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Switch to Linux
Wtf is a Dropbox again?
> Be me, uses linux
> Need to share ReTHAWed mod files on their website
> catbox.moe does not keep files permanently
> OneDrive and GoogleDrive are too evil 4 me
> Could use ProtonDrive, but no
> Dropbox is handy and familiar to most people
> Now I just give up and use Dropbox because reasonsI use s-ul.eu for my occasional filesharing needs, downloads are no bullshit you click the link you have the file and never had issues with it. Not sure if storage limits on the free tier are lower than dropbox though.
Oh and you get your own url prefix.
Dope, thanks for the info!
I had Dropbox installed on Linux awhile back. Not just a Windows thing.
But did it install itself?
Yes lol
Be me
Computer shat itself
No backups
Skill issue
Real
One day, Linux will be ready for a no-headaches gaming PC. Genuinely looking forward to it.
Everyone will have a different experience based on their hardware, distro, and game preferences; But for me Linux has been a far less headache-inducing gaming platform than Windows literally for years at this point.
I have a gaming PC which I planned to setup a linux distro on for almost 2 years now. I just need to find the time to choose which distro, then debloat it, get the wifi, speakers, keyboard working, then install the required Nividia drivers, then optimize it and study wether OC its bios is worth it or no, then test optimal settings and compatibility, then compare my benchmark FPS results to similar ones on the internet, then open Steam and fucking game on brother lets go!
Yup
Its mostly there if your ready to dump your League addiction. Proton Db has guides for the games that don’t just work first try and most of the fixes are select a different launch option from a drop down in Steam.
Except games with shitty anti-cheat like Battlefield. Those are just unplayable.
I discovered that Helldivers 1 ran fine on Linux despite having an anti-cheat, because when the anti-cheat fails to launch the game just says “fuck it” and runs anyway. Though other games like PUBG refuse to run when their anti-cheat fails. I love PUBG but not so much that I’m willing to let some shady publisher from the other side of the world run unknown and unrestricted code at the lowest level of my home computer just to play it. That will never be a worthwhile trade.
Good.
Though on that note, I started playing a lot of DOTA 2 on linux without issue.
It is native on Linux, just like most of Valve’s catalog, so it should run as well as running a Windows game on Windows.
Some games run worse natively on Linux, because they fall back to some badly optimized OpenGL renderer.
Ironically, from what I understand (haven’t done direct comparisons myself), a lot of games written for windows run just as well or better on linux.
DOTA 2 is just noteworthy to me because it’s an exception to the “other than competitive games” exception. And while I can’t say for sure that no one is hacking on there, I have yet to see any blatant cases of it (though admittedly it might be difficult to tell in a game where it’s normal for some players to snowball significantly over others).
Ironically, from what I understand (haven’t done direct comparisons myself), a lot of games written for windows run just as well or better on linux.
Yes, Wine/Proton translates DirectX calls to Vulkan calls, and Vulkan is so efficient that native Windows games sometimes run better on Linux than they do on Windows.
I’m deeply sorry for your loss.
I had this mindset for about 2 decades, from when I first played around in OpenSUSE and Compiz back in 2005 up to 2024 when I finally switched because of Windows 10 being put out to pasture by Microsoft. But since I’m now in my early 40s and no longer play competitive games as I used to 15 years ago, I’ve had zero problems with Linux and gaming.
So I totally understand your mindset as I too once thought the same.
Problem with waiting is of course that developers don’t favor linux due to lack of people on linux playing game, so it’s a vicious circle:- not playing on linux because it’s not well supported by games
- game devs not making games for linux because not enough players are there.
I hope you enjoy linux when you’re ready.
I switched in my 20s when I stopped caring about competitive games, and I’m always surprised at how little effort it is to do the things I want to do.
This post accurately described my life. High five brother.
already is for me!
Well, is Windows?
So far it’s working fine, yeah. No need to choose among a zillion distros someone swears is the best, I know for a fact there are first-party drivers for everything, no need to fiddle around with CLI, it plays everything my graphics card can muster, and I don’t need to worry about game compatibility or whether Nvidia deigned to support my OS.
Windows has a lot of problems, but if you’re just looking to play games without too much complexity… It’s as close to “it just works” as I can imagine getting without switching to a console (or limiting myself to the few games that work on Apple devices, I guess).
Plus, big argument, it’s familiar. You can forgive more annoyances when you’re not learning something new. Humans are just lazy like that.
First and foremost, I do think Windows is the better choice for most people to play games on, mostly due to vendor support.
However, I’d say that a lot of people have some sort of issue with Windows, albeit probably less than they would have with some Linux distributions. I just wanted to express that “without headaches” is a goal that is maybe higher than necessary.
So far it’s working fine, yeah. No need to choose among a zillion distros someone swears is the best
Nowadays most people just recommend Bazzite if you just want to game
Just googled “best Linux distro for gaming,” and got about 10 different recommendations.
You’re literally the person your quote is describing lol
“Best Linux distro” listicles are notoriously bad for choosing a distro, which doesn’t help at all, but nowadays everyone and their dog recommends Bazzite for people who just want to play games (don’t ask me why, I wouldn’t touch an atomic distro with a 10 foot pole)
Yea, but the issue is, Windows works because others don’t, like linux. Windows gets preferrential baby treatment from all consumer tech manufacturers… A perfect example is my laptop. I have ubuntu on it. NOTHING works right because Lenovo decided to only support Windows and my employer didn’t check and neither did they agree to invest some of my hours to investigate. Now I’m stuck with it. So i ask: is that Linux’s fault, or Lenovo’s, or whose is it?.. Either way it’s not Linux’s fault…
Lenovo decided only to support linux? What?
Ah i see now, “to only support windows” *
Ah okay. Some lenovo devices are good with linux. Interesting.
The drivers for the proprietary hardware are all windows only. And, A LOT of the drivers this machine needs are proprietary. It has a fancy camera with good res and some IR…thing on it, but it only works in 480p resolution and has heavy smearing because 1. It doesn’t use a normal free driver and 2. The driver Lenovo made for it to work is only available on Windows as an exe, and I’m really not knowledgeable enough to try to get it to work on a work machine… If you know what I can do please educate me but I’m not willing to guess and then have to pay for the thing… If you want details it’s the ThinkBook G6 17 IML. The camera thing is just an example.
I have a lenovo machine and it works like a charm with Linux (I think) i assumed they were linux friendly. Maybe not.
I think it depends on the model. I know for example 2017 ThinkPads are excellent with windows, but the new ThinkBooks are seemingly windows-only…
Had this conversation with my brother the other day…I’m all for Linux gaming and he is staying with windows because learning something new is antithesis to his having fun. I totally get it.
What a reasonable person you are! /gen
I supported windows for a while… I’m not sure I went more than an hour or two without going to command line to fix something or another.
Let’s at least not exaggerate, because it’s not particularly useful if you’re trying to get someone to switch. If someone is on the fence about it and sees comments like yours, they’ll be more likely to go “oh well I don’t have those kinds of issues with Windows, so it must just be them.” The vast majority of Windows users (office workers, people using it to check emails and browse Facebook, people just using it for Steam, etc) will literally never need to use CLI.
If you’re needing to use CLI every hour or two on Windows, that sounds more like you’re using the wrong tool for the job. Essentially, you’re trying to use a drill when you need a hammer. A drill may function as a hammer… But it’ll probably take a lot of extra effort. And it’ll likely end up damaging the tool, because you’re using it for something it wasn’t designed to do.
I was a windows sysadmin doing mostly software deployment and automation. I was definitely an edge case. Point is, windows has a command line and requires it for a lot of tasks.
If something is broken in windows, tough luck. I always find if something is broken in Linux, someone has a fix
The owner of the machine is the owner of the secure boot keys.
J4k3, hope youre doing alright dude.
Got a question you may be able to help me with. I have never changed my secure boot key on my motherboard after switching from windows. Do I need to worry about anything? If I don’t, what’s the pros and cons and what not.
I remember reading that there’s some sort of potential issues with keys from windows if you’re a Linux user a few months back.
not j4k3 but my understanding is that the default keys are expiring soon and need to be rotated, and the rotation is up to your Mobo OEM to push out (?). I am not entirely sure that is correct, but I think it is.
Pros and cons of your own key: Pros: its your key, so youre responsible for your security
Cons: its your key, so youre responsible for your security
I did the smart thing and saved my keys in DropBox!
That was my understanding as well,
I got a good chuckle out of the pros and cons list lol, ty for that.
I’ll have to look into self owned boot keys now.
Thanks for chiming in
You can generate your own keys. Here are two PDF links I copied just now from a post I made 2 years ago here. I don’t keep these white listed, so I did not check them for connecting. The first is the official UEFI overview. The second is a great guide from the US government detailing exactly how to set the keys. If that link doesn’t work, pull out the document number from the link and search for it. Gentoo and Arch have guides on this. Fedora has the most advanced pre Linux init system in my opinion.
If you have secure boot enabled, and you are using the shim from fedora or ubuntu, then yes you need to worry about it if you want to dual boot with w11.
I remember reading a post on mastodon where it was explained that no mother board validates the secure boot keys expiration dates otherwise it wouldn’t boot the first time the BIOS battery gets empty and the internal clock gets reset. The post was written well and was citing some sources. But I didn’t try to verify these assertions.
Pros and cons of disabling the default Microsoft key:
(Assuming you have secure boot enabled, and want the security that comes from that)
pros:
- You control your own key and have full choice over what software can start up on your computer, software cannot be approved by anybody else.
- Your secure boot security model is not vulnerable to the risk of booting 3rd party software with known security vulnerabilities.
- Sophisticated attackers with physical access to your computer cannot carry out an evil maid attack on your computer and convince it to trick you or steal your data.
cons:
- You need to have software installed to manage the key. There is software available for Ubuntu and NixOS.
- There are many buggy UEFI implementations out there that require the Microsoft key to load built-in oproms during standard boot, potentially bricking your computer.
- Software that gains root access to your computer could steal your signing key, potentially negating the benefits of secure boot against non-evil maid attacks.
- There are many buggy UEFI implementations out there that require the Microsoft key to load built-in oproms during standard boot, potentially bricking your computer.
From what I’ve found looking into this before, nvidia graphics cards have these oproms so your own secure boot key + nvidia will brick your shit. Can anyone confirm or deny this? Are modern AMD cards any better for this? I’ve been itching to use my own keys for ages and this is the only thing holding me back
AND the ones who control the source code of the software you run.
Can someone enlighten me as to what is M$ doing this time?
I had to install windows the other day on my kids laptop, and had to skip like 10 screens of Microsoft ads and then disable OneDrive, but saw nothing about Dropbox.
Edit: my household has been using Mint for a few years now, the m$ enshitification was just too much for us. I only had to install windows on my kids school laptop because they won’t accept anything else…
In this particular case, it’s not windows since they started pushing one drive.
It’s probably the PC manufacturer being paid by Dropbox to install it with system utilities.
No idea but here’s some tools you should look into
and this one isnt a tool but more of a tip. When installing Win11, set the region to English (world). This will prevent bloat from being installed by default, then use the OOBE\bypassnro command at the M$ account screen to skip signing up for a M$ account.
OOBE\bypassnro no longer works on shipped computers. You have to have a old installer of 11 to use it. There are other ways. Mines a bit more hands on but I end up with a machine with a single local account. Those that tell you install linux and its fixed don’t really live in the real world. As much as I would like to never have to touch windows its not going anywhere soon.
My personal take on that issue is that fighting the vendor is ultimately a losing battle and the later you switch, the more painful it is. If Microsoft wants people to make a Microsoft account for using Windows in non-enterprise environments, it will eventually be impossible not to.
I just used it like 3 weeks ago on a win11 Iso from M$s website. Are you positive that got changed?
also; Ive been daily driving linux for 5 years with mostly no issues. i only touch windows when requested by other people :P
I said shipped computers. Its gone on oem installed dell’s and lenovo’s.
Oh, sorry I missed that. I would use a new Iso anyway because of how much BS bloatware comes on pre-builts.
you can also break out of the installer like in windows 10, and the entire os is loaded in the background so it’s possible to open edge and download another os to a usb drive within the installer. very handy.
Can you please explain how you would do this because the sounds super useful
shift+f10 starts the command prompt and from there you can start edge and explorer
You should be going for linux mint. It’s also good fo playing. I’m playing Silent Hill f on mine.
They said it was their kids laptop so I’m going under the assumption that they need lockdown browser or something for school. I use fedora.
You can also look into ChrisTitusTechTools. That’s how I lock my windows SSD down as much as possible from M$.
anon, it’s time to uninstall windows
Fake: anon existed happily Gay: lets daddy Satya penetrate their machine
Satya? Microsoft doesn’t own Dropbox. You’re thinking of OneDrive.
Sure, but it’s Microsoft that allows 3rd party BS to be automatically re-installed!
Sorry. My mister crabs meme folder is on my other phone.
Here’s a picture of a real crab instead I guess
All I use dropbox for these days is synchronizing various extensions to it as a cloud backup service. Like Violentmonkey (userscripts) and Stylus (userstyles, like for making lemmy look nicer) to mention the two that come to mind.
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Install Linux, fixed.
In the unfortunate event that you CANT uninstall Windows, at least replace it with AtlasOS.
Basically, it reinstalls Windows but rips virtually everything which makes Windows a piece of shit. You’ll get better performance, no telemetry, and next to no bloatware.
Learn Linux anyway.
Wasn’t atlasOS proven to be a scam/not-as-advertised, or have they changed it?
Depends on how you want to chop it up, it’s not a ‘scam’ because its not a paid product.
Not-as-advertised? Depends on how you’re using it.
It strips out a bunch of security features like Defender. If you’re not prone to opening random .exe files, then you’ll probably be fine.
Some users didn’t get the performance boost they were expecting, while others did (I certainly noticed a difference).
Driver support? Some people had issues, though I suspect they didn’t RTFM. The AtlasOS instructions explicitly instruct the user to do all updates, including optional and drivers, prior to AtlasOS overwrites.
I see, thanks for clearing it up
Wow this sounds too good to be true as someone that needs to keep windows for my work apps. What’s the catch and why haven’t I heard of it before?
Just get W11 Enterprise IoT LTSC from massgrave.dev. It’s an official Windows and not some tool to worry about trust.
There’s not ‘catch’ other than having to reinstall windows.
Another ‘catch’ might be that it strips out shit like one drive and the Microsoft Store.
If you needed those, then you’d need to reinstall them with workarounds.
I put down box gently
I solved this issue by deleting windows and installing linux
