Literally had some apologist neoliberal try to scold everyone yesterday for finding satisfaction in this because Brian had two kids.
His policies KILLED kid’s parents, solely to increase private shareholder profits.
Their parents had to die because Brian’s ego score line had to go up faster. 🤷
And unlike his kids, the kids whose parents he killed largely don’t have blood drenched trust funds to support themselves materially.
Not just parents dying but kids too. It was this guy’s responsibility to make sure the people who managed the company would refuse as much life saving care for children as possible. I do not endorse anyone to commit murder ever, but I won’t be shedding any tears when a monster like that is shot down. I do think it’s okay to feel some sympathy for his kids, but they’re wealthy. They’ll probably be okay in time.
The kids are innocent in this and I don’t see why feeling bad for them is incompatible with being ok with their father’s death.
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I wonder how much was really lost. What type of father do you think he would be? Loving? Empathetic? Caring? Supportive?
More likely he was a cunt who was probably never home.
Thoughts and prayers though.
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Maybe, but the lives he took also had value.
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You might be right. It’s easy shit to say when it’s just a name on a screen.
I really don’t care that he died, and it does seem like a net positive.
Come to think of it, no one ever said the thoughts and prayers had to be kind…
Thoughts and prayers for him and his family have been determined to be out of network.
I’m sure his family have more than enough money to be able to sleep comfortably at night
True. The’re probably secretly happy to see the asshole gone too.
Would be biblical. There are many prayer psalms where the author is asking God to avenge him and destroy those who hurt him.
And that would fit perfectly with the OT god who was a petty, jealous, all around annoying, piece of garbage.
I’ll never forget what he did to my boy Job.
In this case it’s more about God being fair and just.
And that description doesn’t at all fit God’s actions in the OT. Although without context and depending on the hermeneutic basis I guess it can look so.
The book of Job is a tale to teach about human nature facing adversity.
The Old Testament literally describes God with such petty human emotions as “jealousy,” and its behavior throughout the OT coincides with that.
If you don’t think that’s true, I urge you to read it again. Yahweh was a narcissistic, genocidal maniac. Literally, the first two commandments are about making sure nobody worships or acknowledges anyone but him. Just reeks of insecurity.
And whatever copium you need to accept the outright cruelty your so called “all -loving” god bestowed upon Job (and his family) in order to what, win a bet with the literal devil?
Fucking awful story with an awful message no matter how you spin it.
I remember feeling like I had to come up with all these little things to convince myself that whatever new aspect of reality i just learned about can still coexist with the claims of Christianity… Don’t miss it.
Zealous not jealous.
I went to theology seminary, no need for copium or spin. One of the professors’ favourite book was Job and he talked a lot about it.
That absolutely is not the nature of God in the OT, but explaining it doesn’t fit this medium. I also don’t know/remember any resources I could point you to, sorry.
Lol oh honey… Why not start in Exodus, and then check just about every book of the OT after that. It is like one of the most repeated things in the OT:
https://www.openbible.info/topics/god_is_a_jealous_god
5 You shall not bow down to them or serve them, for I the Lord your God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and the fourth generation of those who hate me,
Ooof, imagine getting that in a text from your jilted ex… No thanks. Talk about petty.
Or did they accidentally replace every “z” with a “j” (even though it was a different language)?
We can get into a debate about theology if you’d like, but I believe based on your previous comment that it would be a mistake for you.
Job is very straightforward, and the message is straightforward. The problem is, the message completely ignores the real world consequences that befell a (supposedly) real man and his real family. We can completely ignore the fact that he was god’s most loyal follower (though it does make it more fucked up)…
I do not stand for a god that would put that kind of injustice onto a group of people just to prove a point to what we’re supposed to consider the most evil entity that has ever existed. Do you not see how absurd that is? You are defending the absolute destruction of a man and his family in order to defend concepts that you cannot even demonstrate are real.
Yes, languages and words and their meanings change with time, both words were once the same.
Job should be read from the perspective that humanity, by choosing to turn away from the source of all life and good, has only death and suffering as its just existence. Every moment that anyone has that is not death and suffering is a gracious gift of love from God. Job even acknowledges that all he had was not his, just loaned from God.
Thoughts and prayers that some of the lesser residents of hell may catch a break while the demons focus their attention on Brian Thompson.
Quite usually it’s code for ‘i don’t give a shit but will do the absolute minimum for the sake of public perception’
So, if the assassin’s claim was to be rejected due to CEO policies and his life would be in danger, would he be able to say it was a self defence?
No self defense can only be claimed against someone of equal or lower economic class, or power
Jebus, this is so depressingly truthy.
Thoughts and prayers for his victims and their loved ones.
Honestly, I’m glad that guy is dead, and if that makes me a bad person I guess I’ll just have to live with that.
Hard to feel bad when a Machiavellian asshole like that actually suffers consequences. Sucks that he was immune to consequences from the legal system with all that money. If that wasn’t the case he might still be alive to go to jail.
fuck that guy. more of them need to die. shooter isn’t a villain, he’s a god damned hero.
I used to work in medical billing and dealing with UHC denied claims was the absolute worst. I’m actually surprised that the denial rate is 32%. It seemed much higher.
I feel like someone should compile a list of suspects (read: denied claims) and read them off loudly at every memorial event for him.
Where’s the Westboro Baptist Church when we need them? Getting punched by rich people would be a nice lawsuit.
Your claim for prayers has been denied.
And the thoughts?
Thoughts require pre-approval, which he did not seek.
Today we mourn @el_abuelo as he was not able to get proper treatment. UHC had denied his claim for prayers, but it took months to even get that, and by the time they were ready to make a judgement on thoughts, he had passed away.
Why is he on a cloud? A fire would have been more fitting?
Smoke cloud from the fire.
May the shareholders be with him
Literally
Kaiser’s is artificially low because of the vertical integration.
Is that true? My initial thought was that it’s because Kaiser Permanente is a nonprofit. Unless I am mistaken.
Yes, it’s true. Its nominal “nonprofit” status doesn’t stop it from being a major market competitor with a history of regulatory capture, paying its CEO more than other insurance companies do, and having vast cash reserves, for example.
No, of course it doesn’t… but I imagine when you don’t have a profit motive, your motive to deny claims also decreases.
Just a theory though.
The problem is that they still have an apparent profit motive.
They do, but it’s obviously not nearly as disgusting as the rest.
My spouse works for PPO insurer and has worked for Aetna, and she always jump on my Kaiser plan if I work for an employer that offers it. Her coworkers often do the same.
All healthcare in the US is embarrassingly bad, but Kaiser often does cover more and charges less than comparable PPO plans. Problem is, navigating it can be tricky if you’re used to PPO life.
We’re with Aetna right now. We fucking hate it. The love to force out of pocket payments for preventative care. Aetna rather you just hury up and die so they don’t have to pay for you.
My main concern with Kaiser is that it severely limits the pool of covered doctors and specialists. All the Kaiser plans I’ve seen also have higher out-of-pocket maxima with zero out-of-network coverage.
Covered doctors and specialists… out of network… people on Reddit kept telling me my socialised universal multi-payer healthcare by statutory health insurance, would mean I could not see the doctor I wanted and would wait forever for services. And sure, for everything that’s not immediately necessary I do wait some time. But for all things acute I can go to any general practitioner who will either provide immediate help or forward me to a specialist for immediate help. No matter where in my country I am, no matter which hospital, GP or specialist I go to, everything important is covered. And I pay less per month for it than Americans do.
Don’t worry, we already know… None of it makes sense in any context besides “making money for corporations and wealthy stock holders”
Out of curiosity, what country?
The limited of out-of-network coverage is kind of the point of Kaiser. There are some times that they’ll do it if they’ve understaffed in a specialist’s area, if it’s emergency / trauma care, etc. But the main point is to try to keep things within the non-profit network, and to limit the cost creep imposed by the for-profit healthcare providers.
As for out-of-pocket, that really depends on the plan you’re buying or your employer is negotiating. When I was picking a Kaiser plan, I was usually choosing between similar PPO offerings with comparable out-of-pocket.
My wife and I, and many of her insurance coworkers, have found that the PPO plans often hide the costs. It looks good on paper at first, but the TOS about what is and isn’t covered can often be much more profit-driven in the PPO space. And you often don’t learn about these details until you need care or a medication.
So it’s the vertical integration.
Isn’t Kaiser multiple SEPARATE entities? For example their multiple doctor/medical groups are FOR PROFIT and Kaiser (the insurance company portion) is NON-PROFIT? Complicated structure, but I’ve always seen and heard good things from Kaiser. Sure there are complaints just like for any company that deals with healthcare, but Kaiser always seems like the best option.
Good ole Kaiser
You know, I’ve had my gripes with them, but they have not once denied a claim for me. I even had a fully covered precautionary MRI because a couple of my family members have died suddenly from aneurysms in the past.
I’m positive UHC would have said “LOL that sucks. Good luck tho!”
I started with Kaiser, switched employer and had Anthem. Switched again and went back to Kaiser. My experience was just better with them. And yes, I prefer universal healthcare to this BS.
And yes, I prefer universal healthcare to this BS.
Oh, by leaps and bounds. I think most Americans would absolutely agree with you, if they weren’t poisoned by propaganda and “Obama care bad.”
I recall when Bernie briefly forced the subject into the public consciousness before the Dems forced him out and buried it again, there was a study done on this. It found that when universal healthcare was described in plain language without buzzwords that have been poisoned by propagandists, something like 70-80% of Amerians support it.
They don’t deny claims, they just refuse to let you see a specialist that would generate the claims in the first place.
Perhaps the 9mm pistol is the guillotine of the next American revolution.
A horrible human being died yesterday
