New evidence confirms COVID-19 vaccines are overwhelmingly safe::More than 38 million COVID-19 vaccine doses have been administered in Ontario as of Oct. 8, with 23,002 reports of adverse reactions, an incidence of 0.06 per cent, Public Health Ontario says

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    Okay, if you say so, because I died six months after getting the first one like they said I would. Now I’m a magnetic 5G zombie.

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    Amazing what all the efficacy and safety studies said before is still true. It was true before, but now it’s also true.

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      They’re not safe. They’re 0.06% harmful. That number is probably a lie too, in reality with all the cover ups and bad incentives the number could be as high as 0.1% harmful, that means 40% of cases were covered up or hidden by nurses and doctors who actively went against their hippocratic oath and did something malicious and counter effective to their job. And they don’t even clearly define what harmful is. How many of those 0.1% had mild head aches or nausea? Everyone is stupid but me.

      /s

      But in all seriousness I’m not sure if it’s better to admit that it’s not 100% safe because a lot of people think they will be the unlucky one out of 1000 to get a headache or a mild rash or the 1 out of 100000 that has something more severe. People who are generally anti vax have a hard time grasping these numbers and also seem to be completely wilfully blind to the increased danger from getting actual Covid. They think they’ll be fine and either won’t get it or it won’t be bad yet at the same time think they’ll be the unlucky one to get sick from the vaccine

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        I usually tell people that it’s safer than birth control. 1 in 1000 women experience severe complications from birth control, and we hand that stuff out like candy.

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          So true. Sadly it’s often those same types of people against vaccines who are against birth control as well.

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            Depends on if people are willing to listen to facts of incidence of actual adverse effects from the vaccine or not, something like 1 in 2.6 million people will see adverse side effects (depending on source of statistic). Also depends on what health issue you’re looking for issues with. But the overwhelming concensus is that the vaccine is safe. 1 in 1000 is orders of magnitude larger than the covid vaccine adverse effects.

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      Sometimes the goalposts are moved and merged with goalposts from other conspiracy theories.

      When 5g wasn’t the end of humanity it became the trigger for a zombie virus…hidden in the vaccine!

      Wonder what third thing will become the new first domino to knock over the 5g and vaccine dominoes.

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        Conspiracism is not truth-tracking. It’s rooted in an emotional response to feelings of lack of control. By saying false things and getting away with it, the conspiracist feels greater control over their life. “You can’t stop me from lying, therefore I have power.”

        Hence why authoritarians love conspiracism: authoritarianism promises that if you repeat the doctrine and smash the Leader’s designated enemies (the “conspiracy”), you will regain the control that was taken from you. This also illustrates why “left” authoritarianism (e.g. Stalinism, Maoism) is really rightist: it does not actually offer freedom or equality, but rather rigid hierarchy and escalating falsehood and cruelty.

        If you follow Nazism, Stalin, Hamas, Trump, or Netanyahu and smash the designated enemies who the Leader tells you have been conspiring against your nation … you do not get freedom, you just eventually become the next enemy to be smashed. Of course really your Leader has built up the enemy to threaten you: authoritarians never seek peace, because peace removes the need to fear and hate.

        (None of this is new. Orwell and Sartre both described it in the 1940s.)

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          This kind of inappropriately equates conspiracy theories and conservatism but I assure you that the anti-GMO, 9/11 Truther, and even the original vaccine pushback were not from the right

          There’s even crossover. The New Age/NESARA movement has a pipeline directly into Qanon, a movement at opposite views to NA stuff.

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        It’s almost like those people are happily waiting for this type of panopticonic apocalyptic event to happen just to be proven right the only time in their entire miserable lives

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    We always knew/suspected this. But the ones that do the fearmongering around vaccines will not be interested in facts…

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    I don’t know about you guys but I absolutely love the $5000 that is deposited onto my microchip every month! Helps so much with bills! Thanks Obama!

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    Are Republicans still waiting for people who got the initial vaccine to drop dead overnight? lol.

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      As of my last count we’ve all died 7 or 8 times now, and if we didn’t, next time for sure!

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    What’s the point of this? The people who already believe the vaccine is safe already know it. Those that don’t believe it’s safe aren’t gonna read this OR the report. They’ll claim it’s some sort of propaganda.

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      It’s important simply to do just for the benefit of science going forward. We need to look at the long term effects of medicines. Usually we do that prior to release. It also protects you from the propoganda. Someone may throw out crazy statistics at you but you’ll have this study in your back pocket so you can be like “yeah it’s crazy” and dismiss don’t debate.

      And try not to get too downtrodden with humanity. Not everyone is a too far gone. Some are just a little lost.

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        Exactly this. What’s annoying is how people twist the process along the way.

        For example, with the AstraZeneca vaccine there was this overblown controversy over blood clots. Every time you stick someone with a needle, their blood will clot, and there’s a chance that a chunk of this clot will break off into the blood stream. Sometimes, the thing you’re injecting makes it more likely to happen, and as such we closely monitor new injections to determine whether or not the issue is significant. AstraZeneca (or any other covid vaccine) has been shown to not significantly increase the risk of blood clots over any other injection - but that didn’t stop politicians (eg Boris Johnson in the UK) to parrot on about the handful of people who did develop blood clots as if it were a real issue. Of course, this led to AstraZeneca no longer being offered as a vaccine for many people; instead, Pfizer and Moderna vaccines were used. Wouldn’t you know it, Boris is personally invested in these companies. He shooed away the non-profit vaccine in favour of the for profit pharmaceutical mega-corporations that pay him dividends. And, of course, his statements actually reduced the uptake of vaccines in general.

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        Yeah, given how quickly alot of these were rushed out, due to the emergency we were in, there really should be follow-up research to prove their safety and efficacy. If only to provide additional evidence to anti-vaxxers who will argue against it. Even if the threat of Covid is seemingly behind us, who’s to say we’re not right back here in the next 5/10/20 years with the next pandemic that comes?

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      Misinformation works though. Antivaxer are rentlenless and they are always releasing studies to prove their lies. Combine that with social media algorithms that love controversy and this shit gets deadly.

      To put it in perspective, the USA could easily have more people die of covid this year than fentanyl ODs but everyone is acting like the battle is over.

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      It’s about noise. There needs to be more noise made that the vaccines are safe to protect future generations from falling down the same misinformation rabbit holes.

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      There are people who will state internet article’s titles as facts. so it’s good to fight misinformation by information.

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      I like to be optimistic and believe every article erodes their confidence in “alternative medicine”.

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    Totally not true, there’s …. Stuff. Dammit, the only thing I came up with to annoy the person giving me the shot was a one liner about improved 5G reception. And I used it twice: so cringey. Where are all the conspiracy nuts when you need them?

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    Anyone know where I can access the report mentioned? It doesn’t seem to be linked anywhere in the article, nor cited by a searchable name…

    Nvm, found it on the website for Public Health Ontario

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    I need to preface this by saying that I am in no way anti-vaccine, and this has nothing to do with politics.

    But…

    I got my last booster about 3 weeks ago, and I have been messed up ever since. Apparently there is something called Long Vax Syndrome that is currently being studied. Fortunately I don’t have some of the worst symptoms, but the fatigue is so real. Normally when I would get a covid booster I would be exhausted for about 24 hours, but this is unrelenting. I’ve never been this tired in my life, and it’s honestly a struggle. I am really hoping something comes of the research and they figure something out because I don’t know how long I can sustain this.

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      Bless you, how many boosters have you had and do you have any other underlying health issues?

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        So I got my first 2 shots way back when. And I think this is my 3rd booster?

        No underlying health issues but it might be worth noting that I got covid way at the beginning of the pandemic and I was hospitalized for a week. It was the sickest I have ever been in my life. I was sick for 2 weeks before I went to the hospital because back then it was next to impossible to get a test, and it took forever to get results back.

        I don’t know if I’m one of the few that is just voulerable to covid or whatever, and maybe because of that the vaccine has a chance to hite differently? I don’t know. There’s still so much unknown about covid, but I’m really hoping this fatigue clears up because quality of life is way down right now. It’s been very difficult to work and take care of my daughter etc. Driving isn’t safe… It’s not great.

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            Well I never had this after I got covid 3 years ago. So maybe I had some kind of resting long covid that got triggered by the vaccine? But not the other times I got the booster?

            I don’t know. I’m not a doctor or scientist. I’m just really really really tired all the time now.

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      But studies largely shown that the risk of post-vaccine events do not exceed background rates

      sorry mate, guess you were the unlucky one. thanks for your sacrifice o7

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      Same here. Also not ant-vax in general, very much pro-vax for the big three and whatnot. I got 2 vax and a booster willingly, but got sick as a dog all 3 times and missed work each time. The fatigue was crippling. I also got covid twice anyway so thats a bummer, but it wasnt any worse than the post-vax sickness. Maybe the vax reduced the severity of covid, but either way I think Ill pass on getting any more boosters for tbe time being. Ive had plenty of flu vaxes and never had an issue with them.

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        I have no idea why you’re getting downvotes on this. You’re relating your personal experience, and it’s clearly not an anti-vax type answer. Here’s an upvote to help offset that.

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    If this is trying to convince skeptics, it’ll do nothing. They’ll go back to Nancy on Facebook and exclaim how they’re putting 5G crystal-infused microchips into your body to turn you into a sky person. Literally nothing will convince the antivax.

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      My parents were both vaccine skeptics. Covid, and all of public consciousness and education about vaccines, convinced them both that vaccines are important. They got the shot and every booster available. Contrary to the common stereotype of vaccine skeptics, they are both highly educated successful people and when presented with solid evidence that their beliefs were moronic, they changed their thinking. It’s not helpful to be so cynical, because people do change. I see people change their minds about things all of the time. Sometimes for the better and sometimes worse. As long as we remain cynical and unmotivated, the morons win.