• juiceclaws@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    The current state of capitalism will ensure the second line never sees the light of day

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      9 months ago

      We can already create enough abondance that no human starves, sleep outside or can’t affotd medical treatment. Still look at the world.

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    9 months ago

    Abundance is already here, tons of food are destroyed and thrown out when they accidentally make too much while people are starving, there’s no money in abundance, it’s the artificial lack of supply that keeps prices high and profits soaring.

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      9 months ago

      Food isn’t the only resource in the equation. Most of the resources are limited and even diminishing.

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        9 months ago

        I agree but I think their point was more along the lines of “Even if we have complete abundance of everything (as in, the capabilities to produce anything in abundance), capitalists will continue to create artificial lack of supply to continue profiting off of the workers. For example, look at the food abundance we have”

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          9 months ago

          capitalists will continue to create artificial lack of supply

          I think it’s not that, but just:

          capitalists won’t spend their money to create logistical chains for free.

          “Collect and distribute supply” won’t do itself, someone should do that. And noone will do that for free

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    9 months ago

    The first paragraph? Can’t say I disagree.

    Second paragraph? Delusional. Or actively deceitful. Given Altman’s background, I’m leaning toward the second.

    • DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world
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      9 months ago

      Well, I am convinced we currently have no idea how an AGI could be made. It shouldn’t be a HW issue since it is possible to have a human brain worth of computing power in a small cluster. So it could be near impossible or we may be one great shower thought away, there is no way to know.

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    9 months ago

    An issue with this tweet is that we already have the capacity to do a lot. We have the technology to provide healthy and diverse diets for the entire planet and fit a cities worth of farming inside a few city blocks (vertical hydroponics/aeroponics). We have the ability to create electricity in a dozen different renewable ways. We have the ability to desalinate water creating nearly infinite fresh water, we have enough square footage in the world to easily house everyone. We have stellar education systems that we could hand out to the entire world.

    Why don’t we do it? Well, all these things cost money. But the issue is, there also exists staggering amounts of money across the world. The panama papers revealed just a fraction of the wealth being hoarded by just a fraction of the wealthiest people in the world (and most implicated in the panema papers weren’t even too crazy, like soccer stars and business owners). There’s exists tens to hundreds of trillions of dollars of wealth created by the world just floating around in billionaires bank accounts and in the coffers of world powers.

    So it’s not an issue of abundance coming in the near future, we have it here on earth right now.

    • misspacfic@lemm.ee
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      9 months ago

      exactly.

      many of the mundane atrocities being committed every day are deliberate choices in service of capital rather than people.

      you know, health insurance companies, etc.

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    9 months ago

    Every rich tech bro has convince themselves they are the savior of the world.

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    9 months ago

    Great… And and will this abundance be shared or hoarded for profit like everything else that is abundant already is?

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    9 months ago

    If we means the human race, it’s absolutely true. There’s just no mention of a timeline.

  • RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world
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    Sure. Just need to get a bunch of trillions hoarded away by billionaires and throw it at R&D to solve these problems and I bet it would happen.

    These rich fuckers making proclamations like that yet somehow still expecting someone else to pay for the solutions.