• Treczoks@lemmy.world
    22·
    3 days ago

    It is absolutely stupid to add more lines for a main road as long as the outflow from it can’t handle it. Ten lanes of motorway makes no sense if the one outlet 90% of the cars want to take has one lane and nasty traffic lights at the next corner.

    City planners should be forced to play Cities:Skylines. Lessons to be learned: a) Make public transport good and free, and b) Lane Maths.

    • CoolMatt@lemmy.ca
      1·
      14 hours ago

      Vehicles don’t even use lanes properly in Cities Skylines. They all line up single file in one lane backed up all the way down the highway all the way to the edge of the map because they all want to take one of the multiple available exits. The only time they ever switch lanes is if the other lane turns left, and they switch at the last second right before the turn

          • Colonel Panic@lemm.eeEnglish
            1·
            7 hours ago

            Usually you start with traditional methods of expanding lanes adding overpasses and loops and then broaden into adding multiple alternative routes and eventually you dabble into designing your own custom interchange, but that isn’t enough so you research the entire history of the automobile and read every book on traffic theory and then learn about and become a master of road design and all c̴͔̚ŏ̷͔n̵̛̗c̴̫̄e̸͎̽ĩ̸̭v̵̛̳a̴̩̔b̸̩͐l̶̟͆ẽ̵̲ ̴̰͝f̵̻̓o̵͍͛r̴̯̽m̸̙̍s̵̙͐ ̵̺̚o̴͙͝f̶̮͆ ̶͓̏ǔ̵̱r̶͓͐b̶̮̆à̸̱n̶̻̍ ̸̰̒ĩ̸͖ņ̶͑t̸̩̒e̷͈͝r̸̲͠c̶̹̈́h̵̃͜a̴̺͠n̴̡͝g̴̻̽e̴̤͠s̴̩̿ ̶̯͂a̶̱͆n̸̨͆d̴̞͗ ̴͈̇t̸͎̄h̴̹̓ě̶͚i̷̛̼r̵͓̒ ̸̺̆p̶̛͓r̴̟̔o̷̥̊s̷͕̀ ̵̰͘a̵̯̍n̸̘͗ď̵̢ ̷̧̈c̶̢̀ọ̶̚n̷͍͌s̶̖͗. a̶̡̧̲̱̰̭͓̖͑s̷̨̨̱͉̗̘̦̑̑̈́̏ͅ ̴̖̀̊͐͊̈͆̒͘y̸͚͓̤̝̿͂͠ő̶͈̼̩̲̗͂ͅů̴̢̲̙̻̠͎̂ͅ ̶͇͚͚̈́̓̚̚d̶͕̦̩͓͛͗͐è̸̫̻s̵̫̰̦͈̘͉̖̩̈́́̚ç̷̰̠̺̽̔̆͐e̷͍̔̎̾n̸̡̟͉͇͖̠̎͗͊̀̾̎͠d̴̘̩̺͉̋ ̵̫̼̊̉̉̑̇͠͝f̷͖͓̩̩͙̈̌̒̊͜ü̸̮̟͖̘̑̀̃̂͌̕̚r̷͔̀̐̒͐̍͑͊ṯ̷̩̰͍̲̥̂͂h̸̼͚̞̪̫̙̞͒͂ę̷̳͉̱̙̭̈̔̈́̉̒̎r̴̡̰̩̭͖͌̐̋́̐͝ ̴͖̤̈̌̌͑î̵̼̦̭͑̒͆͐̄̕͘n̸̡̮͙̠͕̘̥͊̀̀̊͛̑͛͆ͅt̶̺̠̐̎͘ò̶̳͖̙̮̟̭̝͑̆͒͘͠ ̶̘̠̝͉̺̤͖͆̉̈́̈m̸̗͇͎̬̮͗̉a̸̘̺̓d̷̨͔̼͓͎̯̓̕͝ǹ̵̗̝̘̭̩̀̉͒̋͑͗̀é̷̙̂͌̆̈́̆s̸̫͕̈͗́̈́s̸̨͙̞͈͓̱̩̀̆̂̒͒̒̚̚͜ ̸̥̇̒̈á̷͓͙̟̹n̶͓̞̼̪̋͐̒͘d̸̙͉̫̜̾͘ ̸̳͈̝͂͗͐̄c̷͓̞͛̈͆̕ą̷̦̯͎̕n̴̗̭̼̄̍ ̷̧̈́̓͑n̸̼͇͚̈́́͜ë̸͉̥̉̿͛v̶͔́̈e̴̻̔͌̅͠r̴͖̈͘ ̵͙̮̖̣̅̌s̶̻̋͜͝t̴̛̲͝͝o̸̯̹̿p̸̠̟̭̾̇.̷̢̪͕͇͐̚ ̷͖͇̖͕̆̓H̵͙̖̀́̀͑e̷̻͑̈͘l̶̙̫̼͔̃̕̕ṗ̴̨͈̖̝̇̒̽.̷̹̲̠͈̊̾̀̕ ̴̭̼̝̍̒͌̕Ī̷̺͓̠͕̀͝ ̷̹̣̲̏͜w̶̡̩̞̔̀ȧ̵̡͚̺ǹ̴̬̘̾ţ̸̪͐́̈́ ̸̰͑ẗ̴̺̭͇͇́́͘̕o̵̠̓͑̕ ̶̨̝̄̊͒e̵̼̪͒s̶̙͕̃̄͜c̴̲̫̳̺̓͠ą̶͖̭̄̃͜͝͠p̶͍̜̈̆e̷͓͛,̷̫͕̭̓͂̅̍ ̶͖̳̂̓̇b̴̫͔͆̅̈̓ǘ̶̮̝̹̼͂t̶̠̰̻͑̄̒͜ ̴̹͋̈́͘ẗ̷͕͕̖̲́̌͒̀ḧ̶͓͉̟̺́̈͐e̴̛͖̖̗̥̕r̵̬̠̽͐ë̷̛͈̘̘̮ ̸͖͚̻̹̈́̅̀i̸̗͂̎ś̸̳̳͈̾́͘ ̸̺͠n̴̢̥̲͓̄͘o̸͖̠͇͋ ̴̠͎̬̙́̌͝e̷̙̣͐̇x̴͎̱̦͆̈́͑͘ī̷̖̥̤̠̃̍̿t̶͓̞̮͊̊ ̴͔̝͌̅͒͠r̸͉̓̓͘á̵͍͕̣͜m̷̪͍͈̎́̀͂ṕ̶̧̜͕̞.̷̛̼̼̐͐ ̸̝͖̹͒̌T̵̳̹͌͠h̸̺̘̀͛̏͋e̸͎͖̳͍͂̈̎r̴̬̦͆̑͘͘ȇ̷͓ ̵͍̟̱̉̒̆i̷̺̘̇́ŝ̵̘̖ ̴̧̾̓͊̓n̴̙̋͝o̷̩̘̭͗͒̃̂ ̸̖̬͚͍̓́ė̵̗̙̱̊s̶̛̖̠͗̋͊c̸͎̬̦̈́́͗̕a̴͕̣̝̪͂̋͠p̷̠͈͕͇͝ê̶̦̣̽̀̈́.̶̨̻̐͌̈͠ ̷͓̳͂͌͋͂

    • defaultsamson@lemmy.ml
      3·
      3 days ago

      Part of the problem with city planners is that much of their job is just alleviating car traffic. And if they were successful at doing (like making good public transport and walkable cities) they would have far less work, and be put out of a job.

      That being said, I think they would realistically just start working on other city issues, but I think that’s the mindset that keeps them building this kind of stuff.

      I bet there’s also a factor of that things are already going in this direction, and there’s already more demand for driving, and it’s far more difficult to go against the grain.

  • NarrativeBear@lemmy.world
    37·
    3 days ago

    I present to you hwy 401 in Toronto Ontario Canada. 18 lanes at its widest point. (Just south of Pearson International Airport)

    1000026613

  • NarrativeBear@lemmy.world
    22·
    3 days ago

    Hwys really should not need to be any wider that what’s shown in this photo.

    Trucks and trailers on the right always, cars in the middle, and passing on the left.

    Or for our UK friend’s. Lorries on the left always, cars in the middle, and passing on the right.

    1000026615

    • rumba@lemmy.zipEnglish
      4·
      3 days ago

      and 99% of the US roadways are this or less.

      But when a road connects three urban areas with multiple suburbs in every direction, weird things happen. Most traffic horror isn’t in road planning at all, it’s in urban and suburban planning.

      Why do 3 million people need to get from one side of LA to the other on a regular basis?

    • I'm Hiding 🇦🇺@aussie.zone
      31·
      3 days ago

      All good and well until you have a 3 or 4 trailer road train limited to 90kph with a poor little box truck stuck behind it wanting to do 110kph. Trucks should be allowed in the middle lane for overtaking each other.

    • epicstove@lemmy.caEnglish
      5·
      3 days ago

      If a train were to go along that whole motorway it would take up a fraction of the space, carry most if not all those people, and move them faster than this.