In response to concerns that the new r/homeautomation mod team could overlook posts with dangerous misinformation, the anonymous Redditor pointed me to the subreddit’s sidebar, which has a disclaimer about the dangers of electricity. However, the disclaimer is only visible on old Reddit. The mod doesn’t know why.
Oh Lord
To be fair, the amount of people automating their HVAC system with “a raspberry pi and a bit of python” in there with nobody batty an eye has been high long before the purge. Some people mess with everything they can without understanding any of what they’re doing.
Good. Fuck Reddit.
I love watching them crash and burn. Greedy dicks
Mods weren’t ever supposed to anybody but janitors. That isn’t in a derogatory tone. The anonymous userbase was the original value proposition of reddit. The expertise came from random nobodies. Usernames didn’t matter on reddit because nobody looked at it. It seems this is long forgotten history from a time when the internet was primarily IT nerds.
By the time mods were becoming somebodies, reddit was past its prime. Once the power structures started forming it was over. As we’re seeing now reddit is hinges on single point of failure. The expertise among the userbase has gradually left the platform long before this API stuff. A long slow process years in the making.
Internet janitors are a dirty but necessary job not unlike the real world. Somebody has to scrub toilets and pick produce. People are a-holes on the internet who need to be put in their place. Reddit has long since become too hoity-toity for that. Now mods are supposed to be experts in their field. Too high to be digital toilet scrubbers. Too scared of “muh free speech” to janitor the Greater Fuckwads anymore. So reddit is an asylum run by the inmates. Expertise can’t be assed to contribute to a dumpster.
On another note. The imgur purge has also contributed to the barren wasteland of reddit content history. So many dead posts.
But you can’t be a ‘janitor’ on a sub like r/canning without understanding canning. You can’t know who is posting unsafe information unless you know what is unsafe. That’s the problem.
Thank you for using canning as an example. This is a excellent choice because it is a situation where people think they know what they’re doing and they are just basically posting recipes for botulism. On Facebook there are the rebel canner groups and in those groups you’re not even allowed to mention the word of botulism or the mods will ban you. Because even warning somebody that something is unsafe goes against those communities standards. Canning is a prime example of where the admins have to have actual knowledge to pull off the job.
You should really read the article. At least the first bit
To be fair, the linked article used r/canning as an example, not me.
Isn’t that similar in real life? Taking care of the elderly and sick, firefighting etc. are or have very specialised ‘janitor’-like tasks that need specific knowledge.
The user base was supposed to be the main arbiter of such things.
the free speech argument doesnt really make sense as reddit was founded on being “the last bastion of free speech”
Free speech versus civility. Say what you want but don’t think you won’t get punched in the face for being an asshole. On the internet you should absolutely be able to get punched in the face. The virtual version of that is being modded. Which is apparently tantamount to human rights violations these days so mods have had to walk on eggshells. It’s no wonder the old guard have been leaving in droves.
There was never a time in the past when you wouldn’t receive a digital face punching for being an ass. As time went on people started giving up on reddit. Especially mods who cared to foster communities people wanted to use. Mods became glorified bot operators. “Automated customer service lines” as someone else said. And so the trolls have completely run amok on that platform. Usually there is no getting hold of a real human moderator. Other times they’re so checked out they themselves get trolled into banning anyone but the griefers.
really? seems to me reddit started banning more and more not even for trolling, but for posting in the “wrong” subreddits, or for using slurs whereas back then reddit had slurs all over the place highly upvoted and anyone complaining was downvoted and spammed
They became the equivalent to automated customer service lines. Nothing but bots with no humans available to address concerns. Any attempt to contact a mod generally resulted in an arrogant reply.
Waiting for the Patrick Swayze and Sam Elliot of mods to show up…
Hi there!
I want to believe!
Being a mod is pretty fun sometimes!
Have you checked out [email protected] yet?
Every couple of weeks I come back and check lemmy to see if the top post isn’t about reddit. Not yet.
I’m fine with this - many of us were on Reddit for over a decade and had to cut cold turkey when they killed the site. We’re here hoping Lemmy will replace it, so feels natural to speak of the old “shell” site.
Also, whether or not one uses reddit/twitter/Facebook, the state of social media is worth discussing, its important.
It’s one of the biggest trash fires of the century, watching petulant fuckwits tear down functionally competent institutions and replacing them with nazis, spam and sockpuppets. certainly deserves the attention it’s getting.
great job musko and spez, you idiots
Hey, one man’s narcissism is another man’s testing the effect of accelerated decay in Fortune 100 companies. Maybe their grandfathers left them a Brewster’s clause in their wills. You never know!
lol thanks for the chrotle, this was worth reading.
I’ve been off Facebook for >5 years now but I still comment on news about fb
Subscribe to different communities. Most posts I see are politics, racecars (until I blocked it) and non English communities (until I block them)
Scrolling through all posts is fine. Communities are not (outside of memes).
I did a bit to try to keep up [email protected] but it felt like I was posting to no one. Got basically no engagement. I stuck with it for a few months, because I understand the Catch 22, but it didn’t seem like it was going anywhere anytime soon.
For league, at least, Reddit is the only option. I doubt it’s the only community in that position.
I personally am not into League but still wanna branch out, if you got any other communities thats niche but interesting, reply to me
It’s not like it’s overrunning !worldnews or something. This is !reddit. You can block it.
It’s almost like we all used to use reddit like 2 months ago so are interested what’s happening with it, crazy
Hang on, sometimes a Linux sub will post something about how they hate Windows.
Look at the quality of mods they’re getting.
The r/diving subreddit got a mod who claim to be an avid diver with 21 dives across 7 oceans. And the subreddit drama link
That mod is hardcore powertripping, lol. Why do people get so puffed up for being essentially forum janitors? At least 4chan mods could take it on the chin when the community made fun of them. Reddit mods have the thinnest skin and the arbitration skills of Judge Dredd.
That user is the alt of a well-known troll. They know exactly what they’re doing.
To be fair, the content quality on Lemmy has been about the same from what I’ve seen.
Bots all over the place, low-effort quips instead of discussions bubbling up, lots and LOTS of low-quality armchairing, personal attacks and flaming instead of actual discussion…etc
It was good for a month or so during the reddit 3rd party app purge, but quickly went downhill.
My experience has been almost nothing but positive. A few snarky replies, but 99% positivity and good discourse otherwise.
I think it’s a bit of both. Content itself is pretty lacking tbh - and I say this as someone who hasn’t exactly contributed any quality content, but I have definitely enjoyed the overall community, it reminds me a lot of reddit 10 years ago tbh.
Stay out of the political subs if you want to keep it that way.
That’s just a good general tip for the internet: avoid politics and religion.
And something people have forgotten since the old days of forums: don’t feed the trolls.
That’s true of pretty much anywhere in life.
That’s a given on any forum
Yea but like Lemmy is a bunch of hobbyists running on donations. That’s not saying much for Reddit.
I haven’t had anything remotely like this when sticking to my subscribed communities.
I very specifically don’t experience this but maybe that’s because I’m using sync and have deliberately blocked bots from showing up in my feed.
God the quips became so popular and incessant it was really annoying. The comment used to be a good source of relevant information and there were some really funny people in there but now it seems to be drowned out by the same one liners or bots.
I agree with this. There’s some problems that need to be addressed. Hopefully sooner rather than later
Truthfully hexbear has a lot to do with it. Could use a fediverse purge of that level of shitposting
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The purpose of reddit is to keep people engaged while seeing ads. That’s it.
it’s odd because I find lemmy more engaging, but perhaps its because of clickbait discussions that come up on the first page.
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Upvotes and downvotes on ads are just cosmetic, they don’t do anything.
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It hurts their feelings, sometimes that’s enough
Anything but. They’ll be using that feedback to profile you, to better target ads at people like you. It’s like Facebook’s “I want to see less ads like this”. It’s to give an appearance of control. But really it implicitly means “show me more of what I didn’t reject”. Even if you’re there anonymously they’ll be associating any interaction you make with the ad with the subs you visit, the types of comment you make etc
100% correct. It’s a powerful illusion because back in the day it was a real site with real people on it. It’s taking some folks a long time to pick up on this.
There is almost no real content on there. If it’s not a bot / AI, it’s some shill with an agenda. It’s all about the ads and clicks.
I think I’ve seen this effect. Felt a bit smug when I saw a post of r/linux talking about how the quality of the posts was so poor after the “reddit migration”.
I’ve noticed it too that the quality of posts in certain subreddits I cared about just felt a lot more ‘empty’. Which is both good and bad. Good cause Reddit got what they deserved and people stuck to their morals by dispersing to more federated communities across the web; but I also feel a tad sad that the subreddit championing a vision I want to see that took a long time to get there is now gonna leave a way pooer impression on anyone looking to join.
But eh, I’m not sure many if any people’s mind on trying out Linux were decided due to a reddit post before. ( Feel free to tell me otherwise if I am wrong on feeling. )
It’s a real shame that communities like that couldn’t more easily uproot and move en masse to a new instance on Lemmy or similar.
Any users that cared probably moved on too quickly for something like that to take shape.
it’s ok.
spez said revenue isn’t affected, so he got what he wanted. he doesn’t give that much of a shit let me tell you
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Probably the best written article I’ve read on this subject. All concerning things in the article that Reddit absolutely doesn’t care about. Canning milk? What the fuck.
Edit: I forgot that condensed milk is a thing…wondering if people can make it at home?
Mmm. Nothing I like more than a 5-year-old can of milk.
Ah yes, the 2018. That’s a good vintage. Aromas of pestilence and disease overwhelm the nose. An enticing menagerie of dumpster and botulism coats the palette with a subtle finish of garlic sharts lingering between sips. A pronounced effervescence from years of fermentation leaves a most pleasant mouthfeel. 95/100
I always buy dehydrated/condensed milk in cans, is that not normal?
Oh I’m dumb lol…can you do that yourself?
Yes you can. Take milk, simmer for an hour. Thats basically it
Edit: step 3 would be NOT canning it. Keep it in the fridge like a normal person.
I think you can make sweetened condensed milk at home but not safely preserve it. Have you noticed there’s no shelf stable normal milk? There’s no dairy products on the shelf on the Welch’s aisle. Even given industrial equipment, the best you can do is evaporated milk.
Insert pikachu face
I’ve noticed a huge increase of ragebait AITA posts every time I check the front page. They’re all pretty similar - disowning a child or deciding not to attend a wedding. And people fall for it every time. It’s kind of sad to see one of the smartest places on the internet turn into social media junk food.
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Umm, reddit readers, most never even acknolaging the exodus situation publically, began to really bug me. Knowing this, your words now stronger than ever throw into question their nature because:
people fall for it every time
That likely means both audences and creators. AITA is almost completely hyperreal now. Few non fictional interactions exist anymore. Was it always like this?
Is that why 90% of everything is the same unfunny reposts from 80 years ago now?
Due to the lack of visible karma, people repost way less on Lemmy than on reddit.
You just have bots that auto post to lemmy from reddit instead, and flood the feed with no intervention.
Which may actually be worse.
I block them. Did a big rant about that very topic a while back.
lemm.ee made plans to block bots.
So nothing’s changed then?
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Are they at least labeled as bots?
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What’s reddit?
I think it’s a website for people to ask celebrities whether they will fight horse sized ducks or duck sized horses.
Let’s talk about Rampart instead, shall we?
By the way, have you seen the banner of this community yet?
What do you mean by the banner? The barbie image? It’s very colourful
Omg you guys are amazing, thank you for the laugh. I was a reddit user since 2011. So many good memories, but I haven’t been back since the day of the app collapse…
WhEn dOeS tHe NaWaLl BaCoN???
Some sort of bad lemmy clone
I hear it’s kinda like Digg
Faces?
Something about putting things in cans
Accounts I don’t regret deleting:
Facebook
Twitter
Reddit
Add Instagram to the list.
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