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    I still can’t believe The Matrix is from '99. The themes and the effects hold up incredibly well, it feels far more modern.

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      I strongly disagree, Matrix was very much a product of its time, if it had released a decade before or a decade after it would not have had the same impact.

      In the 80s as a general rule people didn’t know of the internet nor were they very computer savvy.

      In the late 00s cellphones started to be ubiquitous and people were using broadband almost exclusively.

      So there was only a small period of time when people were familiar with the idea of telephone lines carrying data, which is a core concept of the movie (exiting the Matrix through your cellphone or laptop is a lot less cool and less prone to plot hooks).

      Not to mention that the 90s were extremely gothic and grimdark about the future. I don’t think a movie that the base premise is in the future humans are enslaved to machines and hooked to a large simulation to keep them from realizing they’re slaves would work in any time period besides the 90s.

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        It’s for sure a product of its time, but it really doesn’t feel like a 1999 movie. Around that time we had

        • Sixth sense
        • American beauty
        • Eyes wide shut
        • Being John Malkovich
        • Fight Club

        Matrix has such a stark level of visual and thematic modernity compared to those. Maybe Fight Club comes near, but the other movies look like they’re from a different decade.

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        There was also that short sliver of the late 90s through early 2000s where the slick black trenchcoat and sunglasses look was considered unironically cool.

        The Matrix, Blade, Underworld, and Equilibrium all being in this era. Any movie where characters dress like this to be cool and it isn’t treated with at least a wink to the audience probably either came from this time or is a sequel to something from this time.

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            I’d think so too, but Columbine shooting was 1999. Movies still used it unironically for another few years. In media I think it mostly went away because it got parodied to death.

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        Agreed with all that, but still, don’t forget how mind blowing it was in 1999. One of the only movies I ever saw twice in the theaters, two nights in a row even.

        Even the trailers were wild. First time we saw one in the theater my gf and I looked at each other like, “What the fuck was that all about?!”

        The Matrix was to science fiction in 1999 about what Star Wars was in 1977, so far ahead of the game it was like nothing before it.

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      It was from the era when choreography mattered. You could roll through an entire fight scene and see what every punch was supposed to be doing. You had some situational awareness where everyone was.

      Now we keep getting that stupid crap where they’re changing the scene every punch, with so many scenes per second that you can’t follow through, actually just like the fight scenes and matrix 4.

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      Holy crap yes, I watched it a few years back and couldn’t belive not only how good it looked but how good it was in general.

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    Clue is an interesting study. It’s a movie set in the 50’s, made in the 80’s, and it bombed in theaters in the 80’s, but the television cut became popular in the 90’s and 00’s. It definitely is a product of the 80’s, I don’t think they would have made it in 1995, but that’s when it landed.

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    The first “War of the world’s” movie from 1953.

    It’s based on a genius, but quite challenging science fiction novel.

    I am sure the people in 1953 liked the movie.

    When you watch it today, after you have already seen Spielberg’s version from 2005, then it feels like they were way ahead of their time in 1953 (and you would never believe anyway that the book was written even back in 1898).

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      One of the many little details I love about that movie is Pacific Tech, the university where scientists studied the alien hardware. I noticed they used that as the name of the college in Real Genius. Apparently it’s has been in many movies and tv shows.

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      I just rewatched both Bladerunner movies with my son and, the first movie, while aesthetically it still looks beautiful and has some great individual scenes, the action and the dialogue get kind of non-sensical at times, it’s become the weaker of the two movies for me. 2049 feels just a lot more coherent and looks brilliant, it’s just an overall better movie that surpasses the original.

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      Blade Runner was very much a product of its time (though Syd Mead’s visuals were outstanding).

      There was something floating in the late seventies / early eighties zeitgeist that would become the cyberpunk genre, and it sort of condensed in several spots simultaneously.

      William Gibson had just published Burning Chrome, and was finishing writing Neuromancer (which would be published in '84 and be considered a foundation of the genre).

      Ridley Scott and Syd Mead independently adapted a (very different from the film) book by Philip K. Dick into a film that looked and felt like it was set in Gibson’s Sprawl.

      In Japan, Kasuhiro Otomo had just begun publishing Akira.

      Frank Miller was probably in the process of writing and conceptualising Rōnin, which DC would start publishing in '83.

      Bruce Bethke had come up with the term cyberpunk in 1980, but that short story wouldn’t be published until '83.

      Over the next few years many other authors would create other works clearly set in the same genre, though at this point they probably had some influence from Gibson and Blade Runner and each other.

      Mike Pondsmith was drinking it all up and coming up with a role playing game with that title, to be published in '88.

      And, all over the eighties and nineties, the genre exploded, and was everywhere.

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    Brick. By Rian Johnson with Joseph-Gordon Levitt and Lukas Haas was very deliberately a throwback to good ol’ hard boiled detective noir.

    I thought it worked quite well. It has an excellent on-foot chase sequence, if nothing else.

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      I listened to the soundtrack for about 4 years before getting around to watching the movie. Very fun. For how slow the build-up is, Playtime is Over is one of my favorite workout songs, always gets the endorphins running.

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      This movie is exactly of its era. Blasting 80s nostalgia that’s been filtered through a neon color grade with a snappy pace is exactly something that would come out in 2016.

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    Jurassic Park 1

    Blade runner 1

    2001: a Space Odyssey

    The Matrix 1

    They all hold up so well and in particular their vfx. In the Matrix it’s probably more the plot than the vfx, even though it had merit coining that frozen up bullet time shot aesthetic. But in general every time I watch these I can’t help but marvel at how well put together they are and then I remember when they were released and then I compare them to the mediocre releases decades after that and yeah. I’m in awe.

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    The Love Witch is a bit of a cheat because it was literally designed to look like it was shot in the 70s (and does an amazing job of it)

    Cube was ahead of its time for bizzare setting and body horror.