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Please note that the official title of the article is:
Yevgeny Prigozhin: Wagner chief presumed dead after Russia plane crash.
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The whole thing is sus:
- Prigozhin stages a march onto Moscow
- Putin runs away to St Petersburg, where a couple vans full of allegedly Prigozhin’s money get found, so he just stops short of Moscow and turns around
- Prigozhin runs away to Belarus, Wagner to split between “core” in Belarus and the rest getting incorporated into Russia’s military
- Russia blocks food export from Ukraine, holds a conference with African countries where it promises to send food
- Niger sees a military coup, asks for Wagner help, Russia agrees, Prigozhin releases video of himself in Africa
…just a couple days later…
- Prigozhin in a private plane over Russia, north of Moscow, in route to St Petersburg, crashes and dies along with other Wagner leadership
…wait, what? How? Why? Wasn’t he just in Africa, and not welcome in Russia?
You know you can rename posts with clickbait titles right? Maybe just ask the user to rename and kick or ban him if he does not comply.
I did message him, bot no response as of yet.
While the article is named that, his death has been confirmed by the Russian government and afaik the genetic samples are being analysed
As of this moment, there is no credible news source that confirms with 100% certainty that he’s dead. It’s likely, but not confirmed.
When making claims like this, always provide your source.
Quite literally the FAVT(FAVT.gov.ru) telegram channel https://t.me/favt_ru/1278. They have the channel linked on the website😐
FAVT(FAVT .gov.ru ) telegram channel
So… any credible sources?
“🤓”
Anyway, then what’s more credible than an official source who’s been literally fearing this old smart ass man? Make a realistic example
I think you might could a word… I’m really not sure what you mean. 🤨
What’s more credible than an official source that happens to hate and fear prigozhin
Wow, I’ve been browsing Twitter, Reddit and Lemmy for the past few hours. I’m surprised to see such breaking news first in Lemmy instead of Twitter or Reddit.
Awesome! Hope the Fidiverse keeps on growing to become bigger than Reddit and Twitter.
Good point. Really good sign for users if we can get breaking news stories here like this.
literally the only reason i keep going to reddit to sort by rising every now and then.
I think it’s only a matter of time. The enshitification of reddit is guaranteed, it’s really inevitable and it’s going to keep getting worse. Long live the Fediverse!
I saw it first on YouTube and got really mad about that
Who would have expected this? Surprised pikachu
But the only one who opposed Putin (with any military power) being dead isn’t necessary a good thing (imho)
Yeah, but he was stripped of all of his power. Wagner group is being rolled into the state military. The opportunity for Wagner to push back and or give Putin the boot has passed.
And, this dude was also an evil corrupt piece of shit. If he overthrew Putin, Russia would’ve still been an authoritarian disinformation state.
He was a straight-up Neo-Nazi and named the group after Hitler’s favorite composer. So yeah, he would have been infinitely worse than Putin… and that’s saying something.
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Yeah but a guy with a Stalin pfp told me Ukrainians are the real Nazis /s
This baffles me. That anyone would idolize Nazism is baffling, but particularly Russians. I mean does nobody remember Stalingrad?
Anything you hear from Russia, you can just as well forget, it’s nothing but propaganda, lies, spin, and disinformation. They use Nazi guys like Wagner to fight what they call “Nazis” in Ukraine. It’s the “we fake it so hard that people couldn’t believe it someone would lie that bad” tactic. Never engage with Russia / Russians who aren’t publicly opposed to Putin and the status quo. You can only waste time.
Wagners are straight up fleeing into neighboring countries and Africa. They must have read the history books about what happens when one warlord assimilates another’s forces (they kill them quietly and easily now that they’re disarmed).
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Seems like most reasonable folks didn’t think he’d reform Russia. The only “good” he’d cause would be unrest that would force Russia to pull out of invading their democratic neighbors.
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Good thing for Africa for sure.
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It’s not like Putin and his closest cronies are in any way competent. They are removing anyone who dared to criticize. Before the coup Prigozhin, Girkin were allowed to say whatever they wanted as long as they did not undermine the general effort. Now Putin’s inner circle will ultimately disconnect themselves from reality: govern the country and the war from a bunker filled with scared yes-sayers with no alternative voices.
Damn I was hoping he would be able to cause more chaos inside Russia before Putin had him killed.
That window of opportunity closed. Wagner got folded into the state military.
No window is ever closed in russia
Makes it easier to
push peopleaccidentally fall out of.Harder to push people out of a closed window.
They have windows in the basement?
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You sly dog lol
All that means is that Wagner has infiltrated the Russian military… while pooty might get lucky and get a few knuckleheads, trust and believe the hardcore of the hardcore have gone to ground and are dead set on putting Vlad’s head on a pike
The guy wasn’t stupid. He knew going against Putin meant death if he failed. At some point during his attempted coup, he realised it wasn’t going to work and was faced with a choice: die now, or “back down” to scheme his way out of an almost certain death later. Turns out he couldn’t. ¯\_༼ •́ ͜ʖ •̀ ༽_/¯ Oh well, nothing of value was lost.
I have nothing to add to your comment other than the fact that your text person clearly has a large nose and I think that’s a stylistic choice and I appreciate that as someone who also has a large nose.
Oh, and fuck Putin.
consider yourself rewarded for that comment … thx for the smile
I’m not sure he couldn’t have done it if he’d kept driving into Moscow. The defenses of the city were just in shambles. Almost as bad as Denmark in 1940.
However, having tucked tail he should have known better than to come back.
Now there are rumors that Wagner would stage a second coup attempt if the deaths were confirmed (which they are now).
That would be a complete suicide mission now. 2500%.
Still, interesting times.
Yeah, there’s pretty much no chance with the leaders dead, their camp far from Moscow, no surprise factor, and the potential allies like Surovikin pushed from power. It seems like Putin has completely outplayed them.
At some point during his attempted coup, he realised it wasn’t going to work
When was that, exactly? Putin fled, reserve forces were standing by and not fighting Wagner, and he was a day out from an undefended Moscow. Worst case scenario was a protracted civil war, but he still would’ve lived longer than this.
Honestly, none of this makes sense. The fact that he aborted in the first place makes the idea that he was conspiring with Putin the whole time to flush out disloyal elements within the Russian armed forces seem credible… but then why kill him after? I’m not ruling out the possibility that either this was a genuine accident, or it was another false flag and he and his second in command just faked their own deaths.
Couldn’t he go hide in like Central America or something? Though I suppose Russian intelligence would still find him and get to him.
Maybe he could hide on the South Pole of the moon.
Hey Putin! I heard Trump talking shit about you.
The whole Western political apperatus has been saying Putin doesn’t have the guts to release any of the compromat he holds on them and that he needs them more than they need him.
World’s most expected accident victim.
I’m surprised anybody was getting in vehicles with him after the coup attempt.
I know right? Wtf??? I wouldn’t want to be caught dead within 50 square miles of this guy after his coup attempt.
and caught dead, they were
but his tea is amazing. it’s quite hot.
Thank you for flying Prigozihn Airlines. We know you have a choice in airline, and today you chose the wrong one.
I wonder if there is a correlation between drop height and importance of the persons he’s killing.
Oh that’s why I fell over my kids’ toys. I’m unimportant but it WAS Putin!
dude, wtf? That literally happened to me today. I was bringing my kid a bowl of strawberries when I stepped right on top of a little toy house. Me on the floor. Strawberries all over the place. And all my kid could say was “wow, that was scary,” and then went back to playing. Savage.
Your kid is metal af
4 year olds, man. They’re ruthless.
Great, so we already have two data points now!
time to interpolate
Insert “I like to extrapolate” meme here
EXPONENTIAL
Here’s hoping he had a dead man’s switch that releases tons of kompromat.
Well, Navalny didn’t fall, but Putin attemped to poison him
He didn’t want to birth a martyr
To think he avoided drinking polonium tea and falling out of a window and self inflicted gunshot wound to the head for all this time just to die in a freak tragic accident.
Reports are that Moscow’s anti-air fired on the jet… “accidentally.”
Really? Got a source for that?
I haven’t reviewed the veracity myself, I never do until the dust settles. It’s usually a waste of time unless you’re directly impacted.
Right, definitely a total “accident” How very sad, comrade. If only the pilot had checked for leaking oil lines on the motors before takeoff…
I love how anyone who is against Putin always gets into “accidents”
He also avoided Novice. Lucky him.
Plane must have accidentally ran into a surface-to-air missile. Y’know, as you do.
Classic MH17’d
He should have gone all the way when he started the mutiny against Putin. He would be dead either way but at least he had the chance to take Hitler’s disciple with him to hell.
Their MO is to threaten family members, threaten subordinates family members, etc.
Somehow I doubt Russia would have been better off with Prighozhin in charge. I mean he was the one who did Putins dirty work for him.
His fate was sealed when he (very briefly) went up against Putin. Right then and there he had a target on his head.
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His officers thought his odds weren’t good and wouldn’t back him, is the word on the street. Top guy gets killed, not levels 2/3
IIRC his officers’ families were threatened and they forced him to back down. I could be mistaken
Yeah that was such a bizarre series of events.
Yep. This was always going to happen. There’s no way he didn’t know this was going to happen.
If you swing on the king, you’d better not miss. He missed.
A blind man could have seen that coming.
He survived the last plane crash he was in by boy actually being on the plane. I assume there’s a chance it’s happened again.
So he releases a video of himself in Africa. Then a plane with his name on the roster flies from Belarus to Moscow gets shot down. Anyone know if any planes belonging to Wagner flew from Africa to Belarus recently? This might be trick.
Yeah my wife is convinced he wasn’t on the plane and this is subterfuge. I think Putin had him shot down to make a point, as he’s done with pretty much every other real threat he’s encountered.
We may never know…
How do you know when the video from Africa was filmed? Also, if it’s really Africa?
I just heard on the news the plane was confirmed to have been in Africa just recently. Also please explain, why a trick since both the Russian government and the Wagner leftovers confirmed it? The guy signed his death certificate once he cancelled his little Moscow tour two months ago and we all know it.
Faking his own death is the only way to keep living after signing his own death certificate.
Some kind of… Belaruse
Don’t get up, I’ll see myself out.
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Russia shot it down intentionally and announced it. Its in like the first sentence or two of the article.
No it isn’t, read again. That’s a claim by “Wagner-linked Telegram channel”. It can hardly be trusted. No official statement from Putin, investigation is ongoing.
There has been video of Russian AA shooting the plane down though.
Would you mind sharing the video? I didn’t see any. Afaik the most probable cause is a bomb on the deck.
They are on Twitter and I don’t know how to link them.
But the story is still very early with most saying he isn’t even dead.
You can’t really expect to just throw several tons of steel and assorted stuff in the air and not have it fall back down. That’s why lighter than air always wins.
