It’s all fun and games until Republicans use this as an excuse to further enforce their fascist agendas. Just glad this happened in Utah and not Illinois or California. Blue states will likely bear the brunt of the repercussions if there are any.
Oh noooo, the people talking about putting autistic people in camps and currently sending PoC people to camps and siccing the army on civilians might do bad things more if we fight back!
Let’s just ask them nicely and I’m sure they’ll pause their evil a little bit!
Utah County is a very red area in the middle of a very red Utah state, and it happened at a right-leaning college.
It would be a very bad look if Trump sent troops in because “bad man with gun”. Or it might be a wakeup call for the few dipshits still flying a Trump flag.
Either way, it’s a complicated aituation.
Source: I live 20 minutes away from where it happened.
And why would any reprisals have to be targeted to Utah…?
This event will be used to justify all sorts of escalatory measures that weren’t feasible for Trump yesterday.
But you don’t have to believe me, we’re going to get to watch it happen together real soon.
Again, I’m not even making a moral judgment about any of this. I’m just stating that objectively this is going to significantly amp up all of the fascist tendencies of this administration, and the right-wing in general - which will have real and political consequences.
Unless there’s something about Trump that leads you to believe he won’t take full advantage of the situation?
Again, I’m not making any judgments on the actions taken today, just pointing out that there will be significant escalatory responses from the Trump admin.
They’re just going to move up a timetable on existing plans. Fascism requires them to disarm the populace at some point. An armed populace is a threat to any regime’s existence. In a democracy that’s not a problem, but it is for totalitarians.
It was them that did it. They knew they needed the next level and sacrificed a pawn to take it there.
No offence but I don’t think this was the work of “purple haired trans furry leftist college kid”. That was a perfected professional death shot. A fed shot. A pro coup shot. A death sacrifice for the reason of social manipulation during a generation of modern war.
Have you read about the kid that supposedly tried to kill trump… It sounded like a set up. Even trump is a pawn in the grand scheme… A spokesman not a leader. A pupper not a president. All of this should really be blatant. But I think people watch too much media to see the world through a clear lens.
It’s all fun and games until Republicans use this as an excuse to further enforce their fascist agendas.
Republicans are marching National Guard soldiers into the largest cities in America on exaggerated “crime fighting” excuses. They have established an unaccountable militia with ICE hiding their identities and violating the civil rights of American citizens on exaggerated or fabricated drug/violence reasons. They’ve needed no legitimate excuses to do these things, yet they are actively doing them. This changes nothing on that front.
Looking for afar, with an ocean between where I live and where this happened…
It’s not the government you have to be worried about. They are fascists, and they were going to escalate anyway. It’s the mesh of Nazi militias you have, which can decide to go openly ‘hunting’ progressives. Don’t expect Law enforcement to do anything about that (and iirc the groups who were watching those bastards have been dissolved).
It’ll be interesting to see the contrast with the political response to this assassination compared to the Democratic Minnesota lawmaker that was assassinated a couple months ago
I get the distinct feeling conservatives won’t be nearly as silent about this one
This accelerates it for sure. I think more of what this will do is show us a clear line of liberals becoming fascist as they criticize “leftist violence”.
And, to be clear, we have no idea what the motivation of the shooter was. THAT MOTIVATION DOES NOT MATTER. Please do not waste your time arguing with the fascist over this. They already made up their mind on how they would use this for their narrative. They control all media outlets.
Get off the internet and get ready to keep your family and neighbors safe. This was coming. But it’s coming faster now. The liberals will only focus on condemning this violence NOT the state violence that is about to follow.
Oh, yeah, they will, but that’s inevitable anyway. It won’t occur to them that oppressing Dems will only make them stronger and more resolved. Nothing has created more terrorists than Conservative military operations.
I dunno what you’re talking about. The <insert alleged shooter> was with me playing the new Mario Kart game. I was in first place then I got blue shelled.
3 hours later. The old guy was cleared as of this time. But the official reports have been wrong literally several times already. But just an update. The incompetency of the police and FBI is astounding.
It’s all fun and games until Republicans use this as an excuse to further enforce their fascist agendas. Just glad this happened in Utah and not Illinois or California. Blue states will likely bear the brunt of the repercussions if there are any.
They were going to no matter what because no one is willing to stop them. Now there’s one less.
Because of guns?
Things is, talking like this, using these words means you gotta keep shooting people. So you better start buying bullets
Were? They already are. Is there no one who remembers what happened in Minnesota a few months ago?
He ded?
He ded now
🙃
He ded.
I doubt he survived that, but if he did he’ll be fucked for life
He didn’t. The shot blew a major artery, death in less than a minute.
Shame he didn’t suffer
I just saw the news. Holy shit. I mean, how big of an iPhone screen do you need?
*Fewer
Don’t you kink shame me
Don’t kid yourself, whatever they were going to do, is going to taken up a few notches.
However you feel about his dying, the manner of his death will absolutely change what happens next.
WTF even is this comment?
Oh noooo, the people talking about putting autistic people in camps and currently sending PoC people to camps and siccing the army on civilians might do bad things more if we fight back!
Let’s just ask them nicely and I’m sure they’ll pause their evil a little bit!
Are you serious?
What is your comment?
Maybe you should reread what I actually said, and then decide whether or not you want to delete your comment.
Since you were wondering, this was the part I was replying to:
They were going to do that anyways. Playing nice will gain us nothing.
That is my comment.
And that’s objectively true.
I never said anything about what should, or shouldn’t be done, or any other moral judgment on his assassination.
However, if you look at my comment history, I think you’ll see my views on his death are pretty clear.
But none of that changes the fact that Trump will escalate as a result of this.
Did anything change after the political assassinations of Emerita Melissa Hortman and her husband, Mark Hortman?
I don’t understand your point.
Why would Trump care about Democrats being killed?
This isn’t about moral equivalency, or what’s right, it’s about what’s going to happen next.
He essentially declared martial law in DC because one of his twerps got hassled, how do you think this goes?
I don’t think it’s controversial to point out the obvious.
Utah County is a very red area in the middle of a very red Utah state, and it happened at a right-leaning college.
It would be a very bad look if Trump sent troops in because “bad man with gun”. Or it might be a wakeup call for the few dipshits still flying a Trump flag.
Either way, it’s a complicated aituation.
Source: I live 20 minutes away from where it happened.
And why would any reprisals have to be targeted to Utah…?
This event will be used to justify all sorts of escalatory measures that weren’t feasible for Trump yesterday.
But you don’t have to believe me, we’re going to get to watch it happen together real soon.
Again, I’m not even making a moral judgment about any of this. I’m just stating that objectively this is going to significantly amp up all of the fascist tendencies of this administration, and the right-wing in general - which will have real and political consequences.
Unless there’s something about Trump that leads you to believe he won’t take full advantage of the situation?
Oh he will, that’s for certain.
A faster timeline means more people realizing they’re fucked and the fascist regime will eventually get to them.
Sure, that’s absolutely a real possibility.
Again, I’m not making any judgments on the actions taken today, just pointing out that there will be significant escalatory responses from the Trump admin.
They’re just going to move up a timetable on existing plans. Fascism requires them to disarm the populace at some point. An armed populace is a threat to any regime’s existence. In a democracy that’s not a problem, but it is for totalitarians.
It was them that did it. They knew they needed the next level and sacrificed a pawn to take it there.
No offence but I don’t think this was the work of “purple haired trans furry leftist college kid”. That was a perfected professional death shot. A fed shot. A pro coup shot. A death sacrifice for the reason of social manipulation during a generation of modern war.
Have you read about the kid that supposedly tried to kill trump… It sounded like a set up. Even trump is a pawn in the grand scheme… A spokesman not a leader. A pupper not a president. All of this should really be blatant. But I think people watch too much media to see the world through a clear lens.
Republicans are marching National Guard soldiers into the largest cities in America on exaggerated “crime fighting” excuses. They have established an unaccountable militia with ICE hiding their identities and violating the civil rights of American citizens on exaggerated or fabricated drug/violence reasons. They’ve needed no legitimate excuses to do these things, yet they are actively doing them. This changes nothing on that front.
Looking for afar, with an ocean between where I live and where this happened…
It’s not the government you have to be worried about. They are fascists, and they were going to escalate anyway. It’s the mesh of Nazi militias you have, which can decide to go openly ‘hunting’ progressives. Don’t expect Law enforcement to do anything about that (and iirc the groups who were watching those bastards have been dissolved).
Lmao, I love that person’s logic. “Don’t do anything to piss of the fascists, they might do something fascist.”
That’s not what they said.
They’re just pointing out that Trump will be everage the situation and enact an even more fascist agenda.
That’s not saying the left shouldn’t do anything, rather just be prepared for the consequences.
I’m more afraid it will accelerate things.
I’m HOPING it will accelerate things.
Except they haven’t needed an excuse to date. I’m sick of this boogyman. Punch back, they haven’t been pulling any punches.
It’ll be interesting to see the contrast with the political response to this assassination compared to the Democratic Minnesota lawmaker that was assassinated a couple months ago
I get the distinct feeling conservatives won’t be nearly as silent about this one
They’re going to do fascism no matter what! They don’t care about truth. They can just make shit up if they need to rile up their supporters.
This accelerates it for sure. I think more of what this will do is show us a clear line of liberals becoming fascist as they criticize “leftist violence”.
And, to be clear, we have no idea what the motivation of the shooter was. THAT MOTIVATION DOES NOT MATTER. Please do not waste your time arguing with the fascist over this. They already made up their mind on how they would use this for their narrative. They control all media outlets.
Get off the internet and get ready to keep your family and neighbors safe. This was coming. But it’s coming faster now. The liberals will only focus on condemning this violence NOT the state violence that is about to follow.
They’ll make up whatever excuses they need either way so it doesn’t really make a difference.
It will be like the Iraq war.
Saudi Arabia was responsible, but we’re going to attack Iraq instead.
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Oh, yeah, they will, but that’s inevitable anyway. It won’t occur to them that oppressing Dems will only make them stronger and more resolved. Nothing has created more terrorists than Conservative military operations.
I think this is a net positive, especially because the shooter was reportedly an old white guy
per AP:
“The person was initially a suspect but then was cleared when police realized he wasn’t trans”
They’ve confirmed it wasn’t him. The shooter was on a building 200 yards away
I dunno what you’re talking about. The <insert alleged shooter> was with me playing the new Mario Kart game. I was in first place then I got blue shelled.
Oh yeah, definitely
Side note - I just wanna say don’t post this guy. He’s got nothing to do with this as far as we know
What a legend
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That’s probably a net positive for odd white guys too, the bar is in hell these days.
3 hours later. The old guy was cleared as of this time. But the official reports have been wrong literally several times already. But just an update. The incompetency of the police and FBI is astounding.
Inb4 Fox News talking heads all get Secret Service protection, so Trump can continue watching them all day.