the thunder with announcing and launching the F150 Lightning. If I was in market for an EV pick up, I’d no longer consider Tesla cyber truck, let alone the Fascist ElMo’s shenanigans.
Good luck getting a base model F150 at a decent price. I tried earlier this year and only 3 dealers East of the Mississippi had the base model and they all wanted $30,000 OVER MSRP. Ford can lick my butt for not making enough base models and trying to push their XLT and platinums starting at $75k. I need a truck to work in not have it open and close the lift gate for me.
At this point I’ll take a shit looking truck at a decent price over whatever the duck Ford and their dealers thought was a good idea with producing so little of the base model, not to mention base model with extended range batteries were ONLY available to fleet purchasers.
Two years ago I was going to but my first ford, my first truck, AND my first electric because it was the same car. On paper the F150 Lightning seems like the most practical family car ever made. Dealer markup and low volume completely killed it. Ford should eliminate dealerships and sell direct with fixed pricing.
It would be great if they just made more base models. They’re “sold out” for this year already, but you still can order the luxury trims for trucks that haven’t been made yet. I’m not convinced that Ford actually wants to sell any base models.
I walked away and bought a Bolt EUV instead.
You are actually allowed to buy directly from the manufacturer. Contact the Ford plant. They’ll sell it to you at MSRP
Not the pro model (base model). You can order direct for all other trims though
It’s almost like lithium supply chains are absolutely fucked, and EVs would get zero traction without government subsidies.
Feels good though. Saving the world. (/S)
We actually just discovered the largest deposit of lithium on earth in Nevada, so those should get unfucked in the next couple years.
Kansas has declared all their children available for the mines.
The “micron precision” memo that leaked tells me they’re nowhere close to mass production. At my old job, tolerances were pretty much set when we finished a design for a large chemical unit operation – which was typically built within two years. I would expect mass production of something like a car to not to take too much longer.
I see what you did there, stealing thunder with the Lightning.
And yes, Ford’s approach is smart, cheaper, and more utilitarian. Besides, it doesn’t stand out like a smashed thumb in a splint.
Rivian also has some decent designs. I know that Ford has a stake in the company, but it’s only holding 12%, so I don’t know that they have much say in what goes on over there.
It hasn’t even been 4 years
Gotta cut everyone some slack when estimating time since the pandemic. 3 years was 10 years ago.
I’m 46. As far as I’m concerned, the 90s was last week.
Same, and my music taste still reflects that :(
28 – the 2010s feel like just a year or two ago, and my music taste reflects that too :(
You’re right on that one, the struggle is real. Comes up in conversation pretty often.
Any day now, the cyber truck will come whizzing down the hyperloop with its sub 10 micron build tolerance and tornado proof glass, fully autonomously driving of course. Any day now.
With its flat body panels flapping in the wind.
I really want to see one after it’s hit by a heavy hail storm.
hit by a heavy hail storm.
…or even a champagne bottle!
Obviously, it will have front-mounted flamethrowers.
Just after the Tesla semi!
It looks like a shitty futuristic movie prop
Not just shitty, but extremely cheap.
It’s looks like a little kid was drawing a house and halfway said, fuck it, it’s a car and put wheels on it.
The OG cybertruck reminds me of Lara Croft in the OG Tomb Raider.
If you know you know, looks like a shitty prototype.
There’s no way in hell this shit doesn’t completely flop, right? Like, who in their right mind would buy this garbage aside from techbros riding Elon’s pole?
I know someone who preordered this atrocity immediately. He of course drives a Tesla already and was convinced it was fully self-driving capable (3 years ago! LOL).
Some people really embrace Musk’s reality distortion field. Other co-workers just made fun of him and asked him if he was going to put his current Tesla S on his Cybertruck’s truckbed to max out his Tesla fanboyism.
There’s a ton of goobers that want it, but very few are actually going to be able to afford it. It’s going to be 80k plus
If it weren’t for Musk standing to make a profit from it and Tesla’s history of questionable design decisions and quality issues, I’d potentially be interested in one. I like how it looks (although my aesthetic choices are certainly not everyone’s cup of tea,) and the specs are pretty impressive if they manage to deliver on them.
There’s a lot of hunger out there for more EV trucks, musk fanboys will gobble up anything he is involved in, and lots of people make questionable vehicle purchases, I think it will sadly sell just fine.
I predict it will flop harder than the Segway.
Wait, should I stop expecting the Segway to finally become the next big thing??
Here’s to hoping Musk tries some extreme cyber trucking on a very high and dangerous cliff somewhere too.
wait it’s still in process, not out yet? How long is the development during, for this horror?
There are plenty of people not in their right minds who have the money (or access to financing) and questionable taste to go buy the thing as soon as it’s available.
It will be a moderate success, I suspect. Owing more to the massive demand for electric vehicles than the cyber truck’s particular design.
No chance it will outsell the f150 lightning, except possibly if Ford can’t build enough to meet demand.
I don’t like Elon and I don’t like trucks but I like the cybertruck design 🙂 it’s just refreshingly new design on the road
I thought he was always the only engineer tho. This implies he does not do his own designs. Very sus. /s
musk is not an engineer
It was supposed to be sarcasm but I guess it didn’t translate well via text. I’ll add the /s, sorry :)
(I am an engineer, so this lie by him has always irked me)
Engineer =/= designer
He’s not the designer, either, that’s the sad part… He just chose between designs others created.
He’s a designer the way Nigel Tuffnel designed the Stonehenge set piece on a napkin.
are you disabled
Y’know, I wanted one until I learned anything about Tesla as a company or about Elon, and then I decided it’s vaporware and will probably never be delivered for reasons that are stupid. Looking from the outside but with experience shipping big software releases, this smells a lot like what you get when you think of QC not as an engineering discipline, but as a cost to be minimized.
So both the engineers and everyone in the comments is just saying they hate/like the look of it? That’s the last important part. As I understand it, the Cybertruck is never going to be allowed to the roads in Europe because of how unsafe it is. That’s what people should be interested in. Looks can be pleasing to some and ugly to others and that’s ok.
I’ve been wondering about its crumple zones. So… does it not have any ?
the bodies of children it’s software won’t detect will have plenty of crumple zones, don’t see what’s the issue
The other car is the crumple zone.
I wonder how much the other car’s crumple zone affects the performance of your own. I wouldn’t be surprised if one car not having one would degrade the performance of the one that does.
In which case, these cars actually become a public safety risk.
the thing is a giant slab of angled metal, when it crashes into things my guess is the hood will slide backwards and “dissect” entire people.
That’s a threat with most vehicles and is easily engineered for. Aside from visibility problems, we can’t know what real safety issues it might have until we get crash test data.
How unsafe is it? I’ve not seen any crash test results.
Afaik they haven’t done any crash testing yet, or haven’t released the results. The EU tends not to allow cars with sharp, angular front ends. Iirc that’s why the latest Camaro can’t be sold in swathes of Europe.
Why are people so convinced that the Cybertruck won’t be safe? Of all the bad things we can say about Tesla, it’s a fact that they’re quite safe vehicles. I see no reason why the company would suddenly build a vehicle that is so unsafe it cannot be sold in Europe. Some comments in this thread say it doesn’t have any crumple zones. How strong do you think 3mm stainless steel is? The strength of every vehicle comes from its frame, not from its body panels. Same thing with the Cybertruck.
Drive one from California to Texas and see where the body panels pop off.
Barstow.
I am still very confused why it’s not called the X Truck or CyberX TruX or something stupid containing the letter X
He already has the Tesla Model X. Probably why.
The Tesla models are S, 3, X and Y. Because Musk is a child. He’s such a child that he tried to get the 3 to be Model E, but Ford owned the trademark.
He is also such a child that he had to give his daughter Exa Dark the nickname Y, because he forgot he named his other son X.
He is also a douchebag. Fucking dude has
710 kids claims to spend half the week with all of them. Claims he works over 100 hours a week and somehow also is the best person to be CEO of four companies… want proof CEOs don’t really do much work. Here it is.12 kids.
Whoa, hold on. Who are the other 2? I am now counting up to 10: X, Y, Tau, Griffin, Vivian, Damian, Saxon, Kai, Azure and Strider.
Who am I missing? Are you sure your not thinking of Nick Cannon? Lol
Looks like we were both off: https://pagesix.com/article/elon-musk-children/
So it’s 10 living kids + a SIDS death, which is tragic altho I struggle to feel any pain for Musk.
Makes me wonder if there’s a psychological link between losing his first and having a breeding fetish. My money says no because he’s a sociopath and his father clearly does the same, if not worse, shit. Still an interesting idea to wonder about.
Am I the only person besides Elon who likes the cybertruck? I hate agreeing with that idiot on anything, but I think the cybertruck looks cool.
I thought the concept looked cool, but the one driving around now looks absolutely fucking terrible imo.
It’s intentionally designed to look polarizing. You’re not gonna find a lot of people sitting on the fence on this one and since it looks so different from every other car on the market there’s gonna be a lot of people who aren’t into the change. But yeah I hate it.
Yes. It looks stupid.
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It’s this. I want a Tron themed EV and I want it to not look stupid driving around suburbia.
And I’m afraid that those two things are mutually exclusive. Part of the cyberpunk aesthetic is the lack of soccer moms and hotdog stands.
It looks like a cheap, “futuristic” car that would be in a vintage sci-fi movie.
I mean, there is nothing else on the road that looks like it for better or worse
I think it looks okay but it’s just way too big
Yep.
I like it, but honestly, the bigger reason I want it is the supposed 14k+ tow capacity.
If it doesn’t actually achieve that, which I’m definitely dubious it will, it’s a nonstarter for me.
I’d expect that to arrive at the same time as the unbreakable glass and the full self driving.
I think it’s mostly that the roof comes to a point. If it had a flat roof it’d look a lot better.
I’m indifferent to it, but the amount of people who give a shit is hilarious to me. If it goes 500+ miles, requires no paint and is cheaper than other electric trucks, it’s a win in my book. So weird how people use vehicles as an extension of who they are. It’s a fucking truck. Have you seen the competition? Tundras, F150, Sierra, and Silverado all look like ass.
They do all look like utter shit. But the cybertruck looks like single-digit iq shit, the other ones are at least closer to the center of the bell curve, even if they have tribal tattoos, goatees, and listen to the home depot guitar riff on repeat.
If it goes 500+ miles, requires no paint and is cheaper than other electric trucks, it’s a win in my book
I also would think it’s a win if it flies, turned water into wine, and had an automatic blowjob machine installed, which is about as likely to be true as the rest of this shit.
I love it too. It’s completely ridiculous and ugly in a way that appeals to me.
Hasn’t Tesla’s design language always been about not rocking the boat aesthetically? The model S looks nice, but except for the lack of a grille it kinda just looks like any other car. You could make an EV look pretty weird as you don’t really need an engine compartment, but it’s harder to sell someone on both an exotic drivetrain and an exotic appearance. This think looks like it fell out of blade runner…
It also doesn’t look very aerodynamic. I have some concerns about range, especially considering that Tesla doesn’t exactly have the best record of honesty in that particular area.
I guess we’ll see how it sells. Eventually.
This thing looks like it fell out of the 1997 Blade Runner computer game if Westwood had decided to go with polygonal 3D graphics instead of pre-rendered FMV and voxel 3D.
This think looks like it fell out of blade runner…
The entire reason I was ever potentially interested in the cybertruck was how fuckin weird it looks.
Specifically this take from another poster
This thing looks like it fell out of the 1997 Blade Runner computer game if Westwood had decided to go with polygonal 3D graphics
I love that shit.
It looks weird but no worse than any other truck. Anyone that tells you an F150 is aesthetically pleasing is full of shit.
There’s a lot to hate. It’s insanely ugly. It’s like a PT Cruiser and a Nissan Cube mated and all the worst car genes went right into the CybeR TruCk.
Slightly off-topic, but do you know what I hated the most about the Nissan Cube? IT WASN’T A FUCKING CUBE!
What was weird is that the rear dome lights had consenteic waves radiating from it like the headliner was water and the light was dropped into it.
WTF? Why?
The whole car has a Northern California or Colorado yoga instructor vibe.
If that was their target demo, they nailed it.
Atleast make it look like the classic brick aka the Cherokee XJ sport.
Fine, then call it the Nissan Brick. Because it’s not a cube!
What im saying is that the Jeep Cherokee XJ Sport is closer to a cube than the Nissan cube.
Oh, gotcha.
Not to mention that it’s an absolute hazard to pedestrians and cyclists. I hope that if this thing gets released, the EU just straight up bans it from the roads.
This thing, while not as body-crushing as a twice-raised SUV, will still fuck you up acting like a blunt knife.
Not to mention crumple zones
Maybe the truck should get a chance to throw a steel ball at Elon’s face.
