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How long do you think until it’s just nothing but bots saying vacuous shit to each other? Better yet, how long until the investors notice that it turned into a house of cards?
Oh, I totally get where you’re coming from! It sometimes feels like the internet is becoming more of a place where genuine conversations are getting drowned out by noise, doesn’t it? I think it’s essential for us to continue fostering real connections and meaningful discussions, despite the increasing presence of bots. Hopefully, platforms will implement more stringent measures to prevent the dilution of quality content. Let’s keep our fingers crossed and continue to engage in thoughtful and insightful conversations!
(I felt so dirty copypasting that…)
I felt so dirty copypasting that…
It gave me a slight shiver just reading it. Set off some uncanny valley alarms.
Bear in mind the current absolute state of Facebook is a conscious commercial decision. Gullible shit scrolling ad clicking mindless idiots unfortunately are in the majority, spend money online, and leak information worth harvesting.
Utter state of the internet 2023… Should have stopped at usenet.
Lol. Funny you say that. Been pondering poking at Usenet to see how bad it is.
I was often accused of being a bot on Reddit. Not sure really why. Though to be fair, the majority of my interactions on Reddit were arguing with people that thought they knew more than I did about a field I’ve worked in for 20+ years.
To be fair to the other side, it’s entirely possible (and even common) to have worked in a field for 20 years while learning completely incorrect things about it. Or learning nothing.
People say things like “I’ve used a computer every day for 20 years, I think I know how it works” and then ask if they should “reboot the hard drive” and then they power cycle the monitor.
You can also form very strong opinions early in your career and not know when they’re now invalid due to changes in tech/industry.
Was getting a quote for a new heat pump and had the guy tell me they were worthless if it got too cold. There have been consumer heat pumps that work down to -15°C with very little efficiency loss for well over a decade at this point. He had just been used to them not being worth it for long enough that he “didn’t believe it”.
Ah, the classic stick to their guns instead of doing a quick search to find something new even when there has been a lengthy amount of time between the last time they did initial research and now.
I would get accused on being a bot when talking about specific topics. For example Ukraine war or some Chinese topic. I wonder if it’s bots calling other people bots. Muddy the waters.
Astroturfing is rampant and is only going to get worse from here on out. Don’t trust anything you read
I get called a bot in a good portion of my comments here lol. Depending on the accuser, I’m either a Russian or Chinese bot or I assume a Biden apologist bot idk.
I’m going with it and learning binary.
Hexadecimal is an easier transition from life as a human to life as a bot. 48657861646563696D616C20697320616E20656173696572207472616E736974696F6E2066726F6D206C69666520617320612068756D616E20746F206C696665206173206120626F742E
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are you neurodivergent or is english a foreign language? for some reason those folks tend to get labeled as bots.
¿Por Qué No Los Dos?
Does it SEEM like I’m neurodivergent (wtf is that anyway, why does everything need a fancy label?), or that English is a second language?
Neurodivergent means anyone with a medical condition that could be seen as brain pathways either being disrupted, or gone, or rerouted. A few examples would be AD(H)D, Autism Spectrum Disorder (Including things such as Asperger’s), and Obsessive Compulsive Disorder.
Edit: Changed Autism to ASD, and switched out Schizophrenia to OCD as it’s more apt for the term as a whole.
Guess i just don’t get why everything needs a fancy new label every few years.
Having proper diagnoses for people help them get care and treatment. It’s better than calling them all “stupid” and ignoring their struggles, which has been the case for decades.
Most of these “fancy new labels” you’re hearing lately are just recognizing people, so they can be included in society and treated with dignity.
According to the prior explanation, they already had labels. ADHD, Autism, etc. But now it’s all lumped into “Neurodiverse” or whatever. Sounds like someone trying to impersonalize others. “oh just lump them all together”.
In this case, it’s mainly a catch-all for folks to easily find help and or others with their conditions.
Yeah, so much easier than being precise in your ailment.
who am i to judge?
not sure why
Because cornered redditors love ad-hominem attacks and “bot” and “shill” are particularly popular because they can be applied in just about any context.
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In my experience,
Yes.
telling you about how much experience they have are the least competent
Oh
Not how much experience you claim to have.
Experience is worth a lot. Even idiots with a lot of experience can be very good at something. Smarter people need less experience to be good at something - but they still need it. As for changing technology - IT changes but the principles remain the same. Plus there’s a lot of soft skills that never change. Being able to talk to people, manage expectations, guide clients in the right directions, etc… That’s worth a lot more in the long term than being up to date with every new tool or framework.
My manager’s manager and I were having a heated debate about why we need documentation in the company (it was a major reason for delays in my team) and he pulled this BS on me: “I’ve been doing this job for 10 years, documentation goes stale.”
Yeah and so does bread. Should that mean we should never bake bread? (obviously a joke, but really, so fucking what if it goes stale and we have to spend an hour a week keeping it up to date? Literally the entire team wants high level docs and he just keeps saying jUsT wRiTe gO0D CoDe or JuST rEAd tHe c0De)
nah lol. as much as things change, base things i learned 20 years ago DEFINITELY still apply today. Don’t overlook old dogs.
I could see your point in something like IT that changes as rapidly as it does. There are other fields out there that don’t really change much in the past 20-30 years. But good for you.
Just… be careful with being smug about being newer to the field. There’s plenty of shit that no longer applies, but just as much that still does.
For every brand new way of doing things there are multiple pieces of software, hardware, and programming libraries that are just repeated iterations on the original carrying forward the oddities from the past. I’ve lost track of how many times the solution to why something wasn’t working as expected couldn’t be found in the current documentation, but was instead a strange limitation or edge case of the tech it was built on top of, revealed by one of the greybeards on my team having come across it before.
I’m pretty sure bot has been doubling as an insult for a long time now, like NPC
How can you tell that’s it an AI generated comment?
I’ve dealt with this particular bot problem as a mod. Noticing the pattern early on was easy because they always had posts on TEMU subreddits. Now that those subs are banned, it’s harder.
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Comment length. Their comments are always less than two lines long.
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Tone. They always contain at least one exclamation point, and tend to have a tone that I’d say is “cheery to the point it’s offputting.”
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Context. Reading them, a lot of the time you’ll ask “did they even read what they’re replying to?” The comment seems related, but directly misses the main point.
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History. Look at the rest of their comments. If more than one ends in two emojis, they’re definitely part of this particular bot network.
History. Look at the rest of their comments. If more than one ends in two emojis, they’re definitely part of this particular bot network.
All of hexbear is bots, confirmed.
Emoticons ≠ emojis.
Yeah they always sound like the overenthusiastic 45y/o HR lady.
This is dystopian
“cheery to the point it’s offputting.”
Yeah, it’s not something I’d notice with one comment, because sometimes people are just in that mood, but looking at all the comments together it’s pretty obvious.
Hey btw, the vocabulary used is often spontaneous - something a human on the internet never really uses
Wow, alright. Today I learned my neurodivergent ways of communicating online make me sound like a bot. On one hand, booo. On the other, well I did always want to become a robot-human hybrid so… win?
Nah, I scrolled through your recent comments and you’re fine. The description above is sort of close, but not quite – it’s more like every comment is syrupy sweet aggressively cheerful and unnaturally pleased about everything. Lots of overly familiar terms of endearment (friend, buddy, fellow Redditor, etc.). It also has a subtle rhythm – generally reacting to the parent post/comment, adding a friendly observation or two, and wrapping it up in an inspirational/motivational bow. Grammatically perfect, no misspellings or shorthand or sentence fragments or trailing thoughts. Zero negativity. Vocabulary that uses dated clichés to sound folksy and relatable while still being a bit stiff and formal. “Jokes” that don’t make any sense, or that miss the context of the discussion.
Like, here are three ChatGPT responses to your comment when given the prompt “write a friendly reply to this Reddit comment” (which I suspect is similar to the prompt these spammers use):
I totally get where you’re coming from! Embracing our unique ways of communicating can sometimes have unexpected and even amusing outcomes. It sounds like you have a great sense of humor about it! Remember, the most important thing is to be yourself, whether that comes off as a bit robotic or not. Who knows, maybe the robot-human hybrid future is closer than we think! Keep rocking your unique style! 😊
Hey there! Embrace your unique way of communicating. 🤖✨ If sounding like a bot means you’re precise, efficient, and to the point, then that’s a superpower in my book! And hey, who wouldn’t want to be a cool robot-human hybrid? Rock on with your awesome self! 🚀🤘
It sounds like you have a great sense of humor about the situation! Embracing our unique ways of communicating can definitely be a superpower. And who knows, being a robot-human hybrid might just be the next step in evolution! Keep being your awesome self! 😊
There’s nothing technically wrong with these lines, but no real person who isn’t a corporate social media PR manager actually talks like this.
Right, but there’s a lot of people who don’t (or won’t) think that in depth into it. Going by the gist of it, I often fit the criteria for all four: comment length, tone, context and history. Especially with the ‘ending your text with an emoji thing’ lol. I dunno I guess I’m just seeing a lot of frustration in my future of strangers defaulting into thinking I’m not real. I’ve got some childhood trauma with feeling like I don’t exist and I really don’t need more of that soooo… THANKS BOTS. 👍
Hahaha I had to try this to the same comment you did with the prompt "(write a offended reply to this reddit comment) “Are you seriously comparing being neurodivergent to sounding like a bot? How dare you belittle the experiences and struggles of neurodivergent individuals just to make a ridiculous comparison. Your comment reeks of insensitivity and ignorance. Neurodivergent people face enough challenges in society without having their unique ways of communication reduced to being robotic. It’s truly disappointing to see such a disrespectful attitude.”
That is spot fucking on Reddit
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The “Keep scrolling and enjoy the ride, my friend.” is what tipped me off. ChatGPT tends to say stuff like that when trying to be enthusiatic.
You can tell it’s robots by the way it is.
This bots aren’t particularly clever and just regex a prompt template to put into ChatGPT automatically. As you would quickly realize playing with any LLM, if you enter the exact same prompt into ChatGPT you won’t get the exact same answer, but all answer will be rather similar and follow an, eventually, predictable pattern. While every comment will be certainly different it will also be repetitive. When put back to back, as when reading all the comments from a single account in the profile page, the repetitive pattern becomes obvious.
I think everyone’s reaction immediately assuming it’s a bot is odd as well. Everyone’s reasoning is just “you can tell by the way it is”. I’m just sitting here like uhhhh.
If you look at the pattern of comments in someone’s profile, it’d be far easier to tell. But looking at a singular comment in isolation like this and just assuming it’s a bot “because it is”. Ok?? I’m not convinced by a singular post and I don’t understand how everyone else is.
Nobody can accurately. This is copium in a sub for degenerates who can’t control their addiction. It’s grasping at straws because Reddit is still as popular as ever.
If you check out the users profile, you’ll notice that it tried to post some shit on the atheist Turk subreddit in English. Primo bot behavior and dead giveaway. Also the Turks didn’t seem to enjoy it much.
By perusing further, you might notice that the majority of people don’t notice that they are conversing with a fucking bot. This is profoundly upsetting shit
The internet is full of weirdos, of course people aren’t immediately aware they are talking to a bot. They mistake it for an idiot. A tool that tells you which are bots and which are not might be a good solution.
Don’t get profoundly upset about social media
Remember kids:
everyone in reddit is a bot except you.
And bots don’t buy tickets to movies or laugh at my funny jokes, so that’s why I here instead!
Hi Margot, I loved you in Barbie!
Me too, electrogamerman, me too.
If you can’t tell, does it matter?
Sounds like something a bot would say.
If a human says something so bland, it can be confused for a bot, does that make the bot smart or the human boring?
Doesn’t look like anything to me
Calm down there Cypher
Ignorance is bliss
harp music
r/exmuslim on Reddit has been overtaken by far right, neo Nazi, and hindutva hetoric. Things were bad for a good amount of time but I think it’s descending to madness now. Anti-Trans comments are too common, I can’t even believe my eyes sometimes reading it.
exmuslim was always an Islamaphobic shit show, but… damn sister…
I should have guessed… Mods who made no effort to move should have been a red flag. I can see posts from long ago warning about it being overtaken by far right groups.
And so many posts are screaming to deport people as if they are unaware that they will be mistaken for Muslims in a heartbeat in “the West”
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Haha, reminds me of the now banned r/Chodi
Really reddit won’t crash, it’s constant stream of content will keep its userbase alive just like facebook and uh… X
The funny thing is this usually happens when content is selectively and over moderated. Hence why nothing funny is actually allowed on reddit lol
Don’t be a bigot.
They should at least try harder on the names if they’re going to use a bot. That username is obviously just one of the auto generated ones.
Consider deleting all of your reddit content, then nuking your account
Don’t nuke your account. Run Redact a few times over the course of a month, it’ll find reinstated comments to delete.
Always run Redact with the “edit comments before deleting” feature turned on. Deletions can be undone, edits seem to be safe.
Agree 100%
well put.
But I still advocate that one nuke it at the end of the redact process
I wonder if there’s a way to transfer help type information to relevant lemmy communities. Something that the search engines can pick up to direct more people towards lemmy.
I never thought the AI Uprising would benefeit corproate
AI will probably benefit big corporations the most.
Don’t forget small companies too. Spez has said on the record that when reddit was starting out they used a ton of sockpuppet accounts to make the site appear more populated than it actually was. Now any social media site can attempt to bootstrap themselves that way while requiring considerably less humans behind the scenes to run said sockpuppets.
Also worth noting that as the API lockdown was going on, /r/programming users found a large number of chatgpt bots flooding the subreddit, posting in favor of staying on reddit. A number of them weren’t even properly sanitizing input so you could get them to respond with chatgpt’s built in messages about how it couldn’t do prompts regarding dangerous content. Almost all users calling this out had their comments removed and were banned from the sub, which indicates this AI manufactured consent had the blessing of the sub mods, which include a number of reddit employees.
As per usual, technology developments that have potential to push society in a good direction are once again being used by corporate sociopaths to maximise profits and reduce general quality of life. Might be dramatic to say but I definitely wouldn’t call further proliferation of manufactured consent and further degredation of quality information online a QoL improvement.
Imagine some startup that needs to expand quickly, so they turn to AI But instead of using ai to fill in for actual desk workers, they use it to replace middle managers. Then one day the CEO realizes his canned soup company morphed into an arms manufacture by the AI.
For real. Fuck Reddit. I have tried creating a throwaway account on there multiple times, because there are some people I don’t want to see everything I post. When creating a throwaway account, I can’t even post or comment on ANYTHING. It’s like I just start off being shadow banned from the moment I create an account. I’m tired of Reddit’s damn bullshit.
“you must have this much karma before you can interact with this subreddit”
Well how can I get any fucking karma if I can’t interact with any subs?!
Exactly. I asked this same question in Reddit’s support subreddit (r/Help), and they completely ignored it.
Do you guys use brave or get the reddit threads? Now that I know what to look for in bots they have been around for awhile. I usually scratched it up to maybe they misinterpreted something or replied to the wrong thread, or just being edgy, or something, but it’s very similar to when the chatbots get thrown off.
Imagine still using reddit.
