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    I feel dirty saying good things about Sarah Palin, but she was brought on to fire up the base and did just that. Vance has managed to alienate the base. I don’t think the incels even like him at this point.

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        Always amazed people like him are right wing. Money won’t save you when the government can just take it from you and send people to kill you because they don’t like who you are

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          He thinks he’ll flee to NZ or wherever before the Repubs are able to put him against the wall.

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          Sure it can…the following book is about that and nonfiction. They want bunkers in New Zealand and shit. Crazy story but basically they do think their money can save them, so they have no incentive to act in any way other than selfish. And maybe they can “buy” the government, like Thiel with Vance and all the millions he gave him to run for Senate.

          If the person with the most money wins the apocalypse, then their one objective in life is to become richer and richer and richer. It’s a fascinating yet horrifying rabbit hole to go down but it does help to explain their fucked up actions.

          Survival of the Richest, Douglas Rushkoff

          Five mysterious billionaires summoned theorist Douglas Rushkoff to a desert resort for a private talk. The topic? How to survive the “Event”: the societal catastrophe they know is coming. Rushkoff came to understand that these men were under the influence of The Mindset, a Silicon Valley–style certainty that they and their cohort can break the laws of physics, economics, and morality to escape a disaster of their own making—as long as they have enough money and the right technology.

          In Survival of the Richest, Rushkoff traces the origins of The Mindset in science and technology through its current expression in missions to Mars, island bunkers, AI futurism, and the metaverse.

          Here is a podcast where he talks about it, sorry for Apple podcast link; the episode website itself doesn’t seem to exist anymore:

          https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-are-not-so-smart/id521594713?i=1000631377648

          He’s been on lots of them, so search his name on your favorite app for more, but I recommend the above Episode 207 of You are Not So Smart.

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    Sarah Palin was like a dog that peed on themselves because they’re an idiot. Vance is like a dog that bites their owner because they’re an idiot. Sure, Palin was dumb, but Vance is a real threat to all Americans.

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    Palin alienated anyone vaguely in the middle, but on the other hand she had at least some particular support that she brought distinct from McCain (basically Tea Party folks that were not particularly excited by establishment republican nor McCain).

    Vance doesn’t have any particular support, he only gets indirect support for people who are “republican no matter what” or “MAGA all the way”, but those people were already covered by Trump. Even in his own state his margin of victory was much slimmer than the other republicans that swept Ohio in 2022, and Ohio’s not even a state considered to be a risk to Trump’s campaign.

    He was just a tremendously bad choice with no strategic benefit. The VP pick should somehow provide some coverage for demographics not hit by the presidential candidate, and Trump instead went with someone with very limited popularity that is a strict subset of people already supporting Trump.

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      True, he only brings the few techno autocrats. Though that does bring money (though some of that money, like Elon’s, would have gone there anyway).

      But he was picked because he’d do what Vance wouldn’t and overthrow the election.

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        he’d do what Vance wouldn’t and overthrow the election

        Pence, Vance, shitty Underpants…
        same, same but different…

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      She also brought in the evangelicals because she was one of them. And she had the same false piety the other evangelical darlings have.

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      I don’t agree completely. A lot of us were scared that old man McCain would win and die in office.

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          True, although he also had a history of cancer and other medical issues and cancer was what finally killed him. Being president ages you a lot unless you’re lazy as fuck like Trump. McCain was a lot of things, but lazy was not one of them. I think there was a decent chance he wouldn’t have survived his first term.

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      Palin at least gave grist for porn (nalin’ Palin). Furniture porn was hilarious before Vance, is still funnier without humans.

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    Considering that Vance’s biggest accomplishment so far is writing a best-selling book, in which he cosplays as a poor person while trashing rural Americans, this about checks out.

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      I think there’s a fun bit of linguistics there. If you say more unpopular it implies that both are unpopular and one is even more so. If you say less popular, it implies that they are both popular, but one is to a lesser degree.

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        For me, less popular would also include people who are indifferent about them, just less people exited. Doesn’t necessarily mean that people really dislike them.

        More unpopular seems to me there are more people who are actively against them, dislike them.

        I can be not popular, without being unpopular at all.

        But english isn’t my native or main language, so…