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      Sort of. The same game, over and over, each time in a different colour, each time with a higher pixel density, each time a little bit worse.

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      Which is exactly why I stopped playing after Gen 2, which was the peak of the series IMO. If you want to see everything the series has to offer, just play Gold/Silver (or their remakes on the DS). No reason to waste time and money on any other Pokémon game.

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        I kinda agree, but B2/W2 was actually peak Pokémon. You should give those games a go, it’s samey but polished to rubbish-bag shiny perfection.

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        Gen 4 was peak IMO, both the new Pokemon were excellent as well as the best remakes ever made. Gen 4 has Platinum and HeartGold SoulSilver which are the best games in the series.

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        Pokemon Black/White 1 & 2 are as close to that as you want. Great story, amazing songs that i still hum to this day, and the designs are as solid as Gen 1 and 2.

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    Next headline “Hackers disappointed that the hacked source code is apparently just the same as the last 16 games”

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    Good. Couldn’t have happened to a worse company other than Nintendo.

    Now people can verify if Gamefreak’s excuses for not including all Pokemon in each game since the Switch games are real. And verify how low effort their games are.

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      Nintendo aren’t the worst company. Not even the worst gaming company. Not when they have competition like Ubisoft and Warner Brothers and EA and Activision.

      Of course, if it weren’t for the presence of the aforementioned companies, Nintendo would be the worst.

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        I mean they take like 33% of that guy named bowser’s life earnings. Which are severely reduced because they also got him thrown in jail for a felony.

        That’s pretty uniquely evil

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          That’s hardly unique when damages exceed what a person can pay, wage garnishing is actually relatively common.

          Nintendo also gave Gary Bowser a warning and he signed an agreement saying he would stop his illegal activities… and then he continued anyway.

          They gave him an out at no cost and instead he landed himself in prison because he fucked around and found out.

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            I agree that bowser brought the final outcome on himself, however, that does not expunge Nintendo of guilt.

            They continue to collect their 30% or however much it is.

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        As bad as they are, EA isn’t sending lawyers to every fan project that revives their old games, they are just regular greedy, not petty greedy. Ubisoft to this day ignores Rayman Redemption too.

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      Source code is only for HG/SS and B2W2, so we still can’t verify anything about the newer genes

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      That’s probably something a person who has no clue about Pokemon could say. You underestimate how many mechanics older games contain, since like half of them are not obvious for casual players. Although I am not sure about gens newer than IV (Diamond and Pearl is the most recent I’ve played), since I haven’t played them. But most people agree that the best games were around that period (Gen IV, or V), and they only become worse over the years.

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    I mean, people have already created the majority of their good games from scratch so…

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    Love how everyone in the comments are shitting on Nintendo and Game Freak lmao

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      I swear to god, the Lemmy hive mind is even more intense than their predecessor.

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        That’s like whining that everyone hates Blizzard or Ubisoft because of some hive mind mentality. Could it be that maybe it’s just a commonly hated company based off their unethical actions over the last 10+ years?

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          Here’s the difference though: most people outside of Lemmy don’t care about Nintendo’s copyright lawsuits enough that it’s the only thing they talk about whenever they hear the name. The fact that every comment expresses the same thing is the part that feels like a hive mind. Some criticism of a large corporation is one thing, but how strongly Lemmy holds that opinion feels cultish. Blizzard’s leadership protects sex abusers and Ubisoft has had a work culture many describe as nightmarish for decades. Seeing Nintendo put on that level for something not even unique to them makes me think some of you don’t know what nuance or perspective are.

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            I disagree. Nintendo isn’t just some company that has legal beef and comparing their shitiness with Blizzard’s is like comparing apples to oranges.

            Nintendo is a litigious bully and patent troll that has a long, long list of hurting the fans that love their games. They don’t just settle for cease and desists, they historically ruin people’s lives (see Gary Bowser). What feels even worse about Nintendo is the complete misaligned of their product/ brand vs. how they treat fans. You can point to similar companies like Disney and I say that yes, I would happily cheer on any misfortune that comes to them with the same fervor as Nintendo.

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              comparing their shitiness with Blizzard’s is like comparing apples to oranges.

              That’s… what I said.

              My point is supposed to be that Lemmy acts as a though they’re the devil, when in reality they’re just the regular amount of corporate shitty. All of what you said is true, and I’m not trying to convince you it isn’t. It just feels surreal how every comment in here is the same, like it’s the same person behind every username. I get no sense of individuality here, ya know ?

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                But that whole argument follows the logical fallacy “whataboutism” to downplay X because Y and Z also do bad things. Just because you perceive something to be in line with a standard baseline of corporate shitiness doesn’t mean it’s not worth criticizing.

                As for individualism, it’s no secret that lemmy is somewhat left leaning which contributes to the general vibe. From my experience there is a lot more nuance and depth to the discussions that happen here when factoring in population size compared to other similar areas of the internet.

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            No other company aggressively goes after its fans quite like Nintendo does. Nintendo have not only gone after fan projects made by fans showing their love for their beloved games, but also gone after community-run tournaments that in no way affect Nintendo, etc. Nintendo are pretty awful.

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        I know you’re being downvoted, but I had the same thought. I see more outcry over nintendo than other companies. Yes, Nintendo has done bad things, but if I were to go back and browse Reddit I feel like the level of hate on Lemmy is much higher. I have to assume it’s due to the open source nature of Lemmy and it’s ideals.

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        Wow, everyone left another platform and were inspired to leave for the same reason, as a group. Now they’re showing extreme similarities in other ways! When will the madness stop??!

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      Hobbyists have made Pokemon clones in their basement for decades. They never needed the source code.

      If I’m not mistaken, there’s an entire online RPG ran by hobbyists.

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        Maybe this was an intentional leak. Now the Nintendo lawyers can claim they’ve used stolen proprietary code?

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    The people who will be most happy to have it would be the wiimmfi team and the devs running pokemon classic network.

    They can finally see what the implementation of gen 5 ranked battles and game sync was, instead of having to reverse engineer it all.

    Everyone else is probably only interested in asset data, Nintendo switch 2, or finding exploits for homebrew lol.

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      No romhacker or homebrew developer worth their salt will touch any of this. Using leaked material is legally significantly more dangerous than REing. I look forward to seeing the TCRF pages, though.

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      They can’t use this code at all, it would be a surefire way to get the project shut down. Reverse engineering is the only way to operate something like that legally.

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        They can see how it’s done and code their own thing. They don’t have to cut and paste the code, just know how its done.

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          Cleanroom RE is how you prove that’s what you did to a court. The point is to avoid into a courtroom with Nintendo at all, making the point moot.

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    Also design documents like the dude that mated with an octillery lol. The concept of people and pokemon breeding was still referenced in sinoh, but in a way tamer way.

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        This is what made it in, but there are more of those myths that do get pretty dark for this series that was uncovered in that hack, also a beta build of BW.

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      It’s beta builds of old games. It’s only valuable to super fans who wanted to see what could have been.

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    Ive no interest but hopefully there are torrents soon for those who are interested.

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      It’s a huge deal for hardcore fans, but I am overall against these practices, since they are just illegal, period.

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          Why wouldn’t torrenting the source code of proprietary software would be a legal issue? I don’t care of you do it but I’m curious why you only think it’s a moral issue.

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                What did I get flipped?

                Legality vs morality

                Why wouldn’t torrenting the source code of proprietary software would be a legal issue?

                It would be a legal issue. But it’s not a moral issue, which is why so few people are showing sympathy for Nintendo. They lose nothing if someone gets a copy of the code - there’s no victim. They do however have a LONG reputation for weaponizing the legal system by attacking fans with frivolous lawsuits - those DO have a victim, and are therefore a moral issue with Nintendo as the aggressor.

                But regardless of context, again don’t conflate legality with morality. Ever. History is absolutely stuffed with atrocities that adhere to established law, that doesn’t make those atrocities okay. Videogame code is pretty minescule compared to legal attrocities like slavery or the holocost etc, but point remains that the law in-and-of-itself doesn’t mean shit.

                Also fuck Nintendo.

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                  @[email protected] showed me where I was confused. I thought YOU were calling this a moral issue; I just understood your comment wrong.

                  I am well aware of how Nintendo treats emulator devs, game modders, organizations that make better games in the same genre, and full blown ROM distribution websites exactly the same even though only one of these groups of people are breaking any laws.