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It’s actually pretty easy to explain why rich people are whores.
The reason they’re rich is that they care so much about money. If they didn’t care about money, then at some point, they’d have enough money, and after that, they won’t be so interested in getting more money. Those people wouldn’t become rich.
Yes, there are exceptions. Some comedians just want to become famous, or want to go down in history as the best comedian. But most of them probably want to become rich and famous.
But what does “rich” mean? It’s not a specific amount of money. It’s that you’re comparing yourself to other people, and saying that you have more money than them. Donald Trump was so obsessed with this that he committed fraud to lie about his wealth. And basically all rich people have the same mindset to some degree.
If your goal is to be rich, then no amount of money is enough, and you’ll do anything if people pay you enough.
The buddha says that the more you have the more you want
Sometimes I forget what a cheatcode for satisfaction being raised Buddhist was
Always loved this guy.
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David has bee speaking the truth since Mr. Show. What a legend.
"…He did not address the criticism directly, but he did suggest he was happy to forget 9/11 for the right price: “I just know I get the routing, and then I see the number, and I go, ‘I’ll go.’” "
Apparently $375,000 is enough for Pete Davidson to piss on his fathers memory
I guess for most people it would be. Certainly I’d be like “sorry dad but I can buy a house an have my future be much more secure” if my kid did the same I’d like to think I’d understand as well…but this is for normal people. To these very well known and well off comedians is 375k that much? It’s like the equivalent of me getting like 5k which I’m not sure I would betray my morals for. Having said that nobody’s offering me 5k to!
Yeah, that makes sense, except that Pete Davidson is a millionaire who owns a house on Staten Island. He lives in a loft in Brooklyn that costs 30k/month
Well, that’s why he needs the money! 😂
You gotta support that lifestyle that you’re used to.
So true. I’m laughing, but dying inside. It’s so gross to see that amount of money just be wasted. There’s no reasons other than status and you want to be gaudy.
Yeah, but that’s like 10 months of rent!
There’s no way I’d go to Saudi Arabia for $5k.
He’s now working for his parent’s murderer.
It pays well…well it pays.
The lineup features Dave Chappelle, Louis CK, Bill Burr, Kevin Hart, Whitney Cummings, Pete Davidson, Aziz Ansari and Jo Koy, among many others who are all taking their fees directly from the Saudi government.
Burr being on that list surprises me, but it said he’s also been to UAE. Davidson is pissing on his father’s grave.
They have also taken flak from their peers. “The same guy that’s gonna pay them is the same guy that paid that guy to bone-saw Jamal Khashoggi and put him in a fucking suitcase,” said Marc Maron in a standup clip posted on his Facebook.
Exactly.
Greedy fucks, all of them.
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Dave Chappelle, Louie CK, and Aziz Ansari were all on the list of comedians.
Cancelling isn’t really a thing.
Well, it is a thing but it’s also an integral part of being human rather than a “culture” that’s somehow new. The difference is that it’s a power wielded by the people now rather than tastemakers putting people on a blacklist.
Another thing that’s happening with people that are “cancelled” is that they immediately get offered to join a group of “cancelled” public figures who bond over being disgusting pariahs and rebuild their careers by grifting to the right. Andrew Callaghan of channel 5 news (also All Gas No Brakes) talks about getting a job offer from InfoWars just a week after the sexual assault allegations against him went public. They anticipated he would respond by rebranding as “anti cancel culture” like so many others rather than admit fault and make a genuine effort to improve.
For those unaware of what happened with Andrew Callaghan, he had a habit of getting drunk and then pressuring/coercing women into having sex. His response was not perfect IMO, but he did confess that he had a problem and sobered up, which is more than can be said of most “victims of cancel culture.”
It never was. It was always a juvenile response to criticism.
Out of all of the comedians asked only TWO had enough integrity to turn the offer down.
Who?
Shane Gillis and Stavros Halkias were the only two that turned it down as far as I know.
Mike Birbiglia apparently turned it down, but didn’t make a big deal out of it.
There’s no way that Nate Bargatze and John Mulaney didn’t get offers. I have to assume they turned it down based on the fact they didn’t go.
Do you know if they turned it down for moral or ethical reasons or if they only turned it down because they already had a schedule conflict?
I can’t find it now but FWIW I just saw a video earlier today where Shane Gillis was dicsussing this. His reaction (at least in retrospect) was “You mean the 9/11 guys? No thank you”.
Well I guess I don’t know for sure but based on their general reactions to other people doing the show it sure seems like they turned it down for moral or ethical reasons.
I dunno if he turned it down or just blasted people about it but Zach Woods had a great video denouncing this.
I’m guessing he was just one of many other comedians that were blasting the others about it. I saw one list, I don’t know how comprehensive it is, but that’s what I’m going off of. It listed all the comedians on the bill and mentioned the two that turned it down.
I used to love standup comedy. These days I feel as though so much of the mainstream comedy scene is made up of immature losers who peaked in highschool. Joe Rogan, Bert Kreisher, Bobby Lee, Chris Distefano… I cannot stand these guys. The list goes on.
I thought Bill Burr was different. I’m really disappointed.
burr at least spoke out against the billionaire class…
but then he took the fucking bonesaw money. fuck.
Should we start calling him Bonesaw Bill or Bonesaw Burr.
mr funnybonesaw
Yeah, I never really cared for his vibe as a comedian until that part happened and then he decided to do this like a month or two later so I’ll go back to not caring about his shit again. I do hope people keep giving him shit for it until he stops showing his face though.
That freckled fuck is dead to me. He has gone against all he has said om his podcast and then doubled down. What a fucking tool.
I unsubscribed and sent him an email saying exactly why. No “dear billy blah blah” or “go fuck yourself” silliness either.
Others should too.
Just shows he was only speaking out because he thought he would make money from it, not because of any ethical principles.
Wait, what’s the bonesaw money?
MBS had Khashoggi (a journalist living in the US) murdered in the Saudi Embassy in Istanbul, then cut up with bone saws and packed into a suitcase.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Jamal_Khashoggi
you can see the obvious comedic angles there.
Ah, okay. I was aware of that, just thought maybe there was more of a connection to bill burr than just taking the money, like he had previously commented on it.
Taylor Tomlinson popped up on my feeds and it’s a fresh breath. Gianmarco Soresi did as well, but I doubt I’ll watch his special
Taylor’s, though, I’d go see that live, and I’m not somebody to go to comedy clubs
I’ve seen her live. She’s great, and worth it. She’s funny with both her rehearsed material and her crowdwork.
I think I could prepare a damned funny show, but no way could I ad lib like Tomlinson. Sometimes, when the mood hits, I can run with it, but she’s consistently on the ball.
She is pure brilliant.
I don’t think I’ve seen any clips that I haven’t laughed at. maybe a few that didn’t hit hard, but whoever is doing her media, they’re picking great stuff. and lots of it really gets me good, she’s just a great act
I’m a big fan. Seen all her specials and saw her live this year. She is a big talent. I’m happy for her. In other words, I don’t think it’s that good bits are being promoted, they’re all good bits.
I really like both. Gianmarco has exploded into my recommendations recently and I love every second.
don’t forget caleb hearon
I really hope he grows and shows some real contrition about it. It would take time to convince me, but I really hope he just didn’t think it through. Such a bummer.
Sadly, my prediction is that he’ll use his classic “I’m dumb, I don’t read the news” line as an excuse, and then go back to trashing billionaires as early as next week.
I don’t give a shit if he grows or not, I’m done with him. I saw what he did.
Choke on your blood money, bill burka.
In my fantasy world, these comedians are currently in conference calls working on material to fry the Saudis together.
Obviously they’d execute the first one that did it, but I like to dream
In my fantasy world countries aren’t run by murderous lying regimes
Bill Burr is different in many ways but the clip of him screaming “fagot” at the crowd was a clue that he’s no ethical paragon
Bobby Lee is a pedophile and I block every YouTube channel that suggests his videos.
This I did not know.
He came out later claiming it was a joke, but I don’t see how anyone can turn that into a comedy bit. This made me look at him deeper and he has a history of being creepy with women, many times on camera. I rather just avoid his stuff
I used to think I could sorta relate with him as he has that underachieving Asian persona.
The reason I got tired of him was how I felt like he kept giving free passes for his costars to do low-hanging racist jokes. Sometimes, a joke based on ethnicity can be bang on, like it makes me feel, “holy shit, that’s so true” because it’s based on a very keen observation. But when it’s a bunch of trashy “comedians” making jokes about small eyes, small cock, ching-chong-chang names, eating dog, etc. based on stereotypes, it’s just insulting.
And now he turns out to be a creep toward women and children, so fuck him even more, I guess. Too bad :(
Standup was a thing in the 80s. I feel like even by the 90s it was already dying. There were a few unique acts like Mitch Hedberg for example, but the format itself is kind of no longer relevant.
Excuse me say what? This news had me thinking yesterday about how many solid comedians there are now vs. back in the day. In the 80s, we could name most popular comedians. “Ever heard of this Eddie Murphy guy?”
Now? The list is enormous, and filled with hard hitters. I can spend all night on YouTube only watching the most popular, barely scratching the surface.
I appreciate this take. It’s interesting to think about - I have often felt alienated because I often don’t enjoy standup - neither from the classics nor the modern comedians.
Odd! With so much talent out there it’s surprising someone hasn’t hit your joy button.
Honestly think a big part of it was cable tv and premium channels becoming big and needing unique content, which led to comedy specials and shows.
The lack of comedy venues in most places except big cities around the US.
The ability to play uncensored shows and filmed comedy performances made for great late night TV for HBO and Showtime.
I think by the late 90’s- 2000’s the internet had stolen some of the spotlight and there were more comedy coming from improv groups and standup that landed TV deals. So that’s how we ended up with Reno 911, and shows like Chepelle, and Key and Peele. This was during the time that Mind Of Mencia was on. Comedy Central did a lot by just giving standup their own sketch type 30-60 min shows on prime time.
I think a lot of the people in comedy these days have piloted from touring to doing things like live podcasts and whatnot. The straight standup routine isn’t seen nearly as much anymore. Plus a lot of content is just directed directly to YouTube and patreon channels because it’s easier and more profitable.
Don’t make celebrity performers your idols, folks. They’re mostly psychologically damaged, amoral, backstabbing, money grubbing narcissists.
People: Billionaires are the problem
Also people: OMG Taylor Swift’s new album just dropped! Let’s go buy 3 different versions of it
You don’t get it, she’s a good billionaire because she’s a girl and owns her music. Who cares that she takes a private jet flight for what could be an hour long drive - she could never fly economy due her popularity!
I don’t disagree with you, but this is isn’t exactly “idol” level expectations, either. “Not selling out to horrific regimes” is basic decency I’d expect of everyone, not just those I look up to. Most of the names I see here make sense, but there are a few I expected to be better than this.
Comedians are probably the most disingenuous ones too, as idols. thier job is to Joke, and you know personally they are either what they joke about(they become the jokes themselves this default for right winger comedians they become thier own jokes, or doing the opposite of what they are joking.
Especially comedians… it’s a defense mechanism.
Jim Jefferies disappeared from the Riyadh festival lineup after he said on Theo Von’s podcast: ‘One reporter was killed by the [Saudi] government – unfortunate, but not a fucking hill that I’m gonna die on.’
What a fucking loser. He threw his soul away AND lost the payday. Lose-lose fucking loser.
The rest is even more cringy
“arguing it is for the greater good that “freedom-of-speech machines” such as himself bestow their “edgy” material on the kingdom and its subjects.”
It is one thing to sell your soul for money (or try anyways lol) but it is an entirely another level of loser quality to pretend like you are fighting for freedom while doing it.
chapelles reason was pretty obvious, hes a transphobe, that was mad when he cant say transphobic jokes, and SA allows him to be transphobic as much as he wants.
What I find most weird about him choosing to die on that hill is it wasn’t even a good transphobic joke.
Literally just hurr durr she has a dick.
My thought about the whole thing was that if someone went there and, in spite of the agreement they signed, teed off on the Saudis and whatever else they were forbidden from discussing, I’d have had respect. Was honestly hoping that’s what Burr was intending to do. I’d have donated to the GoFundMe for them to fight the inevitable lawsuit from the Saudis.
Obviously didn’t happen. We live in a difficult world, and when presented with the choice between fighting (hard) and rolling over (easy), people take the obvious choice. I don’t know if I’m doing it differently.
Are these sets even recorded and able to be viewed somewhere, or were they essentially private? If they’re private, I dunno, I get it.
I wouldn’t get so annoyed if they just took the easy path and went along with it. My only reaction would be to perhaps not watch their shows. But taking the easy path while pretending like it is actually virtuous… It just feels very slimy… Now I feel like making fun of this person every time I hear his name.
I don’t think the consequences of that would be a lawsuit. I think they’d go missing and would only be “found” as a mutilated corpse to send a message to anyone else who might have similar ideas. Or, if they are feeling bold enough, they might even do it officially.
Yeah, as brazen as they are, I don’t think they’re murdering American citizens for breach of contract. Regardless of what they said, it would be an incredibly hostile act towards the US and would lead to sanctions at best.
Wasn’t that journalist an American citizen?
And I question whether it would even lead to real problems with the current admin or if he’d just call it a good idea on social media and applaud them for dealing with someone for saying such nasty things about them. And unleash riot forces on protestors (or just use it as an excuse to try to ramp things up more).
Comedians understanding that they’re less significant of a form of free speech to society than a free and independent press is basically impossible for some reason.
I am really disappointed to see Bill Burr here. I’m not surprised to see Mark Norman and others who made a name for themselves by making jokes at others expense. They remind me of little kids in school picking on the fat kid or the new kid from another country.
I hate to bring this up, especially since SA kills people so openly, but the US’s track record of committing terrorist acts, or supporting terrorism (South America) is terrible. We’re currently supplying weapons to Israel that they use to kill children. That’s going on right now, they’ve killed like 60,000 Palestinians, 20,000 children. If you weren’t American would you be okay with comedians playing in a country with America’s history?
I wouldn’t boycott someone for performing here, but I think performers should boycott America.
If you weren’t American would you be okay with comedians playing in a country with America’s history?
The difference is comedians performing at Riyadh are paid by the Saudi government. Comedians performing in US are not paid by US government.
I haven’t been to the US since I had an already scheduled stopover shortly after Trump was elected (but before he was in office) the first time. Since then I’ve only taken flights that avoid US airspace.
Before that, I used to travel to the US regularly. I just don’t trust things to be both predictable and safe for foreigners anymore, since the current leaders have been very vocal that they consider the constitution to only apply to certain people.
im not surprised, he probably was an opportunist, all those other times he was supporting something “sjw”
Here’s a full list:
- Mo Amer
- Aziz Ansari
- Wayne Brady
- Hannibal Buress
- Bill Burr
- Jimmy Carr
- Dave Chappelle
- Louis C.K.
- Whitney Cummings
- Pete Davidson
- Chris Distefano
- Omid Djalili
- Zarna Garg
- Ben Hart
- Kevin Hart
- Gabriel Iglesias
- Jimeoin
- Maz Jobrani
- Jessica Kirson
- Jo Koy
- Bobby Lee
- Sebastian Maniscalco
- Sam Morril
- Mark Normand
- Russell Peters
- Jeff Ross
- Sugar Sammy
- Andrew Santino
- Andrew Schulz
- Tom Segura
- Ali Siddiq
- Cipha Sounds
- Aries Spears
- Chris Tucker
- Jack Whitehall
Happy Boycott!
EDIT: Corrected and expanded now, based on the feedback and what seem to be Saudi websites in English.
Be sure to fact check before putting people on blast and ruining their reputation.
The following comedians were openly critical of those who took the gig. These comedians DID NOT go. Okatsuka specifically revealed the details of the contract these comedians had to sign. Woods made a scathing video that went viral criticizing the lineup.
Checked more than one outlet (apparently AI-written, since people like Maron are connected to it, but in a negative way) and came up with that conservative list.
I am also surprised there is no official website I can find.
Corrected and expanded now, based on the feedback and what seem to be Saudi websites in English.
Was gonna say, those exact names would be the people I expect to not go. Atsuko and Marc in particular would really surprise me.
Burr being on that list makes me angry. Come on man.
Yeah man, fuck. Saw his jpg-artifact-face on the Cross response linked in the thread and just thought, no, cannot be right. And here we are. So now there were two terrible people on the Mandalorian show, damn.
I’m not surprised, he’s really just an ass.
He always seemed to be a principled ass, but I guess enough money can change that.
Yeah, I’m not sure why people are surprised he’s a POS. Someone told me to watch a special show of his and first thing he was punching down on trans people. Fuck him.
Shane Gillis and Atsuko Okatsuka turned the invitation down.
Atsuko has been outspoken about it and Shane said on his podcast he wouldn’t work for the people who did 9/11.
Checked more than one outlet (apparently AI-written, since people like Maron are connected to it, but in a negative way) and came up with that conservative list.
I am also surprised there is no official website I can find.
Corrected and expanded now, based on the feedback and what seem to be Saudi websites in English.
Aziz Ansari? Goddamn it…
I guess he really is a little creep after all.
kinda figure, i heard he was total creep/freak with woman. much like some others on the list.
No not Bill Burr come on man.
It’s been even worse since he got back and has been defending it. His supposed defenses make it so much worse for me.
That’s not accurate. Marc Maron criticized it heavily. Shane Gillis turned it down.
Checked more than one outlet (apparently AI-written, since people like Maron are connected to it, but in a negative way) and came up with that conservative list.
I am also surprised there is no official website I can find.
Corrected and expanded now, based on the feedback and what seem to be Saudi websites in English.
This list is fucking inaccurate. Nice job posting bullshit and muddying the waters.
Checked more than one outlet (apparently AI-written) and came up with that conservative list.
I am also surprised there is no official website I can find.
Corrected and expanded now, based on the feedback and what seem to be Saudi websites in English.
I appreciate the correction, but there were two names on that list that were mentioned in the article you linked as having turned down the money. 🤣
Turning down the money != not endorsing it. Can you expand on that?
TLDR: Who gives a shit?
A. Is it really necessary to split hairs like this here? You come across as just looking for a pointless, pedantic argument.
Obscure characterization of someone else’s motivation != anything useful. (Am I doing this right?)
B. He fixed his list so it doesn’t matter. And if you did see his original list, then you could just RTFA they linked and figure it out.
Being able to say something != Something should be said.
(Yup it looks just as pretentious when I do it.)
Are you even talking to the right person? I didn’t link any article.
Okatsuka turned the offer down, Patel changed his mind, and Maron not only wasn’t asked but has been outspokenly against the entire thing for like a month
Do you even know what’s being discussed lol
Checked more than one outlet (apparently AI-written) and came up with that conservative list.
I am also surprised there is no official website I can find.
Corrected and expanded now, based on the feedback and what seem to be Saudi websites in English.
Jimmy Carr. Wow.
That doesn’t really surprise me
Yeah he and Jack Whitehall are both shite and I never expected more from them to be honest.
I imagine how Sean Lock would have responded to this
Exactly.
The second-least-surprising one after Chappelle
Nimesh Patel backed out about a week before and didn’t end up performing
Lol how did you come up with this list? It’s incorrect…
Checked more than one outlet (apparently AI-written) and came up with that conservative list.
Corrected now.
Nice, thanks for taking the time to update. It’s been tough to find a good source and it’s not like these comedians are looking to publicize it either
People have a habit of repeating things they see from others. For instance you saw six other people made this same type of comment and you still made yours. So it’s probably just like that.
Whew, I was worried! But that’s an easy list to boycott. Never listened to any of them because they all sucked as comedians anyway.
C-list, tops.
‘They’re paying me enough to look the other way’
That is at least an honest approach instead of “We’ll change things over there with our comedy”.
Just stfu next time it’s about politics (hint: they won’t).
The only guy that is surprising for me is Bill Burr. Not exactly financially hanging on by a thread but still selling out like that.
Same, very surprised by Bill Burr and that it wasn’t a bit for him to tell the Saudis some hard truths either.
Instead, he gives us a weak-ass “they are the same as us” response because they have the same crappy fast-food…
It’s always about the money for these pricks.
Don’t fool yourselves into thinking entertainers are your friends. They’re not.
Mr. Rogers weeps.
We really got the worst era of comedy. Bunch of court jesters dancing for a king while the city burns
American comedy is become irredeemably lame. Though Jimmy Carr is on the list there too but at least him being a spineless whore is kinda his schtick
There are definitely exceptions. All of the comics mentioned here are people who peaked a decade or more ago, and most of them are extremely out of touch. There are a lot of more contemporary comics who are doing a great job. I don’t see Josh Johnson or Ashley Gavin or Gianmarco Soresi or like the people on Dropout showing up to something like this. There’s a whole generation of great comics, a lot of them coming out of UCB, who are funnier, wittier, and wiser than any of these clowns.
They were funded by these large groups and that isn’t talked about enough. It wasn’t just SA blood money they chased. They took it from hertiage foudation and other conservative groups. Most probably didn’t even realize they were doing it. They’d just get booked through agents. It just happened that these agents were working with groups who probably paid for personality profiles of the lamest comedians who could benefit their cause if they were actually popular.
I’d like to hear if Carr has any additional reasoning than just money.
So far he’s not made a public statement but knowing his shows are mostly people heckling him and him responding I can’t wait to see him called out
These losers hardly represent all of comedy.
I think they have. They’re the highest paid and most well known. That’s what defines an era unfortunately. It’s what defines status quo
What’s popular and “well known” is rarely, if ever, innovative. Established comics are always the most boring and hacky of their time. They may have been fresh and innovative once, but once they’re at the top, they just become tired shells of what they once were. The actual trend setters are the up-and-comers. That’s who define the era.
Super disappointed in Burr.
Unsubscribed.
I’ve been struggling to get a read on Burr since day one. He’s always seemed to want it both ways. I’m glad he has decided to remove all ambiguity.
Can’t believe bill burr went. Turns out all of his billionaire critics were just meaningless
Can absolutely believe Chapelle went.
He’s become more Rick James than Rick James.
I would have been shocked if he hadn’t.
They drove a dumptruck of money to his door, he’s not made of stone.
But you have to wonder if these guys are just grabbing the silverware before political satire is banned by zee Republicans.
Everyone knows now he can be bought and swayed easily by money, since money talks.
“Make shit excuses” isn’t really a definition of “defend.”
To defend something, it should be defensible in the first place. Otherwise you’re just failing while talking about how it was worth it, but with extra steps.
Literal blood money bruh
Inb4 they whine in their next comedy specials that they’re ‘being cancel cultured again by Gen Z’ and this time its ‘just for working’.
Cue laughs from conservatives.
