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      Between my birthday of 1/1/1901 and unlicensed game inheritance, shit is going to go down in the next 50 years. We’ll have AI legal reps for powerful firms requesting a statement of all software licenses by the deceased, challenging them, and then having a court order the rest null.

      I hate that I will be right about that.

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      Will valve allow accounts to exist indefinitely? Will they create an expiration policy, like accounts being closed after 100 years

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    Oh I didn’t own my steam account it was created for my future children. it’s a trust.

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      Lol. That’s hilarious. But unfortunately you never owned the games in the first place. You rented the privilege to play the game for life?..life of the rental company or your life only? Oh man, we gotta go thru the small print on this.

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        “Add to Cart”, “Continue Shopping”, “Purchase for myself”, “Purchase as a gift”, “Purchase”.

        Who knows, one day a court may find these terms could lead people into believing they’re buying a game and force some companies to allow us to to trade or resell them (an EU court most probably).

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          Purchased should mean what it means for other things like cars or apples…you get a copy of an apple via a purchase and you are guaranteed to be able to use that apple in any manner you please. So for example, you could eat it, ferment it, store it in resin for posterity and for future humans to recreate it. There aren’t any limits to a purchase. So I agree, maybe we need ask the supremes of the supreme court if purchasing means different things. So if I purchase sex from a prostitute legally in Las Vegas, does that prostitute need to specifically state what activities I will own? Or if I go to Costco and buy a fried chicken, does Costco need to specifically state that the chicken is not just a rental but a final exchange between you and Costco, money for dead poultry. More relatable, a screw driver from home Depot, that thing will last a few uses, so do you still own it if home Depot goes down? Can you still rotate screws with it?

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            Software can be both a product and a service:

            • it’s a product when running on my computer (i.e. the game)
            • it’s a service when running on their computer (i.e. providing the hosting for downloading, multiplayer client-server hosting).


            The issue preventing one practically enacting on software is that copyright defaults to preventing you redistributing it, and you need the source code to be able to modify (fully). Thankfully some games are free software/open source when you can act on your ownership.

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              So that should be “I purchased a game” when you got a detached product that is functional forever… unless the makers make a deal with Microsoft to fuck it up on the next illegally forced update or with Nvidia to change the next card such that it is unplayable.

              And it should be “I purchased…I subscribed to this online game” when you know that shit is not yours, so don’t expect it to last.

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                That would at least be more honest… from my perspective anyway. The games industry has done this for so long that this is the norm for generatations who grew up with consoles being online - this is “purchasing” to some as words have usages and not inate meaning.

                It would be better if they just stopped doing that but you get more money that way.

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          “yes, you made a purchase. But what you purchased were tickets. Tickets to specific rides at a theme park. You did not buy the rides. You bought tickets for the rides. Those tickets are valid for your personal use. If you are not the one using them, they are not to be used.” –Their argument in court probably.

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            You can resell Windows CD keys legally in the EU as the courts rejected the “only for you” part of the argument: invalidating that part of the EULA. I probably have the right to resell my Steam game tickets.

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        I understand for the life of the company. But it’s not even my steam account. It’s my child’s who’s currently -5 years old (give or take). I did create it on their behalf a decade ago to redeem the free games on their behalf and gift them games I think they’ll enjoy.

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    Do they check? Or can i just give my password to my homie in a letter

    "Dear homie,

    if you are reading this, it means that i’m on the long path to meet with master Kaio to train my ass off to death in the afterlife. Until we meet again, this is my user and pass of my steam account.

    PS: i didn’t bought the porno VR games. Someone gifted them to me.

    Your bro in eternity,

    Siegfried"

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      Bro, but what about the credit card receipt for porno VR games, signed by Siegfried? What about the warranty card for the porno VR games, filled out by Siegfried? What about the book “Porno VR Games and Me (This Sort of Thing is my Bag, Baby!)” by Siegfried?

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        You just keep the wishlist private and zero it out. You got the answers to those questions. That’s private info your bro rusted you to die with.

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    “And to my son, I bequeath my steam account - user is blah and password is blah”

    Checkmate steam

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      The article goes into that and states password sharing is against the Eula so technically they can kick you off the service if they find out… IF they find out wink wink

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        Old and busted: Pretending someone’s alive for their Social Security check

        New hotness: Pretending someone’s alive for their Steam account

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          4 generations later: “I’ve inherited my father’s steam account just as he inherited it from his father and so on. The library has grown ever larger, and yet so many remain untouched. The summer sales have sustained my forefathers and yet I feel hollow. Each year, more games are added to this historic account, but each year brings more regret as the purchases go untouched. I shall make a promise to myself: finish the extensive library, honor my family, complete the library. But first, some more Counter Strike.”

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    Who’s notifying Valve someone with an account has died? Link the dead person’s account to a steam family and enjoy the inheritance.

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        You’re account is tied to an email address, you just give the email address as well.

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      If you will a steam account to someone, there is a chance that there are disputes/claims for the account that need to be settled in court.

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      The interesting question is what happens if Valve is still around after all of us are long gone and there are millions of 150+ year old accounts, many under active use?

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    Assuming that the world continues to exist in a way that lets me have a steam account at the time of my natural lifespans average end (another… 46 years):

    My steam library grows at a slower rate than my mass storage has, and I’m quite confident that one will be able to fit my entire steam library as it currently is on a normal and affordable drive in at most 15 years.

    With those two facts in play I can remain confident in my ability to crack everything I own (assuming I even want everything) and safely store it for at-will passing down to as many people as I want.

    But thanks for the reminder to not blindly trust you, Valve. Always useful to have those.

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      give your kids your first name. that way they can verify it forever and so on as long as they keep the tradition and last name alive.

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      Less about enforcement than ease of transfer. If I’ve got a Steam account and you’ve got a Steam account and I die, Steam won’t let you transfer the licenses from my account to yours. You just have to maintain two independent accounts now - accounts with 2-factor authentication that you also have to maintain (so second cell numbers and emails, etc).

      Steam will simply let the administrative burden of juggling extra accounts take these licenses out of the pool.

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      Does steamworks not have a notion of a parent organization or enterprise? That’s what most other design and development tools do.

      If someone leaves, the parent enterprise remains, and new people can be added to the enterprise and can be granted rights over the content.

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    Seems like a shitty hill to die, sacrificing entire generations of family remaining on your platform over old obsolete games on a subscription service. Tell me the video game industry is stale without telling me the video game industry is stale.