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  • I very specifically did not mention LLMs, I even called out that our current technology is not there yet. And llms are current technology.

    The argument in thread was about AGI being impossible or possible. Not necessarily about the articles. Statement of llm-based agis not being possible, which is a pretty obvious and almost unnecessary statement.

    It’s like saying cars with tires and no airfoil surfaces aren’t going to fly. Yeah no shit.

    A fancy text prediction and marginal reasoning engine isn’t going to make AGI. By no means does that make AGI impossible though, since the concept of AGI is not tied to LLMs capabilities





  • Yeah, it most definitely is not magic given our growing knowledge of the molecular machines that make life possible.

    The mysticism of how life works has long been dispelled. Now it’s just a matter of understanding the insane complexity of it.

    Sure we can grow neurons but ultimately neurons are just molecular machines with a bunch of complications surrounding them.

    It stands to reason that we can develop and grow molecular machines that achieve the same outcomes with fewer complexities.


  • The only reason we wouldn’t get to AGI is point number two.

    Point number one doesn’t make much sense given that all we are are bags of small complex molecular machines that operate synergistically with each other under extremely delicate balance. Which if humanity does not kill ourselves first, we will eventually be able to create small molecular machines that work together synergistically. Which is really all that life is. Except it’s quite likely that it would be made simpler without all of the complexities much of biology requires to survive harsh conditions and decades of abuse.

    It seems quite likely that we will be able to synthesize AGI far before we will be able to synthesize life. As the conditions for intelligence by all accounts seem to be simpler than the conditions for the living creature that maintains the delicate ecosystem of molecular machines necessary for that intelligence to exist.