The only thing disgusting here is that you assume you’ve got a moral high ground and superiority over these Arab, Muslim, and Palestinian community leaders. I trust their opinion.

I’m tired of champagne socialists pretending to be all for progressive causes and then they act like they know better than us brown people and are our wiser saviors. As a brown person, that makes you no better than a Republican in my eyes. Stop using us as a cudgel and patronizing us instead of listening to us. Strip away your imperialist mindset and listen to AAPI people to try and win for once.

No I think it just proves this is a shit product

Do we know if those 2800+ injured are mostly militants, or mostly civilian?

Easy loophole. Tell Eastern European countries they can do whatever the hell they want. I think several have a score to settle with Russia.

But seriously if Putin would prefer to not have deep strikes into Russia, then maybe we could meet him halfway – send a NATO coalition to Ukraine and steamroll Russia out. Including from Crimea.

There is an easy answer to this, but it’s not being pursued by AI companies because it’ll make them less money, albeit totally ethically.

Make all LLM models free to use, regardless of sophistication, and be collaborative with sharing the algorithms. They don’t have to be open to everyone, but they can look at requests and grant them on merit without charging for it.

So how do they make money? How goes Google search make money? Advertisements. If you have a good, free product, advertisement space will follow. If it’s impossible to make an AI product while also properly compensating people for training material, then don’t make it a sold product. Use copyright training material freely to offer a free product with no premiums.

Copyright is a lesser evil compared to taking human labor and creativity for free to sell a product.

That’s a slippery slope fallacy. We can compensate the person with direct ownership without going through a chain of causality. We already do this when we buy goods and services.

I think the key thing in what you’re saying about AI is “fully open source… locally execute it on their own hardware”. Because if that’s the case, I actually don’t have any issues with how it uses IP or copyright. If it’s an open source and free to use model without any strings attached, I’m all for it using copyrighted material and ignoring IP restrictions.

My issue is with how OpenAI and other companies do it. If you’re going to sell a trained proprietary model, you don’t get to ignore copyright. That model only exists because it used the labor and creativity of other people – if the model is going to be sold, the people whose efforts went into it should get adequately compensated.

In the end, what will generative AI be – a free, open source tool, or a paid corporate product? That determines how copyrighted training material should be treated. Free and open source, it’s like a library. It’s a boon to the public. But paid and corporate, it’s just making undeserved money.

Funny enough, I think when we’re aligned on the nature and monetization of the AI model, we’re in agreement on copyright. Taking a picture of my turnips for yourself, or to create a larger creative project you sell? Sure. Taking a picture of my turnips to use in a corporation to churn out a product and charge for it? Give me my damn share.

They’re someone else’s turnips though, not yours. If you’re going to make money selling pictures of them, don’t you think the person who grew the turnips deserves a fair share of the proceeds?

Or from another perspective, if the person who grew them requests payment in return for you to take pictures of them, and you don’t want to pay it – why don’t you go find other turnips? Or grow your own?

These LLMs are an end product of capitalism – exploiting other people’s labor and creativity without paying them so you can get rich.

I can’t make money without using OpenAI’s paid products for free.

Checkmate motherfucker

Oh I don’t disagree there. I agree with pretty much everything you’ve said here actually. I was just saying that Hamas isn’t some pure hearted rebellion group. But I do think they are the lesser evil.

That isn’t Hamas though. Their leadership lives it up in Bahrain I think and has a dictatorship over Gaza. Before the pandemic there was a protest by the Palestinians and it was brutally oppressed. Hamas hasn’t held elections in a long time.

Don’t confuse Palestinian freedom fighters and civilians seeking revenge with Hamas.

I don’t think they intentionally would, but indiscriminate bombing has the tendency to create unintentional deaths for everyone involved.

Afghanistan may be among the most humanitarian deployments the US military has done. The infant mortality rate fell significantly while the US was there, and women had the freedom to go to school and participate in the economy without violent oppression.

Our mistake in Afghanistan was that we didn’t build a lasting change. We gave arms to the wrong people. We should’ve been training and arming the women to fight back and protect their democracy. Not men who were going to be fine either way.

Yeah for them to say this much is a big deal considering they like to stay out of this stuff. It’s pretty much a harsh repudiation coming from them.

“yeah… Okay :(”

This is a classic case of the differences between lawful good, lawful neutral, and neutral good.

Lawful good would feel conflicted but settle on conviction, because it was premeditated and not self defense.

Lawful neutral would convict and feel no conflict at all. The law was broken, nothing else matters.

Neutral good would not convict, because they don’t think the law adequately handles this kind of situation.

The problem is, within the legal system, neutral good is seldom an option – by definition it’s going to be some kind of lawful. And that sucks here.

And now you’ve graduated to someone who says the vast majority are idiots who can’t see the truth and don’t connect the dots.

Now you’re not only someone who’s incapable of thinking about anything other than America, you’re also a conspiracy nut.

True. It’s up to us elders though to remind them to think straight.

Why the fuck do you have to make this about the US? Are you incapable of commenting on atrocities in other countries without a US centric worldview?

It’s quite an irony, isn’t it? In trying to constantly bring up US problems, you’ve adopted a worldview where only the US matters.

“Republicans turned off by the size of Obama’s package” vibes