This is a question of passive income vs active.
Passive is king. You breath when you sleep. When you get too old to walk, you still breath.
The average human takes 20000 breaths per day. For comparison, the average American take 4700 steps a day so steps actually win since the break even point is around 4000 steps.
Jesus, I range anywhere from 9-15k steps every day. I guess I’ll take steps.
Same here. I’ll take steps and in 10 years I’ll be set up to make more than the breathers even if I become a paraplegic.
For anyone curious (1000000/50)/12 is 1666.66 which is how many years you would have to live to make a million dollars.
Whoever thought that $50 a month is any sort of good income is brain dead.
Also should be noted, if you took that 1 mil and just put it in a bunch of high-interest savings accounts, you’d be averaging a little over $3k/month just in the interest earned.
It does make me wonder, at what point is the guaranteed $x a month a better call than one lump 1 mil?
You don’t need a degree in finance to do this calculation. You are simply looking for the present value of a stream of income.
It depends on what interest rate you think is “risk free”. Right now treasuries range from 5% to 3%. Just divide the yearly dividend (12 * 50) by that interest rate. $50 per month risk-free in perpetuity is worth $12,000 to $20,000.
Put it in safe low-interest investments and you’ll likely still be making far more than $50/month
When you get too old to walk, you still breath.
But you should already be filthy rich at that point, so who cares 🤷♂️ the choice is largely irrelevant after a few years and, regardless of which option you choose, you should be well into the millions after a decade.
Steps let me build up actual wealth over the course of just a year or two. Breathing keeps me comfy my whole life, but I can’t be really wasteful for a few years.
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I have tthe benefit of a smart watch, so I know my stats quite well. Over the long term, I average 13 breaths per minute, or 18,720 breaths per day. That translates into $936 per day. When not injured, I average 22,000 steps per day, which would get me $5500 per day (currently injured, so no running, so I’m down to 12,000 steps or $3000 per day). Breathing would win only if I averaged fewer than 3744 steps per day. I think I get more just walking to my corner newsagent and back.
You would also have an incentive to walk more so even if you’re normally very sedentary, you wouldn’t be after taking the deal.
It’s unfortunate that it’s steps and not based on calories or something, I do cardio but mostly resistance training. Can’t afford to lose gains or have to increase my food intake.
bruh, you don’t lose gains by walking, Dr.Mike form Rennessaince Periodization literally recommends walking as one of the best forms of increasing your calories burned without excess hunger or fatigue
increasing your calories burned without excess hunger or fatigue
That’s my point, your goals for exercise are to burn more calories, calories that my body needs to rebuild muscle. If I do more cardio I have to eat more food to maintain my muscle mass. I’m not worried about too many I’m worried about having too few.
but walking doesn’t make you lose muscle mass, nor is it cardio.
If the calories burned are greater than those I can consume to maintain my body weight (currently about 3000kcal/day) then yes it will make me lose weight.
Also yes it is cardio, or it wouldn’t be good exercise. It’s not HIIT or running, but it consumes energy and calories.
Do you fundamentally misunderstand the concept of calories in versus calories out? If my body needs more calories than I’m eating it will harvest muscle to do so. I’ve been lifting weights for over a decade and diet is just as big of a factor in gaining muscle versus lifting itself, this isn’t something new to me.
Also yes it is cardio, or it wouldn’t be good exercise. It’s not HIIT or running, but it consumes energy and calories.
Cardio is a shorthand for cardiovascular, if you do normal paced walking it doesn’t challenge your cardiovascular system therefore it’s not cardio.
If the calories burned are greater than those I can consume to maintain my body weight (currently about 3000kcal/day) then yes it will make me lose weight.
you said lose muscle, which it doesn’t do, in your scenario you are losing muscle because of insufficient calorie intake, not because of “doing cardio”, there is no extra effect from walking that would have you lose muscle other than burning some calories, which is what “losing muscle” means
you can just eat a handful of almonds and you will replenish all that you walked away.
13k steps.
If im getting 2500 a day, 1800 after tax im good.
More time to walk to get junk food too.
I don’t really care what makes more money, id just take the walking one to incentivise me to walk more. id rather be healthy than slightly richer
You only need 4-5k steps a day for it to be more money, which is pretty doable for most people. Of course, that would make getting your 10k steps in per day worth about $300k excess, which is a pretty compelling incentive
How are we even defining steps? If I shuffle around my living room like a penguin for a minute, do I earn $20?
Cashier: You are 5 dollars short
You: starts hyperventilating
This is the absolute easiest question. If you ever get this, the answer is steps. Get your 10k steps a day, or even 20k if you’re feeling frisky. Get in shape, buy some nice walking or running shoes, and invest the massive difference between walking and what breathing would get you.
Once you reach a good level invested, you’re functionally able to retire and never even take another step. Your investments will cover everything.
Anyone who says breath doesn’t realize the sheer difference steps can make.
But what if I choose breath n do cardio everyday? Wouldn’t my number of breaths increase a lot during that time while also keeping me healthy?
Yes, but you wouldn’t make nearly as much money. You have to breathe 5 times per step to break even.
As your cardiovascular system improves, you typically take fewer, larger breaths at rest, so improving your ability to breath reduces the number of steps you’ll typically take. On the other hand, most people become able to walk more steps after walking consistently.
Unless you’re handicapped, bedridden, very old, or otherwise prevented by health related circumstances from doing so, you can make more with steps.
Yep forgot to factor that in lmao
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But if you get an unlucky leg injury, you are out of income at least temporarily. So breathing for mea, even if it’s less money
If you can’t take advantage of the huge increase in income steps have over breaths, then that’s more of a budgeting problem. It’s incredibly easy to pay off your home and have a huge chunk of emergency funds available even if you get injured if you average 5000+ dollars a day with steps.
According to my quick random search* a normal persons breaths 20k times a day, which equals US$ 1k
In order to achieve that with steps, i would need 4k steps, which is practically nothing
But how many more times do you breath IF you’re walking 4k steps a day?
Average breaths per minute is about 15. You’re not breathing much harder just walking than you are sitting around.
Getting 5000 steps a day is trivial for most people who can walk. I average around 7200 and that would get me 650k per year.
- Choose steps
- Don’t pay taxes on them
- Taxman wants money
- I run away
- Taxman chases me
- Each step I run, I owe more money
Let’s say you walk 10,000 steps a day. That’s $2500 per day. Sounds like a lot right? How long would it take you to become a billionaire? 400,000 days or just under 1100 years. That’s for 1 billion dollars. Bezos is worth 192.4 billion… Billionaires should not exist and the world would be better off if we ate them.
Not for us. We’d be full of gross billionaire flesh. Ew.
You’ve got a point. Maybe we should feed them to tigers or something
making money by sleeping? Fuck yeah
breath! I breathe while I am asleep, case closed.
Average 18 breaths a minute 60 minutes an hour 24 hours in a day
$1296
You make more if you walk more than 5184 steps a day. Which you probably do
Nope but you can’t do wheelies so I’ll call it even.
Bold of you to assume I walk that much
I average 6k and am very sedentary 😬
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The monkey’s paw will break my legs. I’ll take the breaths.
Granted, you are now a rock
This is fine. No more mental burden, or at least I’m dead.
Reject modernity, become rock
If there’s a money’s paw in play you better pick walking. Monkey’s pawing breathing is guaranteed bad time, if not dead time.
I chose breathing:
Money’s Paw: it feels like you’re breathing through a straw forever now.
I just want enough money to be comfortable. I’ll take the breaths option for the free low effort money.
Considering my fitness tracker shows I took 121k steps in January, and the average breaths of 12 per minute, I’d have made 30k in January. 5k more than just breathing. Assuming a resting heart rate, breathing faster because of exercise is not a factor I can quantify
so it’s about 20% more for walking based on those numbers.
i would definitely take the breathing! there’s been too many times i couldn’t walk, that’s only going to increase as i age.
imagine getting in a bad car crash the day after starting the walking deal, both legs are broken. now, you are broke two ways! it’s like adding insult to injury. that would be the worst feeling in the world.
when it comes down to “enough money to never need to work” vs “enough money to never need to work +20%, with extra risk if you get injured” i’ll take the safe bet every time
That’s true it’ll pay you till the day you die. And any kind of exercise will increase your breath rate
Also, your descendants can keep you hooked up to a ventilator to infinite money glitch.
My exercise induced asthma says fuck you to either choice I make.
How is this so relatable
