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  • I’ve soured on it recently, if you gave everyone $1000 a month then your landlord is just going to raise your rent by $1000.

    UBI empowers tenants and alternate living situations.

    1. Every neighbourhood is instantly gentrified. That can be higher rents, but its good for shopping deserts and no crime.
    2. You have “move out” money if the landlord is an asshole.
    3. Renting rooms to people is lower risk because you know they can pay.
    4. Home ownership, is more bankable because you have income security independent of your job. Again, subleting/renting parts of home is easier if you lose your job.
    5. You can move to brand new area, including lower cost “ghost town” areas without having a job lined up first.
    6. If you don’t want to work, you don’t really need to be living in high cost city. Smaller/cheaper towns look fine.

    Sure people will want nicer places to live, but there’s more options than renting with UBI, and other power dynamics that permit tenants to escape due to other options.




  • Unfortunately with our concept of ownership there will be massive resistance to it as “I own the machines that make the products/increase productivity, why should you get anything from my profit?” They’re going to have to relearn the lesson Ford learned about “well paid employees are your customers” the hard way.

    The only alternative to UBI, and Trump presidency a big step towards that alternative, is the oligarchy that needs less slaves support genocide and AI/Robotic security for the oligarchy. UBI is similar to that “Ford mythology” of increased sales through population that can afford more cars, and Ford getting plenty rich from more car sales. Still an oligarchy that is hyper focused on slavery instead of that obviousness of making more revenue is not one that reacts to “slavery alternatives” of protecting their existing wealth/power through genocide towards an understanding of a sustainable and prosperous world enriching them too.


  • Musk, of all people, put into vernacular UHI (universal high income), which is similar to Andrew Yang’s “freedom dividend” in that the goal is not to provide “basic” just above slavery/desperation survivability, but instead leverage the huge economic growth from automation that can provide a dividend to every citizen, who by equal vote, deserve an equal share in the surplus/output of the country.

    The Swiss proposal you quoted does seem like crack, for purposes of appearing like crack and not getting accepted. Freedom dividends can grow to that ammount without it being the initial implementation

    left vs right

    The left tends to offer crack. The crack part that the left distorts UBI with is keeping all of the stupidity of current system. 50%-100% clawbacks on low incomes. Keeping existing welfare systems. Some right wing versions, Milton Friedman from Nixon era, also offer 50% clawbacks on low income. The only other right wing version of UBI is a cardboard box housing alternative that replaces all current government conditional aid with cash for all. The Charles Murray proposal is the least stupid of all of the above.

    Centrist/true UBI can leverage above the Charles Murray model, higher UBI for slightly higher tax rates, that leave people with better than cardboard housing far better off than without the UBI/tax rates. People who don’t like slavery (nominally left voters) could prefer higher taxes and higher UBI than (right wing) people who love slavery, but left and right politicians want misery (maybe one day the miserable will vote left if Israel first rulership is not dominant left objective) in order to appeal to voters, and so tolerating existing politician/electoral power has 0 chance of getting UBI.

    The perfect opportunity to go from “barely above slavery” UBI to UHS, is that even more programs can be cut with higher UBI, and economic growth means higher tax surpluses that we can demand as dividends. At your “Swiss proposal” level of UBI, IDGAF about automation taking my job, I will either play videogames or take whatever useful job I get harassed into accepting all the pay for, but it is very easy to get a $12k-$18k UBI level that is paid for by taxes, and leaves 80%-90% of all taxpayers better off.



  • better alternative, which is Universal Basic Services.

    Absolutely 100% worse. It creates an empire bureaucracy to distribute the subpar services under the same scarcity as subsidized housing today. 10 year+ wait in Toronto and other major cities, btw.

    Cash means you can choose affordable housing that meets your needs, while balancing budget for food or other interests. Government cheese may not be as necessary to you compared to milk and eggs, or “better cheese”. Housing is especially corrupt and inadequate to subsidized distribution. You need to add income/asset conditionality on who can qualify even if almost everyone would like to get the discount. Its a great recipe to create ghetto neighbourhoods that a politician may wish to make worse in order to oppress the ghetto harder. You can’t escape the ghetto because you’ve got a cheap housing option. It makes other housing more expensive because “good neighbourhoods” have a premium when there are bad neighbourhoods.

    UBS is everything that is wrong with our society, one step forward.

    What this looks like is publicly owned housing; a robust, fully-funded public education system that includes pre-K and higher ed; universal healthcare

    While universal healthcare is a proven cost saver, the other’s don’t need to be centralized/governmentalized. While the government/private sector can both build “soviet” style affordable housing, they can do so in a market system that provides affordable housing, while still providing a reasonable private profit margin, or government break even.

    Education costs can be market based, when you give each family a stipend they can use for education. Only desperation would force you to send your child to a coal mine instead of school, but parents could choose to adequately feed their children and spend less on home school, with computers and online learning, then force a child that doesn’t want to be in school into a public institution. Baltimore/DC school districts spend $30k per pupil, largely to make a school to prison pipeline with excessive security needed to control kids who don’t want to be there.

    UBI instead of UBS also means hope for young students who will be able to afford university if they are qualified, or otherwise afford surviving outside of a criminal gang support structure.



  • humanspiral@lemmy.catoAsk Lemmy@lemmy.worldAre you in support of UBI?
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    UBI is the only solution to our corrupt politics. It disempowers the state and empowers individuals. You can stop relying on promises from fake heroes to help the poor, and completely eliminate poverty and crime.

    AI and robotics is often cited as a catalyst for UBI. But it is deeply connected to political corruption. Our asshats will tell you that tech oligarchy deserves all our money, and nationalism means our weapons, oil oligarchs need to be given the rest of our money, and what little US manufacturing there is, needs to be protected so that you pay through the nose for stuff. All of this is BS. Let robotics/AI/China deliver us cheap stuff, and UBI afford not only to buy the cheap stuff, but let us have our time freed up in order to design/sell even more productively made stuff/tech that can improve the lives of those who will pay us for it.

    UBI does not stop the rich from getting richer. It grows economy significantly, and all money trickles up to the rich. UBI does disempower the rich from stealing your money, through war and war posturing. AI, without UBI, needs to be weaponized as national security that includes the same media disinformation on your tolerance for warmongering empire that makes you/us poorer.

    Every disgusting demonic evil inflicted on Americans by politicians is entirely the result of oppression and fearmongering to support unethical evil out of fear of homelessness, and healthcare access. You cannot support a sustainable world if society is on the verge of collapse and there is some war you idiotically are made to tolerate. Misery gives you no time to cure your stupidity. UBI frees us all into doing something useful instead desperately clinging to a job that does not produce anything worthwhile or competitive. 5 recruiter calls per day offering you a better job cures your stupidity.


  • afaik, without a need for error correction a quantum computer with 256 bits could break an old 256 bit RSA key. RSA keys are made by taking 2 (x-1 bit) primes and multiplying them together. It is relatively simple algorithms to factor numbers that size on both classsical and quantum computers, However, the larger the number/bits, the more billions of billions of years it takes a classical computer to factor it. The limit for a quantum computer is how many “practical qubits” it has. OP’s article did not answer this, and so far no quantum computer has been able to solve factoring a number any faster than your phone can in under a half second.




  • Pulp fiction has to be top, hunny bunny. Kill Bill would make a top list of Japanese gore movies, but that doesn’t make them good movies. 1 over 2. Towards the bottom. Jackie Brown is a very strong police/mob movie, but just ahead of kill bill series.

    Inglorious and Django are both hateful, and grating at parts, but both great films. Christof Waltz acting taking the show, though the script/writing counts.

    DeathProof is good, but Jackie Brown better. Reservoir dogs is in this cluster. I’d put tied with Jackie Brown.

    The hateful 8 is a very good movie. To me, is 2nd to Pulp. Jules is not back there on brains picking detail, motherfucker, but there is dead negroe storage.

    Once upon a time in Hollywood is just ok. Bonus points for historical value as hateful 8 has. Still I’d put it in kill bill group, and just behind.

    I’d put Inglorious and Django in the hateful 8 cluster instead of the Jackie Brown cluster… and so I have ranked them all.








  • There are plenty of alternatives to eat the rich.

    UBI does not make the rich any poorer. It just decentralizes power so that all can survive and eliminates crime.

    While our electoral politics is divided between either “pro business” or “hamas supporting communist radical left”, it could seem reasonable to constrain oligarchy and Israel first rule while still being pro economic growth and prosperity. This requires an “eat the media stooges” who refuse to tell the difference along with a forceful message that the DNC doesn’t support.

    Understanding that DNC are worthless pig fuckers meant to fundraise and not empower ordinary people is step 1 to progress.