Passenger sees Boeing 757-200 “wing coming apart” mid-air — United flight from San Francisco to Boston makes emergency landing in Denver::A United Airlines flight to Boston was diverted to Denver because of an issue with the plane’s wing.

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    “Sitting right on the wing and the noise after reaching altitude was much louder than normal. I opened the window to see the wing looking like this,” user octopus_hug wrote. "How panicked should I be? Do I need to tell a flight crew member?

    Holy shit, redditors are a special breed. Yes, you should probably tell someone.

    I should go and find the comment.

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      Now, all the AI are going to wonder how panicked they should be if their plane disassembled mid-flight

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    What the fuck is going on at Boeing? Are they cutting that many corners?

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      This occurred on a 29 year old plane. This is almost certainly just a one-off issue. Unless it starts happening frequently with other 757s, it’s nothing to be overly concerned about. And in that case, the NTSB would figure out why it’s happening and issue a directive.

      Planes are designed on a “Swiss cheese” model. Swiss cheese (as Americans call any variety resembling Emmental) is full of holes, but you can’t usually see all the way through a block of it. On a plane, something might fail and you can’t always prevent that, but you can make sure that there is enough redundancy that if something does go wrong you’re still covered. For something to cause a plane to crash, the “holes” have to line up so something could pass all the way through the “cheese.”

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          This “one-off” issue was spotted on dozens of 737s.

          This issue with a damaged wing slat on this particular 29-year-old 757 was spotted on dozens of 737s? Do you have a source for that?

          Unless you’re confusing this with the 737 MAX 9 door plug issue. That is not a one-off, that is a manufacturing/assembly issue. And that’s my point. The door plug situation is a systemic problem on many brand new planes, whereas this story is about a relatively small issue on a 29-year-old plane.

          Something being damaged on a 757 shouldn’t shake people’s confidence in Boeing. Shit going wrong in the design and manufacturing of the 737 MAX series should.

    • pulaskiwasright@lemmy.ml
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      10 months ago

      I wish the article said how old the plane is. A lot of Boeing jets are 50+ years old and at that point, you have to blame the airline. But this article doesn’t say.

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        At least in Europe, passengers jets are new because more fuel efficient at the “normal” speed. These old jets are then transformed in cargo where they go very slow so fuel efficiency goes up by other means (and the old jet is way cheaper).

        This was a passenger plane so i doubt it was anywhere close to 50 years old

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      Nothing for this case at least.

      It’s completely unrelated to Boeing per se. Likely a maintenance issue, maybe repair done wrong.

    • SendMePhotos@lemmy.world
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      Eh, idk if plane age really matters. They are completely disassembled and reassembled per standard every year to ensure that they are good to go.

      Student planes are like 1960s, give or take.

      E: I’m being told by comments that they do not do teardowns. Idk. I fly planes, not work on them. My CFIs have told me they do annual teardowns. So… Idk. Maybe, maybe not?

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        It does matter. Shows this is more a maintenance issue than a defect in the model.

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        They are absolutely not “completely disassembled every year.” Where do you people come up with this stuff?

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          My FBO/CFIs said that they teardown the airplanes every annual to every nut and bolt. I applied that and assumed that meant the big ones, too.

        • Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works
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          They’re just plain facts. Did you know that the pilots each have to take a shit before they board? The airlines force them to do it, to conserve on fuel.

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        No the FUCK they’re not

        There are inspections and flight worthiness manuals. Nobody is going to complete tear down a fucking jet and bolt it together again, that’s literally less secure.

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        You should read what’s done in an annual. For GA, aopa had a good article recently talking about doing the right maintenance because doing everything your AP suggests may be more intrusive and less healthy for the plane. It’s not as aggressive you’re claiming.

        Also as others note, age matters in determining where the issue came from. Eg this almost certainly isn’t a Boeing issue.

        As a new pilot I really recommend watching the show Mayday Aircraft Investigations, it’s very informative. The accidents are for commercial aircraft, but still I think seeing all the details and the root causes and breakdown in process is enlightening even as a private pilot.

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          Thanks, I’ll check it out. My exp. with flying was… I was in school for commercial aviation. I think I made it 2 years in? Got my PPL and was making my way through instrument before I made a life decision to buy a house for my family. I could either afford school or the house, but not both.

          I love aviation and flying is the single greatest thing in the world to me… Besides my family.

          The air safety institute videos are a great watch, too. Also check out Lucaas, Captain Joe, or 74 gear for more aviation videos.

    • gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works
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      But also, even though they’re older, they’re still loved by pilots and are good in difficult conditions because they’re pretty over-engined

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      This particular plane is 29 years old.

      That said, commercial airliners can go for decades just fine as long as they are maintained properly. Newer planes will be more efficient and have some newer features, but a tried-and-true airframe that has been well maintained is worth keeping around.

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      Holy cow. My sisters VW Beetle did this once, too. It was quite fresh out of inspection/repair, and whatever those guys did to the motor, they forgot to pull the screws tight again…

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    10 months ago

    So with airlines needing bailouts, price gouging, and cost cutting affecting safety, maybe bring back the CAB era laws?

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    Did they see it coming apart and say nothing to the crew?

    E: another passenger did. Apparently not the clowns that had to get firsties posting to social media.