• megabat@lemm.ee
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    Can I use this to make my 48 hour weekend feel like a 480 hour weekend? I really don’t want to be back at work.

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    I know it’s a shitpost, but the idea behind something like this is counter to the point of rehabilitation. Civilization should move towards rehabilitation instead of punishment as the idea is that you want to integrate someone back into society. I am not sure inducing trauma and mental damage is conducive to rehabilitation.

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      Technology like this could actually be used to help the rehabilitation process by dilating time, and allowing the offender to be rehabilitated without actually wasting much of their actual life.

      It would most likely be used for harsh punishment in this universe, but its nice to imagine living in a better one, sometimes.

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        I don’t think so. It probably just screws with the perception of time, I doubt it actually speeds anything up. If it did, we’d be able to use it for way more things than punishment, like for example, doing a deep delve into a subject in a matter of hours.

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      So I was on a jury pool in December.

      After the attorneys for both sides finished their dog and pony show, the judge himself made each of us answer the following question:

      What is the purpose of criminal incarceration?

      A - Punishment

      B - Deterrence

      C - Rehabilitation

      After all seventy five of us had answered, all of us who responded with anything other than punishment were dismissed. Even those who answered a combination of the choices. Nope. Punishment was the only correct answer.

      To my amusement, this barely left enough people available to fill the jury box.

      I followed the case. Guy robbed a convenience store. No death. No injury. Got fifty nine years.

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        That’s just emblematic of a broken justice system. We have to examine what is “justice” for any one case individually, and sometimes punishment may make sense, but even then its severity is determined by humane and ethical considerations. Justice systems can be reformed, the will to do so must be there—even if that means protesting till an objective is achieved.

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      I know it’s a shitpost, but the idea behind something like this is counter to the point of rehabilitation.

      Its counter to our understanding of entropy. Brains simply don’t work like this.

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          https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/12/071211233934.htm

          Even though participants remembered their own falls as having taken one-third longer than those of the other study participants, they were not able to see more events in time. Instead, the longer duration was a trick of their memory, not an actual slow-motion experience.

          Your memory is imperfect. But your actual capacity to perceive time is still limited by the facilities you use for that prescription.

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            One experimental result does not define the entire domain of consciousness.

            You are essentially making a statement of the form “X does not and cannot exist”, which is always a logical fallacy.

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              You are essentially making a statement of the form “X does not and cannot exist”

              Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. This is a Family Guy meme.

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      It’s not complete horseshit. The application might be, but the idea isn’t.

      I remember a Slavoj Zizek anecdote about it.

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    In my experience, the best way to make 8 hours feel like a thousand years is to get a job in IT.

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    As others have said, the rehabilitation aspect is dubious. It depends on what the person “experiences” for that length of time. If there’s therapy in time-dilation-space then sure go right ahead and sign me up as well. I’ll just Goku-it up in my chamber of time and space and work some shit out in time for my morning shit. But you and I both know it ain’t going to work that way. Prisoners will just be trapped in an empty void with only their own thoughts to keep them company, most likely rendering them insane. An infinite solitary confinement is just plain torture.

    Edit: so I googled the article and its laughable how easily the author slides right in to dystopian fanfic. “This would, obviously, be much cheaper for the taxpayer than extending criminals’ lifespans to enable them to serve 1,000 years in real time.” Obviously.

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      One day Steve said: You know what? Keeping a prisoner a life for a thousand years is fucking expensive. What if we didn’t have to?

      And from that conversation our company was born. Little did we know that death sentence is still a thing or that humans don’t even live that long. But boy did we scam some investors.

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    This just sounds like straight up torture with extra steps.

    No rehabilitation, no isolation of dangerous individuals from the general population. I’m decidedly anti-incarceration but at least there are arguments for it in place of something functional and just.

    This just doesn’t solve any problems and adds some new ones. It sounds unbelievably cruel.

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          It’s super unpleasant both in the delivery (eating a sufficient amount of nutmeg for the effects is hard to do without vomiting), and also in experience. Buuut my experience was basically like a fever dream – really bad but not torture-level bad.

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          I remember mixing it with datura? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datura Seeds.

          Overall I am glad I don’t do such stupid things anymore. Can’t remember the effects but I didn’t feel super good overall for the next months even iirc. Tachykardia i think it was and generally fucked up psyche for months

          I still feel like vomiting when thinking about it, 10 years later so it must have been pretty bad

          All species of Datura are extremely poisonous and psychoactive, especially their seeds and flowers, which can cause respiratory depression, arrhythmias, fever, delirium, hallucinations, anticholinergic syndrome, psychosis, and death if taken internally.

          Yeah well shit we didn’t have Wikipedia back then I guess. Psychosis and delirium that sounds kinda it.

          Omg I am reading the article and this stuff is right out of the Witcher Trial of the Grasses. Basically kinda lottery if the seeds will kill you or not because their toxicity depends on age of the plant.

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      There it is. One of the most disturbing episodes in all Star Trek, and it’s exactly this. That and Inner Light, genuinely dark shit.

      O’Brien exists to suffer haha.

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    Naturally, this is the type of thing in sci-fi where we assume it’ll be used to generate massive amounts of income to benefit society in a magnificently short amount of time, and then some bastard comes around and says, “What if we incarcerate people for millenia?”

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    Who is researching this topic without losing sleep, and who reports on this crap in such a blasé manner lol.

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      Without knowing more about the research, my gut tells me that it has been a tad sensationalized. Very little research is actually directed towards a specific goal in mind from the get-go. Normally, there are people researching a specific topic, reporting their findings, and then speculating on potential applications.

      So if I had to guess, there’s some company/institution/organization researching neural interfacing pathways or brain augments or something like that, a hypothesis that introducing X, Y, and Z conditions can alter one’s perception of time, and then under potential applications they list “accelerated prison sentences” as one such possibility. Then suddenly you have sensationalist news articles about how researchers are developing a dystopian system to make 1000 years pass in 8 hours for prisoners.

      This is likely going to end up in the same manner as the dozens of “Scientists may have discovered a cure for cancer” articles that turn up every year.