… You were supposed to the whole time …
Nothing ever mattered? D:
My wife and I have been on board for decades :)
Next you’ll be telling me I should pronounce the L in island as well!
You mean the s?
I mean the L. Like in salmon.
You actually pronounce the L in salmon?
Edit…the word actually. But also…my bad.
What if I told you nothing is real
How the fuck am I supposed to eat soup with all of these bent-ass spoons?!
Did you mean bent ass-spoons?
Neo, you must meet The Orifice.
Then you wouldn’t really be saying anything.
i-sand… is-and… isund? iand? Ok, I give up, how are you supposed to pronounce it without the L?
Now that is the real question.
I already do this with the word “solder” which confuses my fellow Americans greatly. They seem to think I’m lying that the L is sounded out in some other English speaking countries.
I just think the American pronunciation (SAW-dur) sounds wrong.
I don’t solder, so I’m no expert, but I’ve only ever heard it pronounced “sodder” (though agreed, leaving out the “l” sound is an odd choice).
In UK/Australia/NZ we pronounce it as written, with the l.
It was friends and YouTube content creators from the UK that made me realize that dropping the L isn’t done everywhere else. I grew up thinking that it was just one of those English words that break all the pronunciation rules.
I am today years old learning that it was spelled with an L and not just a D.
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Not to be confused with
soljersoldierI always find it odd that Americans pronounce it so weirdly, but that’s different cultures with different fresh takes on our language I suppose.
I’m in the US and I’ve never heard anyone pronounce it “SAW-dur” in person or in any form of media. You are supposed to pronounce the L in the General American accent.
If you use Google’s word pronunciation tools, both General American and Received Pronunciation pronounce the L in soldier.
Edit: I like the downvotes to all my comments without anyone showing me people pronouncing it that way.
I think this is a misunderstanding. The poster you’re replying to is talking about solder, not soldier (which you wrote, assuming that’s the word you meant). Solder, as in a soldering iron, is pronounced Saw-dur in the US. Ya dingus 😉
Lmao thank you! This is the comment I was looking for. Calling me out for being stupid and making a mistake instead of downvoting without explanation!
Couldn’t even wait longer than an hour to complain about downvotes.
From now on I’ll pronounce Worcester as whore Chester.
In a German quizz show, there was the question how to pronounce it and not everyone know
WORSCHESTERSOSSE
I’m surprised anyone knew.
Leave Chester alone, he’s just misunderstood!
Yeah. Dude has to earn a living somehow.
I speak Spanish and it’s wild to have no many randomly decided silent letters in words. We have the H that is silent always, and that’s it. We have Salmón, with the intonation in the o, and we of course pronounce the L. I can’t even say salmon without the L while not sounding stupid.
No me entra en la cabeza que hagan silenciosa la L de salmón… hasta te diría que me ofende ligeramente esta información.
Just try to pronounce laugh as it’s spelt. I dare you.
Salmon is a type of ghoti.
It has facial hair??
Ghoti (fish) is referring to an old Tom Scott video about the inconsistencies of the English language, right?
okay I did it. It’s pointless to write out what I said. But you get it.
Laowguh-hhhh
You weren’t supposed to do that?
You’re not supposed to? Not a native English speaker.
No, the L is silent. Thank the French for that.
Geuss I ain’t ever gonna pronounce this damn language correctly . You can’t blame this on French tho because in that language it’s saumon pronounced somon. They didn’t drop a consonant in the middle of the word.
The word comes ultimately from the Latin salmon, but we got it by way of French, as we did with so many other food words. The French, as was their wont, had swallowed up the Latin L in their pronunciation, so by the time we English borrowed the word, it was saumon, no L in the spelling and so no L in the pronunciation.
https://katherinebarber.blogspot.com/2020/03/the-l-in-salmon.html
True, we kept the L, but we got the pronunciation from them.
You mean they swa’ed up the letter? ;)
Pronouncing the word based on how another language says it is strange to say the least. Imagine if train had the same treatment. In French it’s a short tr-un instead of English tr-ayn.
Pronouncing the word based on how another language says it
French influence on English is rather unique in this regard. French was the language of the upper class, so an effort was made for English to sound more French when possible.
My favorite example of how this has carried into modern day is the expressions “cordial reception” and “hearty welcome.” They both effectively mean the same thing, but the first, which is latin-derived, sounds fancy, while the second, which is germanic-derived, sounds more informal.
I know this but didn’t fully apprehend how deep the affect was.
If I ever visit an English speaking country I’ll have to remember to say half the words in French to sound very haut class. Lol
It hasn’t been this way for hundreds of years, so you’ll most likely just confuse people! Unless you’re in Canada, maybe.
Sallemonne /s
Edit: Looked it up, the French word is actually “saumon”. The L in the English word probably isn’t from French.
The word comes ultimately from the Latin salmon, but we got it by way of French, as we did with so many other food words. The French, as was their wont, had swallowed up the Latin L in their pronunciation, so by the time we English borrowed the word, it was saumon, no L in the spelling and so no L in the pronunciation.
https://katherinebarber.blogspot.com/2020/03/the-l-in-salmon.html
So no, the L isn’t, but the pronunciation is.
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No, but you do pronounce it in salmonella. English is not a language governed by logic.
you do? i always said it without the l
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Oh sugar, I already do
You know what? You’re absolutely right! We have no future, if climate change doesn’t get us in the next 50 years, or the endless crushing of the working classes under late stage capitalism, then the rising new wave of western fascism will when it takes over.
Nothing matters any more, let’s just do whatever we want <3
SALMON
Partly wish I had Twitter in order to commend them on their choice of Frisky Dingo profile pic, but I’d rather pull the pubes off my scrotum one-by-one with tweezers than visit Twitter so it’s not going to happen.
Anybody want to DM OP for me? Or get their pubes removed?
Instructions unclear: Dm’d OP my pubes
I mean hey, it’s Friday. Why not?
Just as long as I can simultaneously drop the’l’ sound from salmonella
salman rushdie
lol yes! Someone who has actually watched Frisky Dingo!
Let me give it a try “flip flop plop plop”. Still working on my salmonese.
As someone who regularly mispronounces this as rhyming with almonds I feel a little attacked
I also say the following wrong: Ikea, Nutella, idea. Somehow my bilingual brain just gives up.
At the same time, it’s not pronounced as “samon”
It’s either “saemon” or “semen” lol
Is English fucked? Yes, yes, absolutely yes.
Um, Google search for: salmon definition gave the following result for pronunciation: /ˈsamən/ And the voice sounds like “samon”.
