• erogenouswarzone@lemmy.ml
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    Ok, it’s true college isn’t what it used to be.

    A college degree used to be rare, meaning you could get any degree and do any job.

    Obviously, it’s not like that anymore. Everyone has a degree. You need to get a degree that means something.

    If you have rich parents that will support you, great, you can fuck around and graduate after 8 years with an English degree, and you’ll be alright.

    If your parents aren’t rich and can’t support you indefinitely, you need a degree in something that is hiring or will be hiring when you graduate. Preferably, with a large paycheck, so paying back the loans is reasonable.

    Or, ya know, just don’t go to college. Learn to weld or install sattelite dishes, or even better, be a general contractor. You can make a goddamn fortune as a general contractor.

    Or, do what Mark Twain did, and mary into wealth. Love is fake anyway!

    But, ya know, being 18 and impressionable to romantic ideas, it’s tempting to think you don’t have to follow this guidance and get an art degree and you’ll be fine. Don’t fall into that. Be smart.

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    Going to university means you have a better chance than average at getting a good paying job*, not that you will get one.

    *assuming you didn’t degree in some low-pay field or something.

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    Going to a good university and getting a degree in STEM means you get a good paying job.

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      Goes to expensive university and gets a worthless degree

      Surprised when it doesn’t pay that well

      I graduated college in 2022 with an electrical engineering degree and $0 in debt as I worked through it.

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      Partner has a STEM master’s degree from a good university. I make the same amount in desktop support with no degree.

      Dad has an MBA. Works on databases for a living.

      Sister has Bachelor’s in Industrial Design from a top design school in the US. Has worked for big name industry players. She make more money from her 1 year self-paced coding boot camp.

      Most degrees are worthless these days, and it’s high time we start demanding refunds. Cancel student debt. The promises made to us in highschool about career paths were blatantly false. Also, tax billionaires.

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    I don’t understand people who go study for a profession that’s hard work and low wage, and then complain that it’s hard work and low wage.

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      A lot of people, myself included, grow up thinking that a person’s job is the most important aspect of their life, and often hear the phrase “Do what you love and you’ll never work a day if your life.” So, they find a job they would like - something that fits with their identity - because that’s how the world had been explained to them.

      I spent 8 years working toward my “dream job,” and realized I hated it within 6 months of getting my first position in the field. Then I quit, and spent 6 months wallowing on my own self pity for having lost the cornerstone of my identity.

      Once I got back on my feet, I got a boring white collar job in a field I wasn’t interested in, rebuilt my identity with things I was actually interested in, and realized that working is just a thing I have to do to survive, not some life calling that’s supposed to define who I am as a person.

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        Work to live vs live to work

        Sounds like you’ve been surrounded by live to work people, the saddest most pathetic people in society (unless they own the actual business they are slaving for, that’s a different dynamic)

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      the real mistake is going to school for the job you want (with exceptions like being a doctor).

      I went to literal clown school, I’m considered top of my game in the corporate world and have been head hunted for my last 3 jobs.

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    Going to University means you have a chance at a good paying job. Depending on the job, likely a better chance then someone who didnt go. I make decent money and did not go, however I am incredibly lucky and am not betting on that for any children i have. Trades or University/College is a must.

    That being said, how about the Government reduces the cost of post-secondary education, instead of allowing banks to earn off billions of school loans each year. Here, they do reduce it for citizens, however not nearly enough. Additionally, many graduates end up moving to other countries because the pay is lower here.

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    University is in the end what you make out of it.

    Talk to people, make some connections - this is what might end up landing you a job, not necessarily what they teach you or the diploma you might or might not get.

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      It also teaches you things like time management and organization and generally how to be an independent adult. Of course, it’s not the only way to learn these things, just like it’s not the only way to learn math or computer science. But it’s holistically a culture which is structured around these things, and is a massively helpful stepping stone for a lot of people.

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    Your wrong little Billy. It can help in getting you a we’ll paying job, it it depends on both your degree and perception.

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    Did you use your time at university to network and make lasting connections with people who will likely be more successful than you? Because that practically guarantees a job. If you kept your head down and did nothing of note except get a diploma, you wasted your time.

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    I barely scrapped through high school and now 20 odd years later I’m in an office job on a 6 figure salary. One of the lucky ones I guess?

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    What did you spend your money on?

    A degree focusing on intensive career training in a field that is highly demanded, and networking,…

    or a “life experience” and a degree in underwater basket weaving?

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      I mean I get why people like being edgy about this, but the statistics don’t lie. A bachelor’s degree on average increases weekly pay by about 50% over an associate degree or trade/apprenticeship. You can absolutely make a good living without a degree, but they are definitely worth the cost for most people.

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        Yeah editing my comment,y my “success” part just meant following a profitable major

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    Yeah, fuck that. I didn’t go because I had no interest in sitting in yet more classrooms listening to people drone on and smelling other people’s farts for 4 more years