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    A reminder that “cashback” credit cards are paid for by big fees on transactions which the store pays, forcing them to raise prices. It’s literally anticompetitive

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      This does not apply so much in the Whole Foods/Prime example; the store, the membership, and the credit card are all Amazon products. The consumer is paying Amazon for the privilege of paying Amazon to pay Amazon.

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        It’s actually a Chase credit card, and you can convert the cash back to Chase’s system IIRC. But you’d be better off using the Sapphire or whatever their metal card is called if you want the Chase rewards. Amazon rewards just give you cash to spend on Amazon by default.

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          I’m not feeding them, the store is. My local worker owned grocery store doesn’t accept credit cards. Not my favorite, but I don’t pay cash back prices when I shop there.

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          And if the credit card issuers have already won this battle?

          I mean, I agree, I don’t like it either. I don’t even have a credit card. But I don’t see anything changing without a movement.

          [edit] I might have missed you were also the top-level comment. I’ll remind people if you will, haha.

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      And debit and cash use still pay this price without the benefit. Literally taking their money and giving it to credit card user as reward. There is no justification for credit cards. Banks should do credit margins and transactions should be extremely cheap under a common system.

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        Eh, for a lot of businesses, the few percent they pay in card fees is worth it to avoid handling large quantities of cash. Cash is a pain in the ass to actually work with on a large scale. Collecting it, counting it, securing it, keeping employees and random criminals from stealing it, etc. Plus lots of cash allows employees to steal from both the employer or the customer by giving bad change deliberately.

        Not that businesses shouldn’t accept cash, but there is a reason a lot of them don’t want to mess with it. It’s an enormous hassle.

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    Explanation for non us ppl: Whole foods is expensive as fuck those are bots or paid shills. Hence the Natural joke.

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      When Amazon bought Whole Foods, I had hoped they’d lower prices to a more reasonable level.

      Nope. Still $8 for the same exact $3 product elsewhere.

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    I only go to Whole Foods for a few specific stuff items that I can’t get elsewhere due to food allergies. There is no way they are the cheapest place to get groceries.

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      They actually sell the cheapest veggies and tofu in my area. I honestly don’t bother looking at anything else they have so I can’t speak otherwise.

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        That seems bizarre based on the prices I see, maybe they are intentionally undercutting the others locally in your area specifically. Whole Foods was by far the cheapest place to buy eggs earliest this year and were obviously using them as a loss leader (we’re talking less than half the price of standard grocery stores in the same area).

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          It’s also worth noting that free range and organic eggs got hit waasaay less than your average factory farm egg, therefore it probably hurt Amazon a lot less to keep eggs low compared to other grocers.

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      All I know is that at least Whole Foods is better organized. I used to live next to a gristedes and I hated that store, I’d shlep to Trader Joe’s.

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    Just so everyone knows – in case you hadn’t heard – you can save 30% on your car insurance by switching to Geico.

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    This reminds me of a time when i used to subscribe to Hydro Homies and there was always someone in the comments tryna hawk a Berkey water filter.

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    ITT: People who have never been to a Manhattan grocery store

    Not saying that it isn’t bots especially since they tend to copy previously existing conversations, but it is also completely true for grocery stores below 90th street. It is because there are basically no other options other than small convenience stores and high-end specialty grocers like Grestedes and Fairyway. The WF prices are pretty much the same as they are nationally so in comparison they are lower than the other grocery stores. Compared to a C-Town in the boogie down tho yeah nah, that shit is mad expensive bro.

    TLDR; Manhattan sucks

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    You know, use of long dash is the same kind of tell as an image having 6 fingers. Not impossible to find in human interactions but generally very rare, especially in online conversation. (I’m not even sure if my phone can do a long dash, just these fellows: —).

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      I use the em-dash a lot. It’s not just about the presence of one, the issue is that LLMs know they exist but don’t know where they go. It’s sort of like a semicolon, which goes where neither a comma nor a period feel right. An em-dashes simply goes where neither comma nor period nor semicolon feels right

      Edit: I should clarify, that’s simply how I use them. I’m not smart enough with words to know stuff like “parenthetical clauses” or w/e. Point being, AI just throws them in like they’re sentence enhancers

      On my keyboard, I just click the button on the bottom left to see punctuation, and then long-press the hyphen

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        Single em dashes can almost always be used interchangeably with semicolons—they typically separate independent clauses without a conjunction.

        Paired em dashes—used to demarcate parenthetical expressions—can be replaced by commas, but not by semicolons.

        It has less to do with what feels right and more to do with the mechanics of the sentence. There is a good bit of wiggle room, figuratively speaking, in deciding whether to use commas or paired em dashes—likewise, whether to use a single em dash or a semicolon is almost entirely a stylistic choice. But I feel like the way you explained it is a bit misleading to people still learning the difference.

        An em dash can also be used to delineate an abrupt break in the direction or structure of a sentence or dialogue in a way that commas or semicolons simply—fuck, I just shit my pants.

        Not trying to be a pedant, just sharing what I’ve learned over the years.

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          I feel like generally a good way to summarize it is that em dashes can be used basically anywhere there would be a pause in natural conversation. You pause to include some content, you switch topics, etc. It’s fairly intuitive.

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        Well em-dashes can be used in place of other punctuation that is typically used to denote parenthetical information — such as commas and parentheses — but it also has other uses. Similar to a semicolon it can also be used when changing the idea of a sentence — it’s versatile and often an overlooked and underutilized piece of punctuation. Additionally, when you have multiple parenthenthical levels, such as this which is commonly placed within commas — or parentheses — which can be overused, it allows you to segment different layers of parenthetical information.

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        i always thought that em-dashes were used instead of commas whenever

        1. your sentence already has too many commas, or
        2. you want to be fancy
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      An em dash — when used properly — is perfectly fine, but a little academic. iOS will do one automatically with two hyphens and a space.

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        Lemmy markdown — which is better than Reddit markdown in some ways, but worse in others — will automatically do a similar conversion, except it takes three hyphens instead of two (two hyphens gets you an en dash). It’s nice, but also unfortunate because it messes up people’s muscle memory since using only two for it mimics what was customary when writing in ASCII, on mechanical typewriters, etc.

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      This is a bad take. I use em dashes if I feel it’s called for. It’s just proper grammar. We probably shouldn’t be making people dumb down the way they write so as to not be mistaken for AI.

      Read some books, you’ll see that it’s used all of the time.

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        I use dashes all the time, but em-dashes? I don’t even know how to type those. I guess I could long-press the dash on my phone and select it, but… why?

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          Because people have their own styles of writing, and some people like the way they look/the rhythm they provide a sentence or paragraph.

          I’m not kidding when I say to read some books. They’re everywhere in actual literature.

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            no no, you misunderstand. I’m not talking about the verbal flourish of dashes for interjection - I use those all the time, in this very sentence - I’m specifically talking about producing the specific Unicode character (—) instead of just using the normal ASCII dash (-). the only way I can make the actual em-dash character is by long-pressing. if I do – or —, it’s just a sequence of normal dash glyphs for me.

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            I actually don’t. :) it’s the first thing I disable on my phone. I only capitalize “I” specifically, and proper nouns.

            again though, my issue is one with producing the Unicode character of the specific em-dash glyph. maybe some phones automatically convert dashes to em-dashes based on context but I personally wouldn’t know how it’s done.

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    I’m always worried about this whenever I talk about the fairphone or framework laptop but I also sell Linux like a merchant so I think people get I’m just a nerd

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      TBF those companies don’t have the budget for a astroturfing bot campaign, or at least can’t afford the PR hit.

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        Last night I brought up a Burger King meal I saw on a commercial to my friends in IRC. We all agreed it was less expensive than we thought it would be and one guy actually ordered it. Some of us ARE that basic, lol.

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          I mean, that’s okay. This is an IRC channel of friends, but it’s hard to imagine in a converaation with strangers. Sure, it can happen, and I’d say some subreddits are more prone for this to happen than others, but something in the conversation is off, even inorganic.