• DankDingleberry@lemmy.world
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    22 days ago

    “Requiring federal employees to come to the office five days a week would result in a wave of voluntary terminations that we welcome”. this is and was always the reason american businesses were eager to force everybody back tp work. eat the rich.

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    22 days ago

    I agree! If Elon musk cannot show up to his offices at Tesla, SpaceX, Twitter, xAI, and Washington for 8 hours Monday-Friday, he should be fired without severance as CEO or co-chair of his government department.

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    22 days ago

    So, he and his cabinet will be working 8 hours a day at least 5 days a week in DC ? Can we get that in written please ?

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      22 days ago

      Maybe not in DC, but don’t underestimate how many hours most of these psychopaths actually work. They do come to work (maybe not in DC, but to some office somewhere) and work for 100 hours a week, because they place no value on anything other than work. You can fault them for many things, but billionaires are almost always true psychopaths with no concept of anything beyond working to achieve power.

      Trump is a different story. He’ll say the golf course is his office, where he makes his deals.

      • Semi-Hemi-Lemmygod@lemmy.world
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        22 days ago

        You can fault them for many things, but billionaires are almost always true psychopaths with no concept of anything beyond working to achieve power.

        I can definitely fault them for that

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        21 days ago

        Disagree. When you look at their schedules a lot of work hours are actually like lunch meetings or golf trips or whatever they need to do to justify networking without actual work.

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          I remember my last job, I would have to take days off for sick days, or half days for the Dentists. My boss however would send out emails like “Hey I am going out of town to Palm Springs, I’ll be there for 3 weeks, I will be available for phone from the golf course so I am really only taking 2 days of PTO”

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    22 days ago

    Unless Musk somehow copied himself several times, he is working remote for most of his companies each day.

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        He does some work.

        Don’t forget the shitty sub he designed

        Guessing he designed the “Hyperloop” too. Ie. The single car wide tunnel that is prone to jam after a car fails and it’s claustrophobic

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    Saying the quiet part out loud again.

    They believe that us not being forced to do what they want simply because they want it is a “privilege,” and one that they can and will just arbitrarily decree to be null and void.

    That says pretty much everything you meed to know about what they really think about everyone other than themselves.

    And ironically enough, what they think is that they themselves are privileged.

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    Then they aren’t really about efficiency, are they? When properly set up, WFH for office work is very effective and efficient.

    • DankDingleberry@lemmy.world
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      22 days ago

      they already said it themselves: “Requiring federal employees to come to the office five days a week would result in a wave of voluntary terminations that we welcome” so no, it was never about efficiency. at all.

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      22 days ago

      But think of the billions of dollars of now unused office space. That’s horrible for real estate pricing, which is where many of these fucks are invested.

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        It’s not even a real estate issue sometimes. I worked in an office in an industrial facility- printing custom boxes. Everyone in an office job was on a hybrid schedule. No one’s job required them to be at the office. All conversations were by Slack, all meetings were by Zoom even if we were all in the office. They could have knocked down the office space and put in at least two more industrial printers. Considering how backed up we got around Christmas, that would have helped them.

        Some of this is just old assholes who think people need to be in the office all the time so they can watch them or something. I don’t know.

        At least they didn’t make me wear a tie.

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      They are about more efficiency in enriching themselves. Forcing people back into inefficient office-based work is just a tool to fire huge chunks of them while filtering for those easier exploited.

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    You got to love this. The Pentagon just failed its 7th audit in a row. It has a budget of $1tr. And yet the cost savings team decides that penny pinching by making life harder for workers is where the real savings are to be found. Not the giant black hole of finance which is the military industrial complex.

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      Noooo shhhhh, we’re not supposed to talk about HOW THE PENTAGON HAS NEVER PASSED AN AUDIT. We’re supposed to be talking about the border, come on people, get it together.

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    Ha ha, joke’s on them. Our office doesn’t have space for all of us. We downsized to …gasp… save money, which is what the federal government is supposed to do. They’d also have to renegotiate the union contract, something they just finished doing, so it’s not something they really even can address for several years at least.

    But Biden isn’t squeaky clean on this either, he mandated some percentage of office space being utilized. Supposedly this was to help local businesses, like the fast food chicken place across the street that has survived without us there for almost 5 years now. (They were renovating our building and had us all move out during the pandemic.)

    But there’s something wrong with the formula being used to calculate utilization of the building - and in our case, even if every cube was full every day, we still wouldn’t meet the requirement, because of how it’s calculated. I don’t have details, but it apparently includes space people can’t occupy - like server rooms and the cafeteria - and there’s no way to get an exception.

    I’m pretty sure upper management would continue the telework setup if they could (I really think they intended to be primarily remote before the Biden administration put the brakes on it). But higher authorities have said no. Our current telework agreement is that we have to go into the office twice per pay period (two weeks), which isn’t too bad, but I’d still prefer not. My return to office is scheduled for February. We’re bracing for a lot of people to find other jobs or retire, and it has already begun.

    I’m hoping to retire in about 7 years. Maybe this next administration will buy me out. I’d be open to a generous severance package.

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      21 days ago

      Office real estate.

      https://www.forbes.com/sites/adigaskell/2023/03/05/how-remote-work-has-affected-real-estate-values/

      This has had an understandable impact on office values, which fell considerably and remain below 2019. The author believes these valuations will remain below those levels for the next decade.

      Simulations of office values, that took into account remote work rates, show that the value of all NYC office properties dropped by more than 40% in 2020. Predictions for 10 years after the shift to working from home suggest that office values in 2029 will remain an average of 39% lower than they were in 2019.

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      It doesn’t give the same feeling of power to the people in charge if they don’t see the drones workers sweat.

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        Yup. It’s all about that sense of control. That’s what they’re paying for. I saw a quote from a survey of execuitives: “I don’t know if my employees are walking their dogs for 4 hours per day when they’re working from home, but I know they can’t walk their dog when they’re in the office”.

        Keep in mind, business execuitives are known to believe shit like, “when I go to the gym, that’s work, because I need to be healthy for the business”.

        They believe they own us. They believe they deserve to.

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      Yes. Much more power to a small amount of rich morons and sycophants while firing most people actually doing government day-to-day work makes the government smaller…

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    I contract for uscis. It’s fully distributed, there’s no way to enforce this without crippling the agency. So it would hobble the mass deportation plan. Very curious how this might turn out

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      Since they’re both just mouthing off about things they have zero understanding of, based on an over-inflated sense of their own knowledge and competence, this will probably turn out about like most things Trump has tried to do. It’ll either go nowhere and they’ll just stop speaking of it, or they’ll try to force something through and make a mess that someone else will have to clean up.