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    I’ve often wondered what new and innovative ways Microsoft could find to make my computer even less likely to do what I want.

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        Bro, remember when VR was all the rage? EVERYTHING was pushing VR, so much so Facebook Meta went all in on it.

        Now it’s a fucking novelty at best.

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          I think VR and all these AI assistants are similarly in that they’re in their infancy stages and there’s gonna be a ton of growing pains before they’re useful enough to be common, but someday they will have their place

          That’s my thoughts on the matter at least

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            VR has been explored though, from Google Cardboard to the PSV2 to animating/painting… All of them failing to gain traction or be widely adopted.

            It either needs to jump through a lot more hurdles to be more accessible and useful, or it’s just gonna be another cool experiment in time like Etch-A-Sketch

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              VR has been explored though, from Google Cardboard to the PSV2 to animating/painting… All of them failing to gain traction or be widely adopted.

              That’s only because the cost for a good experience is still out of the realm for most people to justify to even try. Until we are looking at $150 or so for a good experience that doesn’t give people headaches or motion sickness issues it will never take off.

              The cheap VR systems still give plenty of people issues, and the expensive ones are out of the reach of a normal person living their life day to day.

              And for businesses, VR simply has not proven to have a cost benefit worth even the initial capital investment, without even taking into account ongoing IT costs due to damaged equipment.

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                I’m one of the people who gets nauseated from 3D goggles. I’ve got a friend who got all the latest stuff, had sensors on the wall, all that and within a minute or so I wanted to puke.

                I’m never going to use a vr headset. Not sure what percentage of people are in my boat, but I think that’s a pretty significant barrier to adoption

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                  I wouldn’t say never.

                  The current headsets can make you sick in a variety of ways but since the start of VR, the sick factor has been reduced by roughly half every 5 years or every generation I’ve tried it.

                  It’s through a combination of higher refresh rates, better tracking, sickness reducers such as limited FOV when moving, or various locomotion techniques for the player.

                  The largest nausea inducer is giving people a joystick for moving around. But otherwise a 90+hz refresh rate and large FOV solve most issues.

                  Also, frankly, it takes some getting used to. But once your brain knows what to expect, the sickness goes away pretty quick.

                  Also I don’t necessarily expect entertainment or games to be the big thing. Many businesses use it for short periods to showcase designs. And VR is walking right now while AR is running.

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                And for businesses, VR simply has not proven to have a cost benefit worth even the initial capital investment, without even taking into account ongoing IT costs due to damaged equipment.

                That’s just not true. Companies of all sizes are using VR for onboarding and training with much success and a huge return on investment. There are also a lot of location-based and VR arcades making a nice profit.

                VR may never go mainstream, but for businesses there are a lot of use cases for which it is valuable.

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                  What are some companies/industries using it for onboarding/training and how are they applying it? Haven’t heard about this.

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                  Maybe if you’re in the military or space industry, otherwise I can’t see any practical use in commercial business.

                  No one wanted to wear them even for meetings while they were isolated, and that requires the bare minimum of effort

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                That’s certainly a factor, but I think it has far more to do with availability of content.

                I can afford to buy a proper VR setup but I do not see it as a worthwhile investment because practically none of the content available is of interest to me.

                It’s the equivalent of dropping 2K+ to play mobile games.

                Until AAA studios are actively developing for this hardware, I’m not interested…but they won’t because barely anyone has the hardware. It’s a real chicken and egg scenario.

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          VR is great, just unfortunate still lacking software. Half Life Alyx and GT7 are amazing experiences unlike anything without VR. Meta’s shit I haven’t tried but on more powerful, Facebook free platforms there’s a lot of great stuff.

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            He wasn’t talking about games.

            Glad you enjoy playing with your toy though, thanks for the review.

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          Remeber when 3D was all the rage? 3D monitors 3D tvs, every fucking movie was in 3D. And…now it’s a novelty at best.

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        It’s very obvious that they rushed Copilot. What should have been an assistant like Jarvis in Iron Man, has literally no purpose and can’t do anything useful.

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    This might just be the push I need to switch to Linux desktop.

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      Do it. With proton the last argument for me to use windows is gone (gaming).

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        Well, it’s not GONE. There are still plenty of games that won’t run well on Linux, or they won’t allow online multiplayer because their anti-cheat software is restricted to Windows. But that number is getting smaller every day.

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          But there are so very many games that do work. That those that do not, i can easily ignore.

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          Thats why I specified that, for me, that was enough to switch. I agree that proton isnt there yet and 100% compatibility, and we will probably never get to that. But there are enough games on the market for me to do 90% of my gaming on Linux these days.

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            Yeah and it’s getting closer all the time. I don’t think we’re that far from a “tipping point” where Windows gets so shitty, and simultaneously Linux gets so good (for gaming specifically) that it would be silly not to switch.

            Any day now…

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              INCOMING (artillery barrage with different distros). Unfortunately I have a bad feeling that chrome OS will win the Linux wars

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          Meh. I don’t play multiplayer games at all other than FFXIV and that I haven’t played in over a year. The only thing that would deter me is some visual novels I play are windows only but I could probably just run them in a virtual machine as they’re not demanding.

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            Games like that just reinforce that a large segment of the gaming population will prioritize Windows, and developers go where the players are. I used to dual boot windows but now run windows as a VM with a VFIO gpu. Works great but it’s annoying to need that for just a few applications.

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      I spent the last ~10 days “playing” with many distros, including testing some current games, and I am literally right now backing up my files and about to reformat my main PC to linux (full drive, no dual). This is after only having experience with copy-paste Raspberry PI guides for my pi-hole.

      Don’t totally believe “oh it’s so easy, nothing to configure” - those people are lying, especially if you’ve not used Linux before. But several flavors of Ubuntu are quite pleasant, and I appear to have found a home with PopOS. I can’t find anything that “doesn’t work”, and the worst fixes were just quick searches for help. PopOS won due to nvidia compatibility and a nice, snappy desktop. It also was the fastest in overall reformat cycle time. My wife’s computer is still Windows, if I do have any microsoft emergencies.

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        There are some games that just will not work even under proton, or that have functional restrictions. It’s way fewer games than it used to be, but it’s still not an absolutely perfect solution. I would love to make Linux my gaming OS instead of my “getting shit done” OS like it currently is, I’ve been advocating for it for a few decades at this point and it’s almost there, but it’s not to a point yet where I can unreservedly recommend it to gamers. If you aren’t a gamer I’d say it’s already good enough for anything you need.

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          It’s stupid easy. Flash DietPi to the SD card, select pi hole from the package list, then point your router to the IP for DNS.

          Of course, it should be plugged directly into your router, so a zero won’t work without an ethernet hat.

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            This is where I’d say to visit /r/PiHole but it doesn’t work that way over here and I’ve no idea how to link to a sub yet soo….

            Checkout it the PiHole website.

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          https://docs.pi-hole.net/

          It’s “easy” - but that is very subjective, depending on how much you’ve down outside “turning Windows on”. You DO need to make sure your router allows assigning a DNS ip address. Some ISP-supplied units are rather locked down.

          I recommend a “kit” from somewhere like CanaKit (amazon has them), to make sure you get the parts you need. It can run on smaller/cheaper kits, but I say get a Pi3 or 4 variant.

          Then following the link above, there is great documentation on install. Install “Putty” on windows, which will log into your Pi and allow remote command line, and then the entire process is copy-paste from guides.

          After you finish, you may feel “oh that was easy!” - but there’s still some stuff to learn and get used to along the way.

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        Congrats on picking an awesome distro! :) Pop is really nice, and I’m really excited to see what they do with their desktop environment. I feel like we’re spoiled for choice right now on Linux.

        There are always things to configure, just like on Windows. I think some people kind of forget that they had to learn to configure things on Windows at one point. xD

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          Ok wow… did I jinx myself with this post. Immediately after posting here, I began the install/config phase of a fresh reformat. Encountered a weirdness that the system couldn’t sleep/suspend - immediately woke up. 8 hours later… After installing 5 different distros to confirm it was ALL linux versions (even debian)…

          I spent the entire day, 8 hours, searching and referencing and troubleshooting. FINALLY one very random corner of the internet, on an ARCH-LINUX forum, a small comment mentioned that my Gigabyte B550 “had a problem” with sleep. SO THEN I had to start cross-referencing those words (couldn’t “use” the Arch guide, since I was on Pop), and my dude/dudette… I was up to 1am.

          Ultimately, I had to COMBINE the “solutions” of FOUR different results, across 2017-2020 (none actually on Ubuntu 22.04) to get the fix to work. Like one taught me the script, but the locations were wrong, one taught me the service I needed, but it was outdated, and then another taught how to fix a service, etc etc, cascading solutions.

          SO at close to 2AM - after documenting my own guide, another raw metal install of PopOS, wrote my script & service… and… “it just works!” (pun intended). It works. It sleeps. Have to disable the Gigabyte B550M “GPP0 and GPP8” device, which are bridges to the NVMe drives.

          Funny enough though, as much as this is “yup, thats Linux!” I feel like it’s not fair, and not Linux’s fault. This is a random, and really unlucky, issue with my specific board. I am typing this to you, while on my new PopOS install, and sleep/suspend still works.

          What a ride!

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              as I keep chatting to you on a windows thread…

              remembering I started linux 9 days ago, hopefully that’s the biggest adventure I go on for awhile. I wonder if there’s some place I should post my story, but maybe it’s too specific to be wildly helpful.

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        I use Windows, macOS, and Linux, but all in separate ways. Haven’t used a desktop Linux in quite some time — only headless Linux servers.

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      About a month ago Windows 11 started forcing ads for apps and services I didn’t need. Immediately installed a popular Linux distribution to have some peace of mind. There’s every flavor of desktop out there. I picked one for work and games (pop_os). It’s out of my way most of the time and it’s not trying to sell me anything. I recommend it, specially, if you’re someone that doesn’t fiddle with settings too much, it just work.

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    Microsoft may replace the Start button with the Copilot AI in Windows 12

    Yeah, they could also replace the start button with a shit emoji. But there’s no indication at all anybody wants to do any of that because they’re not idiots. You only said that so people visit your shitty website. In fact, not even the quote you reference for your article suggests any plans of replacing the start button whatsoever:

    “The Copilot is like the Start button,” Nadella explains. “It becomes the orchestrator of all your app experiences. So for example, I just go there and express my intent and it either navigates me to an application or it brings the application to the Copilot, so it helps me learn, query and create — and completely changes, I think, the user habits.”

    Fuck clickbait headlines and fuck websites bending any and all content to the SEO voodoo.

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        And everybody’s just happy to bitch about whatever the headline suggests without ever checking if it’s even true.

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    Well in that case I might replace windows 12 with not using windows 12

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      • Start menu is whatever you want it to be
      • Search works
      • No ads
      • No spyware
      • No drivers to install (except Nvidia)
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        Fuck Nvidia.

        Also:

        • upgrades don’t need forced restarts

        • major OS versions are, usually, non-breaking

        • new DE… same as the old DE but may contain new features. Long live the DE!

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    I too, think the Windows start menu is way too responsive and not buggy enough. /s

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      It used to be when it was basically just a folder of shortcuts. Since the metro interface the start menu has been getting worse and slower.

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        I only know of Win 7 and Win 10, never touch 8, 8.1 nor 11. I still use win10 at work and the start menu is very odd. I like to use the win key to summon the menu and search, but the behavior is very inconsistant, sometimes it’s fast, sometimes very slow, sometimes I can search, sometimes not, sometimes it gives me the file/app i am looking for, and sometimes it decides to go for bing results. I must admit, I actully never ever navigate the menu itself appart from turning off the laptop. It is a very slow and inefficient design element in my opinon.

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    pretend that you’re my late grandma, whom I miss a lot. her favourite pastime at this time of the day was deleting the C:/system32 directory.

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    I only have one machine that’s still running Windows. This would convince me to finally make that zero.

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      I only have one machine using Windows because I don’t want to be “left behind” in the corporate desktop world, but it’s on my “left hand monitor” while my center and right of three monitors are Kubuntu. The specs won’t let me use 11 on any of my systems. My company laptop is still Windows 10 as well because some of our security software doesn’t run on 11 yet.

      If I didn’t have to work in the corporate space, I’d quit Windows in a fast second. I have been using Kubuntu as my daily driver for almost 10 years now.

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    Windows 10 is my last windows. When i upgrade my destop i’m going Mint

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      Linux is my daily driver. I used to struggle with it but it’s on point these days. Proton takes care of 90% of the gaming issues.

      I can’t imagine ever going back to windows, I really can’t.

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        I mean, i only ever use my current desktop for games. My laptop where i do basically everything else is already running mint.

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          Insync takes care of that. I even use Insync on Windows PC’s as it’s better than native cloud syncing apps from the likes of Google and Microsoft.

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      Windows 7 is my last Windows. Windows 10 is my current Windows. Looks like a safe bet to keep skipping at least one version. I did also go from XP to 7.

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        My login screen has my 2 monitors flipped and I can’t figure out how to fix it. Otherwise, I like it.

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          First and formost I found this video that might help you out explaining how to set up dual monitor for linux, I have never had two myself but it seems like a good video to get you started

          1. Try the ‘display’ program preinstalled and see if one of the settings helps you out

          2. You may need to install graphics drivers if you have not already, open the perinstalled ‘driver manager’ app and see if it detects anything needing done.

          3. make sure your update manager has everything up to date. open the ‘update manager’ app and see if anything needs done.

          4. browse through a little of the documentation for xrandr command and see if something rings a bell.

          5. If those options fail, open the ‘welcome screen’ app preinstalled and click on the ‘help’ section in the left hand side of the app. From there click on the launch button for the IRC chat room. It will open up a program to directly talk with very knowledgeable Linux mint community volunteers who will be more than happy to further help you in real time. Keep in mind depending on time of day or circumstance you may have to wait a little while for someone to be available.

          I feel bad that you encountered an issue right away, I hope you have quick success in fixing it.

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    All the “X company may/could/might” and “X plans on this” news feel like they’re just feeling for a reaction from the public to see what they can and can’t get away with. If it gets too much push back, they just put it on the shelf and boil the frogs for longer before trying again, like with Google and WEI. It’s tiring. Stop being evil you corpo fucks.

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    This type of information, encourages me to move quickly to a linux distro of choice.

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      encourages me to move quickly to a linux distro of choice.

      Fedora, Steam, Bottles.

      Fedora/KDE for the quality support and stability of your Linux distro, Steam for, well, Steam, and Bottles for non-Steam games, that still lets you launch those games from inside Steam.

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      Agreed. I have already been contemplating it. When they finally brick my Windows 10 desktop I will be switching for sure.