• kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    If it loses 50-80% of the value as soon as it’s used, might as well get a used one if you must have a natural diamond. This also applies to cars and plenty of other things. Let someone with more money than you take the hit.

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      Pretty sure a used engagement ring is worse than lab grown in the eyes of the unwashed masses.

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        Used means cursed, it failed once and will fail again. As if the mined materials have any effect in a relationship.

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      My wife’s engagement ring is an emerald, I don’t think it was lab grown but it was way cheaper then a diamond and looks easy better then a piece of “glass”

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        My friend works with lab grown crystals and there re ones like lutetium aluminium garnet doped with cerium (LuAG:Ce) and similar which look awesome

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    I buy my wife jewelry with artificial diamonds, not because she wants it, but because I love to see her wearing it. She calls me a magpie for good reason.

    Ooh sparkly things!

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    My ring is made of silicone. Nice little grooves so it doesn’t trap sweat, too. Lightweight, durable, replacable, and a lifetime warranty.

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    Wife and I decided on moissanite. It’s big, extra sparkly, and 1/10 the price a similar diamond would be. Almost as hard, too - won’t get scratched except by another moissanite or a diamond.

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      This is what I always say. When people want diamonds they either want them because they’re pretty or expensive. If you want expensive then buy a gold bullion, if you want pretty buy a moissanite, for both, buy both.

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      I got engagement with moissanite for my now-wife. She says it is too big and firery-sparkly. Costed me almost nothing compared to a micro-sized diamond on a silver ring I’d get at a major jeweler.

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    Damn, one of these without a “fake and gay” explanation, and I’m too tired to think of a good one. I’ve never gotten to be the fake and gay guy, and I’m missing my chance D:

    But anyway, as others have said, lab grown, vintage, there are other options.

    But has anyone considered a rock that doesn’t just look like glass? There are so many cool rocks out there, people! I’d literally rather have a piece of quartz that my SO and I found together turned into a ring than I would have a piece of a much fancier/“valuable” stone that I have no attachment to.

    When my parents got married, they had gone gem mining at one of those places with the troughs of dirt, and you pan it yourself. They found some rubies, and had wedding rings made from those. How fucking cool is that? Way cooler than a thing you have no connection to, I think.

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    Never bought her a diamond

    Never even bought a ring

    Never even got married with a giant ceremony or big event

    Been together for over 30 years, bought property and all kinds of things, traveled to over 30 countries. Still not married.

    ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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      Same philosophy, but we did get married after we realized the legal protections and tax benefits were worth it. We just saw too much opportunity for our very dissimilar families to pull some nonsense if someone became ill or incapacitated.

      We snuck into a park (that requires reservations for ceremonies) with some friends and that was that.
      The rings are simple and inexpensive, and also rarely worn. We know what we’re about.

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      • got married at city hall for like $20
      • got him a synthetic diamond ring for $300 (looks great, large diamond with lots of small decorative diamonds, easily looks 10x or even 100x the price we paid)
      • spent all of the money we would have spent on wedding and ring on a long vacation
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      Same boat.

      At the end of the day, marriage is a government contract.

      Why the fuck would I want the government involved in my relationship?

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        Congratulations

        In Canada, once you live with a commonlaw partner for a given number of years (I think its two or more years?) … the law basically identifies you as a married couple in many ways. I think the only things left over is medical rights, do no resuscitate and right to die issues after that.

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        Because the government is involved in all sorts of other things, including, for example, who’s allowed to make decisions for someone when they’re sick or dying and unable to make decisions for themselves.

        And if you want to make those decisions for your partner you need to have some kind of government involvement in your relationship, either a legal marriage or some other waiver / power of attorney / whatever.

        I’ve heard stories from elder gays about the United States before gay marriage was legal. Back when someone who’d been with their partner for decades couldn’t even visit them in the hospital when they were dying, because they weren’t legally the next of kin. When a young gay man could be in the hospital with AIDS and their estranged, anti-gay parents could swoop in, deny medical care, pull the plug, and take his body away from his partner and community to cremate him and flush the ashes, and because those parents were the young man’s next of kin no one could do anything to stop them.

        Not to mention finances, inheritance, taxes, power of attorney, all the messy government stuff that becomes much simpler when you have a legal marriage that automatically provides it.

        I think of what could happen if my partner was in the hospital and their parents were their next of kin and I’m very happy for our legal marriage.

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      Didn’t buy her a diamond or a ring, but I did buy a marriage certificate and signed it at the location of our first date. We’re pretty happy with it

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        Congratulations

        Beautiful … you don’t need a public ceremony to display how much you love someone

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      We got married because otherwise her parents would get too annoying when we moved in together. We picked out rings without stones together and had six people present at the wedding.

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      “still haven’t made my mind up” aaa relationship 😭🥀💀

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        It was like that for a year or two … then it turned into 30 … we wondered for a long time … but after a while, you both realize, I’m never finding someone like this again in this lifetime.

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        Sounds to me like they’ve made up their minds a long time ago and have proven their love for one another for over 30 years. I don’t think there exists a thing that could prove it better.

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    Rings are socially relevant demarcations of sexual availability. Diamonds are just shiny rocks. Frankly, rings with any stones in them piss me off. They catch on your clothes and rip your favorite fucking sweater, and it’s laundry day so you can’t even grab something else because your other clothes are soaked in vomit because projectile vomiting all over a crowd is the most reasonable course of action when you’re a dumb asshole dicking around on a balcony on new years, apparently.

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    I mean if you want to go down that path, all expressions of love are inherently devoid of meaning outside of that we prescribe to them. If an over valued blood diamond that your partner wants because of perverse marketing is truly the object that to them communicates the epitome of love; the only real question is if making your love known to your partner is worth that amount of money.

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      I agree the “rock” hints strongly at it, but unless they’re american* weddings aren’t very expensive. That whole lavish show-off thing the rest of us just ignore.

      *) hmm, maybe indian too

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        Currently planning what seems like a fairly mid sized wedding in the UK

        It’s already looking like it’s going to be over double the cost of a roughly equivalent wedding one of my friends had only 3 years ago

        Based on some of the price lists of suppliers for the following year we’ve seen, they’ll be getting even more expensive. The industry is getting quite out of hand

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          My wife and I looked at places a couple of friends got married at a couple of years earlier when we were planning on our wedding and those venues had doubled in price since then. A couple of years later our venue doubled in price. The wedding industry really seems intent on pricing itself out of existence!

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        Dutch wedding receptions aren’t cheap either, the main difference is that here it’s much more common to keep it small and not have a reception.

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          Exactly - there’s no general custom to throw one in “keeping up with the Joneses”-style.

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        It depends a lot on what you do, I am currently looking and its annoying how few mid price options there seem to be. Like its either go down the pub with your mates for £150, or £20k invite a bunch of people you barely even know.

        Why so little in the 4 figure price range? Seems like for that you need to just organise something yourself and say its just a party.

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      Lab grown diamonds are actually flawless, so the jewellery industry represents them as being too perfect. Apparently you need the imperfections that natural diamonds have in order to have ‘character’ and therfore value!