• DudeImMacGyver@sh.itjust.works
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    The dystopian cyberpunk future William Gibson tried to warn us about.

    Spoiler: We’re already living in it.

    “The future is already here, it’s just not evenly distributed.”

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    Fascism. It’s fascism.

    Economic and social collapse dislocates a lot of people. It dislocates people who think they shouldn’t be dislocated, because they played by the rules. They go to church, they had a job, they’re patriotic to their best understanding of the word.

    Then, in their minds, something must have changed. It might be the immigrants, or the Jews, or the gays, or weirdly drag queens for some reason this time around. Then someone comes along who validates them as victims and promises a return to their historical glory days.

    The last paroxysm is the election or ascendency of a far right populist who elevates that narrative. They promise to restore national pride and return to traditional values, and to return the nation to its roots which had made it strong and put them on top.

    It’s happened multiple times around the world, and there are a lot of books and articles on how and why it happens.

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      Fascism is a characteristic of capitalist economies - it cannot exist without capitalism.

      So no.

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        Yeas, in the sense that fascism is borne in capitalism, but it’s also marks the end of capitalism and what comes after.

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          but it’s also marks the end of capitalism and what comes after.

          No, it doesn’t. Fascism poses no threat to capitalism and never has - that’s the whole reason capitalists eagerly fund fascists into power. Some fascists might dislike capitalism - such as Franco, for instance - but that doesn’t mean fascism can exist without it in any way, shape or form.

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            Oh you got me wrong, of course fascism is created to serve capitalists, but after the fascist power grab, they don’t need to have the theatre of freedom™ and markets anymore.

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      A square is a rectangle but not all rectangles are squares.

      Just say authoritarianism. Fascism has happened exactly once in modern history. Words have meaning and you don’t get to assign values to them because one helps your political motive better than the other.

  • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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    If there isn’t a large Socialist coalition to combat fascism, then fascism will rise before collapsing even harder. If there is a large Socialist coalition, and that coalition successfully combats the fascist powers, then some form of Socialism will likely replace it, and humanity can continue progressing instead of regressing.

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    Reading the comments here reminds me of that Slavoj Žižek/ Fredric Jameson quote:

    It’s easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.

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      It also fails, though. It’s unsustainable, Capitalists sew the seeds of their own downfall. They just hope they enjoy the ride and pass the buck off to someone else.

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    Post scarcity anarchism. I suggest you read Walkaway by Cory Doctorow. It made me into a (re)believer.

    Feel free to pirate the book. Mr. Doctorow doesn’t mind. He walks the walk.

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      Yes, accompanied by an economic structure far worse than capitalism, and a government style far worse than liberal democracy.

      We got it good.

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    Corporate feudalism was a fun concept I played with in high school, but now that I’m older, I think I was just approaching the concepts of a lot of modern cyberpunk settings portrayed.

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    Automation powered socialism or famine. Depends where you live I guess. Some places will fare better than others. I think predictive factors will be level of corruption and magnitude of wealth gap as well as general education of populace.