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    I’ve been told that the stuff isn’t actually plastic, but rather clear cellulose, and can in a pinch be used as a wrap to roll a joint. Yes clear cellulose papers do exist, but you think I’d actually trust smoking cheese wrapping stuff? Hell no!

    Regardless, after hearing that years ago, I did try burning a cheese wrap after that, and much to my surprise the wrap didn’t melt like plastic, it burned like paper.

    I just got done trying it again, with a different brand of cheese, and yeah this one burned and melted like plastic. ☹️

    I guess different cheese makers use different wrapping material, but either way, if someone suggests rolling a joint in cheese wrap, just say NO!

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    I got a milkshake a while back, in a plastic container, with a plastic lid, for some reason it also came with a plastic spoon, and a paper straw, since they are cutting down on plastics…

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      >go to mcdonald’s

      >order hot cakes and a large orange juice

      >receive hot cakes in plastic container, with six individually plastic wrapped teaspoons of butter and a plastic tub of high fructose corn syrup and a large plastic cup of orange juice

      >throw away plastic straw

      >pull out reusable metal straw

      >I’m saving the environment one breakfast at a time

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        Ha ha in France they just stopped giving you straws. The paper cup for the drinks just said on it something like "To drink, remove lid and lift cup. You’re not an infant " lol

        Now they have those reusable cups and fry holders, which are suspiciously smaller than the paper ones

        Only thing I noticed that was single use plastic was the little tub of sauce

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          Yeah only thing is those cups are like that because people have cup holders in their car or walking with open hot drinks. So calling them an infant just cuz they don’t want to sue their company burns is a bit short sighted. Weirdly bad marketing that they should overlook that as one of the most common demographic getting a packed breakfast in the morning

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            A) It’s for cold drinks

            B) If you drink coffee with a straw you should be sent to an island somewhere with the people who drive tiny-penis trucks

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            It’s almost as if those people would know to take a straw everywhere, seeing as they’ve lived with the condition

            You’re not helping progress with constantly saying “what about…?”

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              do they though. I don’t think I have seen them carry their own. After all if every place as a straw then you dont need your own. But that is an easy fix for them.

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        Ah the, “I’ll have a diet coke with this Big Mag, Cheesecake bites, large French Fries” mindset.

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      I know this probably isn’t the best place, but I really hate the way paper straws feel, but I also hate being handed a any straw when I can just drink straight from the cup anyway.

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      In my community, most of the lids are biodegradable. Still not great (require an industrial composter), but at least if it is left out, it does breakdown somewhat faster than “never”

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    I mean there was some joke libertarian candidate that literally ran under the slogan “Make America Grate Again” claiming that he would outlaw sliced and shredded cheeses to make America embrace its graters and its grating roots.

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      How is clamping down on the freedom companies have to make plastic cheese, and the freedom for people to buy it… Libertarian?

      Isn’t that pretty authoritarian?

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      I bought a rotary grater about two years ago thanks to a post on Reddit and I rarely ever buy sliced cheese anymore, if I do it’s the kind that comes in one pack with parchment paper in between the slices.

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      Personally, I like cheese but I always found plastic sliced cheese just fucking gross. Melted cheese in plastic blech

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        Try a good deli-style American. So much better than Kraft Singles. Much lower milk content, so it’s more solid. Not individually wrapped, but individually sliced. Higher cheddar and Colby content, so its flavor is better. Still melts beautifully. Best burger cheese out there, IMO.

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          How could it be lower milk content? Cheese is 99.9% milk by definition, especially actual cheese (not sure what’s in this Kraft stuff). The only additive is supposed to be the starter culture.

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            American cheese is processed. Depending on the amount of milk added during that processing, you get a product with a more or less firm consistency.

            Singles are liquid when they’re poured into the wrap, and then they solidify. In this they end up being far less like traditional cheese.

            Check out the Wikipedia page for more detail.

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      I’m never exposed my child to this stuff, she’s been raised with mild cheddar slices or better, I guess they use it in fast food places though.

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      Kraft does sell non-singles sliced american cheese. Nothing between the slices and it doesn’t stick together. Also doesn’t have that plasticy taste.

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    Remember when fruit stickers used to be paper and biodegradable? Now they’re all fucking plastic because they need their logo to be shinier I guess.

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    That’s because all you absolute fucking babies are still crying they took your plastic straw away.

    The reason we don’t have sensible climate conversations leading to real action is because the SLIGHTEST thing anyone suggests and you fucking scream your toddler heads off for years!

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      Many modern humans are a bunch of entitled little shits and it applies across the political spectrum.

      I strongly believe every person needs to experience serious adversity at some point - homelessness, joblessness, food insecurity, chronic health issues, or chronic pain. I have had most of the above (and still have some, yay chronic health issues) and that made me a better person by giving me perspective. I don’t give a shit about losing plastic straws; on the contrary, I welcome their loss, they’re stupid and polluting. I can walk and I have a warm place to sleep at night, losses like plastic straws seem as trivial as they truly are.

      All the best people I know went through some shit or are empathetic enough to understand what it’s like. The worst people I know either were protected from adversity, lack the empathy to learn from others, or went through an adverse situation but didn’t have the tools to properly work through it so it made them worse.

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        Uh… Yeah… I’ve experienced homelessness throughout my teenage years and… Uh… It really makes the things “normal” people complain about or stress over seem small and insignificant.

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          Same here and seriously. It’s not that I disagree that whatever is bothering them is bothersome, it’s usually just something I wouldn’t notice.

          Like people cutting me off or speeding on the freeway. I really couldn’t care less as long as they’re not putting me directly in danger. I really just don’t notice but it drives my wife nuts. I’m just happy I’m only driving my car, not living in it.

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      For folks worried about plastic straws and bags and simple little shit, remind them what Lego is made of and how much of that is out there with the rest of the trash…

      Don’t get me wrong, I love Lego, but still in the long run it’s just more of the plastic pollution problem. Of course this isn’t the only place they end up, but check this…

      https://youtube.com/watch?v=3FxfXVuHRjM

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          Just because it isn’t meant to be thrown out, doesn’t mean squat when people and families get evicted or homes demolished from disasters or whatever. We don’t live in an ideal world, shit happens, and when it does, your stuff gets thrown in the dumpsters and landfills, if not end up elsewhere.

          Plastic is plastic. Humans lived for ages without the stuff, so plastic is not a necessity of life. Eventually it’s all gonna become pollution…

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              I’ve almost never purchased electronics, I almost exclusively salvage flood damaged electronics and otherwise damaged electronics from the side of the road or dumpsters. Fuck off, I actually do my part. Do you?

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            Yeah I do agree people are not willing to have these conversations, we live incredibly wasteful lives for no reason at all - yeah Lego is a fun toy but we don’t need it to last for ten thousand years, like let’s keep that stuff for special things and if we’re making models then keep some logs asside, cut them into the size pieces you want and use a knife or chissel to shape them.

            Or depending on your local geology dig a hole, wash out the clay by swapping between buckets then let it dry until it’s the desired consistency and shape it into what you want to make - when you’re done you can just crumble it up and use it again, or if you really love it then you can fire it and keep it as long as you like, when you smash it up then it’ll all go back to soil.

            But no people need to buy Disney licences Lego kits which they’ll probably keep in the box anyway because they don’t even want to play with them that just want to have them for a while then leave them in the soil for the next few millennia.

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      Dang, sorry for not being 100% on board with something that’ll make things worse for some disabled people while having an immeasurable impact on the climate

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      Things can be related to more than one thing at a time. Banning single use plastics will be cheaper for corporations that offer them for free but it’s also better for the environment if they do not exist for decades or centuries after they’ve been used.

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      Thank you for fighting the good fight. Kraft Singles make people not want to try deli-style American. It makes me sad.

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        Kraft has “Deluxe American” cheese slices that aren’t individually wrapped and have a better flavor and texture.

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          I have some in my fridge right now, actually, as it’s the most consistently stocked deli-style brand at my local market. I’m a fan!

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      Kind of depends. Vermont cheddar cheese is fantastic and very nice but if you looking for a good smash burger or juicy Lucy burger you have to use that crappy Kraft singles stuff for the proper melt. Sure you can get Kraft in a block of sliced cheese but I am rarely cooking for like 50-100 people, which these blocks come out of.

      Kraft cornered the market for a stable cheese in the early 1900’s here in America that melts really nicely and has a long shelf life with Velveeta.

      A fun short little history and company story is by the Company Man on YouTube https://youtu.be/Hp0uhC15RtI?si=JAPmRQztP7ee5eSU

      But even Guga Foods on YouTube highly recommends using the crappy cheese over the fancy stuff

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        Most block cheeses with a good fat and moisture content will melt well when shredded off the block right before you intend to use it. The pre-shredded or pre-sliced stuff has additives like starch in and on it to stop it from sticking together in the package and melting during transit, which prevents a good melt. Get yourself a cheap rotary shredder from Amazon (they’re like $20, mine never stays clean because I use it like every other day) and see for yourself.

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    Why the fuck didn’t Twizzlers capitalise on the non-plastic straw market?!

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        I dunno man, the whole point of using a Twizzler as a straw is that you eat it after…

        Imagine if, instead of showing bling replacement teeth, rappers posed for photos with Twizzlers in their mouths. Craig Charles surely would have looked different.

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          Well, you do make a good point. Plus, there’s that much less evidence left behind. Snort on homie, you’re clearly more experienced than me… 👍

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            I just fucking love liquorice. Whether or not it tastes like bank notes makes no difference.

            It’s when you take the morning rush to the office and smell a pang of bank notes that I start asking questions. That’s not cologne, yet some people wear it as such.

            Craig Charles does crack though, fair warning if you ever end up in a green room with him.

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        I used to drink root beer out of the licorice red vines, those held up quite well. Though, the lart was around seven years ago. I haven’t seen blaok red vines in ages around these parts.

        Have no idea if the red ones would have held up. Never liked those too much, heh, and other than root beer, birch beer, I’d drink coffee instead.

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        Absolutely.

        Although I imagine some sort of German engineered version, where the hole isn’t all that big but somehow maintains structural integrity yet significant flow rate.

        The life we could’ve had if McDonalds didn’t dictate things.

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          where the hole isn’t all that big but somehow maintains structural integrity yet significant flow rate

          Sorry, fluid mechanics doesn’t work that way.

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            I dunno man, I have a few German vapes protected by patents that seem to work alright. Their first patent expired a few years ago, however patents for their portable vapes won’t expire until 2035, but there’s surely some scope to make something transformative before then.

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              I’m not familiar enough with vapes (German or otherwise) to understand how they’re related to using Twizzlers as straws.

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                Because the vape I’m talking about has a trick heatsink inside that it uses to heat air up to the desired temperature, without massively restricting airflow.

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      Why can’t they make the straw out of the same thing that the inside of the cup is made out of? My cup isn’t disintegrating in seven minutes due to exposure to liquid.

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    Fake Plastic Cheese, good radiohead song.

    I admit growing up pretty poor, these were considered a treat lol.

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        I don’t know what you’re talking about. The lyrics seem pretty clear about the song being about cheese.

        Her green plastic ez-cheese can

        For her fake Chinese cooking pan

        In the fake cheesy earth

        That she ate from a spray cheese can

        In a town full of muenster plans

        To get rid of American

        It wears her out

        It wears her out

        It wears her out

        It wears her out

        She lives with a queso hand

        A sliced American hand

        That just crumbles and molds

        He used to get pepper jack

        For girls who want that jack

        But American always wins

        And it wears him out

        It wears him out

        It wears him out

        It wears

        She looks like the fake cheese

        She tastes like the fake cheese

        My fake plastic cheese

        But I can’t help the feeling

        I could chew through the sealing

        If I just turn and taste

        And it wears me out

        It wears me out

        It wears me out

        It wears me out

        And if it could be cheese you wanted

        If it could be cheese you wanted

        All the cheese

        All the cheese

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    Considered the following:

    The slices of cheese are analogous to each of our individual lives: it’s boring, manufactured, and there is a wrap of plastic which define us as individuals but keeps separate from one another. The only good aspect of American cheese is that it is designed for melting, so in essence, by removing the plastic barrier that keeps us separated, we, like the humble slices of American cheese, can melt and become part of something greater than our individual selves (like a burger or a grilled cheese).

    Or as Karl Marx once said: Life is plastic, it’s fantastic.

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      did you just use wikipedia as a verb and can you explain how i can start doing the same?

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        First google it, then click on Wikipedia. Next time you tell someone to google it, but you really mean click the Wikipedia link… well you get the idea

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          if i may add another meaning, “the act of adding a page for it on wikipedia”. this one only applies when someone wikipedias something and theres no article for it already. by the way, the wikipedia verb should absolutely be wikipediaed