• Veedem@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    I’m all for people using Firefox instead of Chrome, but RAM being used up shouldn’t be a complaint unless something else needs that RAM. If it’s there, it should be considered usable.

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        9 months ago

        It’s specifically about the efficiency of the usage. If it’s not used effectively, then it really is a waste.

        And we all know how efficient the Web is nowadays…

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          9 months ago

          Why could ram usage be a waste? I thought only the allocation is the performance heavy part, allocated ram does not cost extra performance.

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            I’m referring to the philosophy behind the usage of said allocated ram.

            If you allocate 5 cookie jars to store 1 cookie in each jar, then that’s not good.

            If you store 2 cookies per jar, that’s better already, but still kind of crap.

            If the websites keep putting rocks in those jars, then you’ll obviously run rampant with usage. (Read: https://tonsky.me/blog/js-bloat/ )

            The goal is to store as many cookies in least amount of jars. You might crumble them down and reconstruct them later (compression and/or clever code) but that could take more brain (processing) power (of which we kinda have, especially on the desktop).

            As you’ve said, it’s often a tradeoff between processing power and memory usage and depending on the application, you can configure things the way you need them (at least when you’re coding it).

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      And not very efficiently either, can’t seem to handle 99+ tabs and starts getting unstable as you get closer to that number.

      Chrome at least can handle 300-600 tabs across 30 windows (The most I’ve ever pushed it) without breaking a sweat

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      So for some reason Firefox doesn’t work most of the time on my parent’s ISP. It simply doesn’t find sites 80% of the time. I can take the same wifi adapter and move it to my place and it works fine. I’ve messed arounfld with different DNS and stuff, and I just can’t get it to be reliable there.

      It’s super annoying.

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      9 months ago

      “I’m so used to getting fucked by Chrome and Edge that I just feel like something’s missing if I don’t.”

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      I actually got kicked out of school because I wouldn’t use internet explorer, but Firefox is still the best option. Always was. Even if you need a special chair.

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          Well, it was high school, and they didn’t like my tail plug. Kept calling it ‘inappropriate’. I kept laying out my arguments for why chrome and IE are trash, but they just could not tolerate open source, I guess.

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    people don’t complain to get solutions, they complain so everyone knows how miserable they are

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    9 months ago

    I was at a party a few weeks ago and when we needed to use a web browser, one of the first things that happened was one of the attendees taking the computer to install FireFox.

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    Ngl, I’ve never had issues with either for ram. my experience with Firefox is mostly the sameas chrome with ram usage. The main reason Im on Firefox is cause it’s been a whole lot more stable for me than chrome.

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      It’s about the amount of tabs you keep open. Every site will take a piece of RAM and a max of 5Gb per tab if not mistaken.

      I think GChrome has a feature now where it tries to “kill” the tabs you’re not using to mitigate this issue but it’s opt in.

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      I switched from Chrome to Firefox on my Mac desktop and the memory usage was cut in half at least. I only use it on my Linux notebook, so I have no idea about the memory usage difference there, but there was an unquestionable difference on the Mac. It has 16 gb of ram and is from 7 years ago, so it was before the M-chips and their ram hunger and still gave me memory warnings.

      Now I never have memory issues on it. All it took was switching to Firefox.

      So it definitely makes a difference on some systems.

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      If the majority of ram isn’t being utilized you either have a problem or have entirely to much ram. I’m not saying programs can’t be memory hogs, but they should utilize what resources are there to perform better. It would be like turning on a flash light, using all of the power and then covering half the bulb while trying to cross a field in the dark. The CPU and GPU use more electricity when running at higher percentages, ram is negligible for the most part.

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    Firefox users may very well be doing that and no one will know because Google is not spying on them through their browser.

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      I’d say it’s more the unwillingness to switch from shitty Chrome as if it was a bad thing to do.

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        Chromium browsers have a lot of issues, and so does firefox, but ram usage is not one of chromes weaknesses, Chromium regularly preforms better for me then firefox does under low ram scenarios, Both in terms of chrome being responsive, and in terms of chrome not crippling everything else around it.

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          This is correct. Ive helped a bunch of people (in Linux) complaining that chrome was eating all their ram when in fact it wasn’t. Memory management is hard and it’s easy to look at the wrong indicators.

          It does love its ram but not as much as people think.