Antivax but do random shrooms/lsd/blow from strangers and buy their weed illegally
ITS ALL NATURAL!!
but we dont know whats in those vaccines lol
They really came out of the wood work when the covid vaccines were released. Friends and acquaintances who were there munching down e’s of unknown origin back in early 2000s suddenly had a different stance about putting something “unknown” in them.
Pre pandemic i know one real life antivaxxer. Vut even then, kinda not really, he did vaccinate his kids, but he didn’t like that he was forced too for school. Some real “don’t tell me what to do, because i was gonna do it anyway” energy. To me antivaxxers were just the butt of online jokes.
Post pandemic, i could name so many antivaxxers, it’s insane. And they all have the dumbest takes imaginable. And they always try to convince you, but i never thought for a second that this person might be onto something. The last guy who talked to me about it was a friend of my dad. I know him for a ling time, but not well at all. He said that the pandemic was all planned, but not enough people died, so they have another one coming, and that’s why he’s not getting vaccinated. Wait, the government tries to kill people, it didn’t work as well as they thought, but they also try to vaccinate people so they don’t die? Why do they try to kill people? And his aswer was basically: “many people believe that.” Motherfucker, i know you, you hang out with 5 people who are 60 to 70 years old and they are all reclusive alcoholics. It doesn’t really matter what they believe.
Most of the people I know who went antivax during covid are very specifically antivax about the covid vax only. They are afraid of the mRNA tech, they think it’s going to modify their genes or some BS. It really is political BS though. During the pandemic, the right wing decided to make this an issue, and they stick with it.
and then started following RFK JR, J ROGAN, J PETERSON and lastly trump. i knew a family member that sort of did this. he was literally scoffing at the vaccine a few months ago.
I ask antivaxers I know if they ever turned down a medicine prescribed by their doctor other than the one the media told them to fear?
Yeah, the only two antivaxxers I know (more did know) have fried their brains to mush with drugs so them believing that shit isn’t surprising. I did lots of drugs in my 20s and knew a lot of people who did even more than me, and the two people who were always the “worst” with their use are the only ones I am aware of who are antivaxxers (In Sweden, it’s not common here at all). They’d lick a literally turd if they saw someone sprinkle some unknown powder on it just for the chance of it making them high in any way, but they would fight to their death if anyone tried to vaccinate them specifically only with a covid vaccine.
I know a guy who did, still does and deals with every drug imaginable. Really nice guy, honestly. But he refused to get vaccinated, he bought a fake covid certificate or some shit for like 1000 bucks or whatever, because he didn’t want that unknown substance in his body
brain damage from drugs, strokes and other injuries or disease is known to turn people into a looney right winger or a conspiracy nut. fetterman, sorbo, jim cavaziel is a good example of stroke to alt-right, they were shitty people before, but stroke just disinhibit thier “closetness”
That’s my granddaughter.
Fully vaxxed EXCEPT for covid. Calls the first (of many) times she caught as ‘when I almost died’. She’s currently injecting one of the fun crop of weight loss drugs without a second thought because there aren’t any TikTok influencers who are telling her it’s dangerous.
Ozempic hospitalized my ex for 12 days and he’s now in a class action lawsuit against the makers because it’s a known side effect that wasn’t warned against. It’s not something to play with at all.
What’s the side effect if you don’t mind sharing?
Not at all. He’s diabetic; Ozempic basically caused his gastric muscles to stop working, which is called gastroparesis. He began vomiting and having diarrhea over a period of days, and became unable to take his diabetic meds because he couldn’t keep anything down. I came home and found him basically comatose, and he was in a state called euglycemic diabetic ketoacidosis, which is a new thing with all the Ozempic type drugs, where your sugars aren’t all that high but the severity of your condition is masked by the Ozempic, and you end up overproducing ketones in your blood because your sugar is out of control. The ketosis part reversed quickly with IV insulin, but the gastroparesis and associated esophagitis from all the vomiting meant he had to stay in hospital for quite some time. He has permanent damage to his gastric system. The makers of the drug didn’t disclose this and it’s turned up in several others; my GP friend had two patients with the same situation. So they’re all in a lawsuit, and I’m super leery of these drugs.
Much obliged. Thank you.
Fat phobia has killed so many and messed up so much research imo. We need fats and fat soluble vitamins, but in the right proportions to each other. I understand Ozempic is ostensibly for diabetes (and obv idk anything about your husband or his weight or why he took it, not assuming he has fat phobia himself), but rapid weight loss like that means people are likely going without adequate vitamins for quite some time, causing the body to eat its own tissues like bones, bone marrow, muscle, liver, and so on, to carry on the most important tasks for life.
Gastroparesis is often associated with vitamin d, b12, iron, and magnesium deficiencies. Fat soluble vitamins have a ton of downstream effects on other vitamins and each other, and many actually help with diabetes.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7469006/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34440929/
https://nutritionj.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12937-023-00840-1
https://diabetes.org/food-nutrition/diabetes-vitamins-supplements/low-vitamin-d-insulin-resistance
They are not putting the Ozempic patients on vitamin therapy or even monitoring fat soluble vitamins afaik. BTW, the pancreas helps with processing fat soluble vitamins by making lipase, not just glucose/insulin. So anything that affects the pancreas, which Ozempic does, has the potential to affect fat soluble vitamins as well which have a LOT of downstream effects that have been catalogued for decades but doctors just kinda ignore??? Due to fat phobia.
I don’t blame you for suing, they are selling you malnutrition in a pill because they hate fat cells
His GP was honestly just trying to get his diabetes under control, and had no reason to think this would happen. He’s not obese in the slightest and has never been more than 5 pounds overweight, he just has bad genetics for it. I just think that it’s been marketed so heavily it seems to be a go to and we’re just starting to really see what it does.
Right, again, I’m not saying HE is fat phobic or even fat - but that the makers of the drugs and the prescribers ARE, and they are not choosing to monitor fat soluble vitamin status as standard for the treatment, which imo is extremely warranted. Also missed the detail that he was your EX, sorry, I thought he was your current partner
My favorite hypocrite is Jenny McCarthy who obviously has never met a cosmetic injectable she doesn’t like but was one of the foremost anti-vax idiots out there.
Botulism toxin injected directly into my face - 🌞🎶😁👄👅
A vaccine preventing measles mumps and rubella - 😵💫☠️💀❤️🩹👎
Botox is actually super helpful for a number of legitimate medical reasons, which a lot of people don’t know. Migraines, limb contractures, anal fissures as a few examples.m
I hope Jenny McCarthy stubs her toe.
Can we swap that with falls feet first into a wood chipper at 75 percent power?
Yeah, but botulism is all natural.
That’s what I tell myself when I eat expired MREs!
Only all natural 100% organic toxins injected into my face! 😤
JK, I’ll also take any variety of filler you got to keep my face from caving in on itself.
Through an improbable and insane series of events, the only facial filler I have right now is 250CCs of weasel cum. I can discount the service or reschedule you when another filler is available.
Injected via weasel?
Even the applicator is all natural!
Just goes to show you how it’s not a rational decision driven by evidence and consideration like they reflexively say, it’s just reactionary nonsense spread by traitors. I will never forgive traitors for what they have done to dismantle society in the modern age.
Few people are consistent in their worldview and actions.
Had a crunchy hippie lecture me about the danger of the covid vaccine, because you don’t know what’s in it. This was at a house party during covid, where she smoked cigarettes, snorted ketamine, MDMA, and mephedrone.
And like, the ingredients of the COVID vaccine are like, totally top secret.
¿Por qué no los dos?
I’ll take every vaccine I can get. Hell, I would sign up for the smallpox vaccine if I could get it, even though that disease hasn’t existed in the wild in decades. I want every covid booster. I want it all! Jab me up, give me that sweet MRNA!
And I’ll take the other stuff too. I love me a good edible. I’m on tirzepatide myself, even though insurance doesn’t cover it. How do I afford it? Simple! I pirate the hell out of it!
I just got prescriptions from my GP for the pneumococcal and RSV vaccines because it turns out that I qualify. Anything I can get vaccinated for I do, because fuck antivaxxers.
I know someone who is a 60 year old smoker who went and lied to public health that she was a sex worker to get the MPOX vaccine, which makes me laugh, but i wouldn’t mind it myself because you can get it touching surfaces.
My grandfather only lived to be a father because of the polio vaccine. Even my stepmother had polio in the fucking womb… it ate her kneecaps… she became a dancer to build leg muscle strength. My family has a valid, empirical respect for vaccines. I am a nurse and when I was young, I passed on the flu shots… until I got the flu… and found out what that hell was, I wasn’t sure if I would survive it. After that, I will get every flu shot offered, I take every Covid Booster, I go the shingles vax and next year, I will be eligible for the RSV shot. I am getting them all, like Pokeman.
Nurses not getting vaccinated is an unreal phenomenon, isn’t it? I work in a hospital, and some nurses who worked with COVID ECMO patients refused the COVID vaccine and got let go. How could you look at these people withering away and not want to be protected?
The flu shot is super important. I read about a preteen boy in Ohio whose parents didn’t get him vaccinated, and he got influenza, and immediately got bacterial pneumonia and died, and his mother is wailing about how fast it all happened. Um, it didn’t need to happen at all, they don’t give them out for fun! I’ve thankfully never had it myself.
As someone working in a hospital, how are you not on every vaccine, especially those for world travelers? If someone picks up something unusual from a different part of the world, they will be going to the hospital, they will be exposing you to it
And they have no real reason for it ever. It just seems to be obstinate behaviour because they don’t want to be told what to do.
Picked the wrong fucken profession then
Not just not getting vaccinated but actively promoting ng against it. They should be fired immediately. All the other so called medical professionals who take that track as well.
They were all fired, or got it under duress. Canada isn’t like this.
Bullshit. I am a former paramedic in Canada. I know loads of supposed healthcare workers who avoided COVID shots and still happily work their jobs spreading the disease of stupidity today.
Well not where I live.
Honestly, I’ve been pawing through the list of medical conditions that let you still be eligible for the new covid booster. I have something that I think will qualify. But my funnier goto is that depression is one of the eligible conditions. And nothing makes me more depressed than an anti-science quack running our vaccine system!
Oh wow, I can just go get one. Ha. I plan on it next weekend in fact. Gosh the US is just a zippy little death march these days.
“You know what kind of shit they put in those things?” They said while hitting their meth pipe.
There’s a story on one of the medicine subreddits where a mom brought her kid to ER for whatever viral syndrome, refused vaccination because she objected to the toxins in them, and then asked the staff to watch her kid so she could go smoke.
Or injecting that fentanyl laced heroin…
I mean, if you keep nearly or actually ODing on Ivermectin, you’ll shit your guts out, could lose weight that way, probably cheaper.
… probably a lot more unsafe, there’s a lot more OD sideeffects than diarrhea… but… cheaper!
Vaccines are required because most viruses can infect virtually anyone. Ozempic is not because most people are not overweight and many who are are able to loose the weight naturally. You can use your drug however you like but please stop making these insane comparisons
Also, these people will take paracetamol with no questions asked.
If I am the head of department of health, I would order a candid infomercial along the motif of “you wouldn’t steal a car, you wouldn’t pirate” but it goes “you don’t question paracetamol. Why do you question vaccines?”
What about paracetamol?
We actually don’t know how it works. A new plausible theory came out but it is just speculation so far and doesn’t account for everything.
https://www.livescience.com/health/we-may-finally-know-how-tylenol-works-and-its-not-how-we-thought
“Even though we have been using paracetamol for the management of pain for more than 130 years, we still don’t fully understand how the drug works,” Wheate told Live Science. One widely held theory was that acetaminophen stopped the body from making. prostaglandins, which can trigger pain and inflammation, he said.“If the results of this study are confirmed, then it significantly changes our understanding of the drug.”
Keep in mind this study was done in rats and this article is from 6/19 of this year.
Use them too often enough and it will cause hearing loss. It happened to my dad. The doctor said it is one of the side effects. I know other people who pop paracetamol unnecessarily when they feel slight pain or headache.
Oh yeah, people say, oh it’s just paracetamol. But its effects on the kidneys as well is not something to take lightly.
“You don’t know what’s in that shite” - Debbie, 52. Lifelong smoker.
They’re terrified of a (usually) dead virus/other bug in a tiny vial but will do ozempic, massive doses of ivermectin and god knows what else lol
When scientists warned that milk could be contaminated with bird flu and pasteurized milk was safe, they started drinking raw milk en masse. There is no logic for them.
And then, a few of the less dense ones realized that raw milk was dangerous and they could reduce the risk by… boiling it.
But they won’t drink pastuerized milk.
Oppositional defiant disorder. Very well understood, researched heavily especially in young children.
Can it be induced by media consumption and cult behavior?
Or are they all kids that had it beaten out of them, but never properly treated, and now we all have to deal with the aftermath.
The defiance thing itself is induced by being a half-sentient talking ape that doesnt like being told things like “No!” “Thats bad, dont do that!” In terms of their actions. The antivaxers also like to layer in government mistrust and religious faith levels of i-must-be-right but the core of defiance is just that people dont like feeling shitty and have poor instinctual coping methods for it.
Its a fairly universal copout for humans to avoid feelings of shame and embarrassment or punishment. Nobody on the planet likes feeling stupid or in the wrong. So when confronted with these feelings some common stategies are out right lying to others or ourselves, or constructing a delusional warped narrative subjective reality in which they’re actually somehow in the right through mental gymnastics, or by rejecting the claim of wrongness through formal argument, or using social dominance plays to forcefully dismiss claims of wrongdoing.
Usually people find a strange mixture of multiple of these strategies in emotional combative arguments and coping with their aftermath.
In an ideal world people would be able to instantly accept blame and fault for wrongdoing, eat he feelings of shame and self improve without trying to weasle their way out of punishment if they think they can get away with it. A properly adjusted adult who has eaten their fair share of humble pie over heir life encroaches on that kind of humility and willingness to update their assumptions given evidence, is able to say “oh shit I was wrong about that, huh? My bad.” Or “the science nerds who study these things probably have more authority on the matter than I do, I’ll default to their ideas.” This however, is not an ideal world.
Children have zero impulse control and are barely sentient enough to construct coherent sentences or internal monologues. Their tiny brains are still developing and so they get a free pass more or less when it comes to being defiant little shits defaulting to instinctual ape copout strategies. all kids have their bad moments and are still learning. The problem is when they never stop defaulting to these things in adulthood.
I don’t see anyone dealing with it.
“Don’t tell me what to do!” I’d bet reverse psychology would be pretty effective on these asshats.
mRNA vaccines carry a code for your cells to produce the viral protein shells, so not only is not a living virus, it’s never been the virus and could not be more harmless.
It’s also impossible for it to alter your DNA.
What it could do is be weaponized to produce prions or whatever but the dummies never cry about that (because you can disprove it easily)
Your big words scare anti-vaxxers.
