• EarWorm@lemmy.world
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    When I drive, I am one with my vehicle! I have the gear stick up my ass and twerk to change gears, like a MAN!

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    Cars aren’t about driving. You want to drive? Go to the track.
    Cars are about getting from point A to point B. Bring on full automation please!

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      I actually quite enjoy driving, especially at night, really helps me relax and get rid of anxiety. I would love to do a track day, but shits expensive.

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        See if there are any autocross groups in your area. Cheaper and safer than a track day with 95% of the thrill.

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          There is an event in April in thinking about signing up for, it’s only about 200 bucks to enter and there are other events in the club later if I like it, also just in time for my birthday!

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            Do it! If nothing else you should go to see how they are run. Bring a helmet if you have one, ride-alongs are super fun.

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        On the one hand, I agree, but on the other hand, it’s one of the most dangerous times to drive

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          I’ve been working nights for a good chunk of my life and I can’t understand why people say this. I prefer to drive at night, maybe if I didn’t live in a big city I might think differently. But, I’ve never had an accident, I rarely sit in traffic, cops generally have bigger shit to deal with at night so I don’t need to worry about speed traps or anything. I can’t think of any downside to night driving

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          Idk, I mean it’s darker, but there are also a lot less cars on the road. I do what I can for accident prevention, I have a dash cam as well, but nothing is 100% risk free and I’m gonna attempt to enjoy what life I have left, and driving is something I wnjoy.

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        I miss my manual transmission sometimes. Though after having an AirBNB in the mountains, I did not miss it. I never want to stop on a hill that steep in a manual.

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        99% of people want just that. a -> b with a level of safety, fuel efficiency, comfort and a cell phone to distract them. Nobody wants to be constantly pumping the clutch in slow traffic on a daily commute. I have an automatic, and it’s perfect for DD. We also have a small, 6-cyl with a standard, and that car is a ton of fun for evenings out and weekends. I wouldn’t want to make myself or the car suffer in a metro area traffic jam moving at a snail’s pace.

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          Short of actual full self driving which doesn’t presently exist why do you think your cell phone is part of your commute?

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            That was just a sarcastic addition based on people not caring about or paying attention to/how divorced they are from driving and the driving experience.

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            Because the ideal commute doesn’t involve driving, it involves me reading Lemmy on my phone while the car drives me to work.

            Or, ideally, just me riding my bicycle, but that’s unrealistic where I live.

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    Try sitting in traffic for 2 hours with a stick, moving 10 feet at a time, and we can talk about how much you love manual

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      When people say they prefer driving a manual, the key word there is driving. Sitting in traffic sucks no matter what kind of vehicle you’re in.

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      People love to say this but it literally doesn’t bother me at all. It’s no worse than driving an auto in traffic.

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      Exactly why I drive an automatic now. Sure, standard transmissions are fun, if you have a fun car, but my little sedan isn’t exactly a fun sports car.

      Driving in traffic was annoying with a stick. Never again.

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        A lot of autos you can use the gear selector to determine what rpm you want it to shift at, or use it to downshift. Most people just throw it in D and wonder what the other selector positions are for.

        Also a lot of small manual cars suck for highway driving cause they cruise at a higher rpm. Cruising along at 120kmph at 2k rpm is pretty great.

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      If that is what it takes for people to demand and use more public transportation, then I am loving it.

      (I live near a city and don’t need to own a car. I only ever drove manual in the past, and also got stuck in a traffic jam occasionally. IMO it wasn’t that difficult to stop and go, but it depends on your car. I had more issues with a rented big transporter, that required to release the clutch while steping on the gas. But that is just practice.

      I remember driving a automatic transmission car once for 10 minutes or so, and it was very stressful, because it behaved so different.)

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    I actually was a real advocate for gears, then I drove my wife’s new car for some time. Modern automatic isn’t only comfortable, it’s actually more (fuel) efficient, especially in the city. Now I’m an automatic guy. And - the circle of life - my daughter, looking for her first car this year: “No, I want gears!” Now she’s got gears. In a car that weighs less than my phone, but hey, what do I old 🥔 potato know.

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      I’m resigned that manual transmissons are a thing of the past, but man, it’s such a huge part of the enjoyment of driving for me.

      Getting that perfect shift, especially if accelerating quicky or going up a steep hill is just so satisfying… Or the “minigame” of balancing the clutch and throttle from a full stop uphill without using the handbrake… And that feeling when you smoothly downshift going down a road and the revs pick up, while you ease up on the brake…

      Yeah I really like driving.

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        Learned automatic then later manual out of necessity and this is just nuts to me. People enjoy that? Driving is already fairly obnoxious just getting around traffic and the extra tedium of having to shift gears at every stop and go was awful. This has to be some kind of Stockholm syndrome or nostalgia or something

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      Yeah they’ve been more fuel efficient for awhile now, but you can take my 6 speed from my cold dead hands 🤣

      I just like it.

      I have an auto truck because I needed a truck and that was what was available for the price I wanted to pay, but my daily driver is a stick and imma drive it till one of us dies lol

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      Should have put her into an old SAAB. I’m talking pre-'92, before GM bought them. They had gears, power, and speed. They also weighed over 2 tons, and are insanely safe. I’ve crashed several on the track, and walk away with scratches every time. It’s a really expensive hobby at times.

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          Yup, this is fact, no arguments here.

          But it doesn’t feel this way though, because new cars kinda… crumple… in a crash.

          I get that it’s how they protect the driver, by deforming and absorbing the energy instead of just thrusting all into the occupants, but really makes them feel flimsy, compared to those olds hunks of steel.

          I’d rather be alive in a crumpled wreck that dead in a barely dented tank though.

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      Modern CVTs will always beat manual transmissions in efficiency now. And probably reliability with reputable brands as well. It’s only a matter of time for consumers to catch up at this point.

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    I drive manual, it’s great for my ADHD haha keeps me from fucking around inside my car in traffic.

    That being said, the person who made this needs to calm down. It’s not that serious.

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      I feel that for sure haha, it’s so much more enjoyable for me and honestly I think it makes people better drivers.

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    I had a car with push button start and a CVT. After putting the first 50 miles on the car, the brake light switch died. Nissan, in their ultimate wisdom, used the brake light switch to tell the computer if you are pressing the brake when starting the car. Well, no brake light switch, no starting the engine. Had to get it towed back to the dealership to get fixed.

    I now have a real key and a manual transmission.

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              Why all the CVT hate? I drove a Jeep Patriot that had a CVT for about 100,000 miles before any major things broke, and what broke on me was the engine, not the transmission. That thing has great gas milage, as long as you used the CVT properly. Also need to swap out the air filter, oil filter, spark plugs, and plug wires, cause the ones that Chrysler puts on are crap, but if you do that, and keep your tach as close to 1000-1500 rpm as possible, I was getting 35/50 mpg.

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                There’s always that one guy with a jatco CVT that hasn’t failed yet. Those are called “ouliers” and are not representative.

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                  I had a Sentra once upon a time with a Jatco CVT that worked fine. Bunch of other shit wrong with that car though. So that’s two guys now

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                The thing is, good modern automatics should last more than 100,000 miles. Motors should definitely last more than 100,000 miles, but from what I see online a lot that seems to be about the use-by date for Stelantis motors. Nissan (Jatco) CVTs were notorious for failing at or a little before 100k, and Nissan was one of the first (maybe the first) to mass adopt the CVT into their vehicles. It’s sad because Nissan had reached near engineering perfection on their VQ/VK motors and their traditional automatics prior to Renault getting involved in their business. Our 2011 Armada, the gas guzzling bitch that she is, runs like its new with 200k miles on the motor and tranny (both engineered in the late 90s).

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          I’m like 2 weeks late here, but yes. Nothing scarier than hitting the gas and feeling the belt slip inside of the transmission

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      I used to have a 92 Honda accord. The car was built on par with Toyota as far as reliability. With that said though, there was one time it wouldn’t start. Push started it, it worked, but when starting- the problem persisted. Went to a shop to diagnose it. Turns out manual cars normally use a clutch switch to tell if you have the clutch pressed to start the car. There is a little rubber standoff on it to dampen the clutch pedal coming back up and hitting it, making it last longer. The little rubber bit fell out and got lodged making the switch not disengage. It was a 10 cent part that cost me an hour of diagnostic time (the minimum). So yes, manual cars still have an equivalent problem to what you had.

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        *Modern Nissan.

        I genuinely believe the K24 is the second best engine ever made, even better than the 22RE.

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    "EMBRACE THE COMPLEXITY OF MANUAL TRANSMISSION

    • CARS are not just about driving, they’re about mastering the ART of machinery!
    • Want to feel alive on a steep hill? Forget simplicity, EMBRACE the handbrake juggle and the dance of the clutch pedal!
    • “I could simply shift to D, but where’s the thrill in that?” - A call to arms by the Connoisseurs of Complexity.
    • DEFEND your right to a gearbox that requires three limbs and a keen sense of timing to operate!

    CELEBRATE MANUAL TRANSMISSIONS (These are the cryptic contraptions deciphered only by the Worthy)

    ZIGZAG MAZE? - Challenge accepted! VOLUME KNOB? - Twist and shout your way through the gears! ??? - Only the true driver knows!

    “Please engage the starter motor.” - “Certainly, after I adjust the choke and check the distributor!” “I fear no hill start, for I have the power of the clutch and the arcane knowledge of the gearbox!”

    Join the ranks of those who drive not for convenience, but for the pure, unadulterated challenge."

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    Does anybody have the version of this about roads, intersections and such? I’ve been trying to find it but don’t really know what to search

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    Manual transmission is also a great anti-theft device, since most kids don’t know how to drive it.

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      Funny, when I was in the military all the Gen X’ers couldn’t drive stick when we got rentals in Europe. I could because I rode a motorcycle, so I just always drove.

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      Real men also don’t fuck around with soft rubber or asphalt. We use steel wheels on steel rails set atop a bed of rugged timber and jagged rocks!

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    Here’s a thought, get a car made in the same decade. Your experience on budget automatic from 2001 doesn’t represent modern cars.

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    Don’t worry, AI transmission works most of the time (but every now and then it may hallucinate on the highway…)

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      Why is AI allowed to do that and when I’m driving on shrooms I’ll loose my license. Seems unfair to me. Hallucinogens for everyone!

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    I switched from manual to auto after I moved to Reading and found myself constantly dancing the clutch fandango in all the stop start traffic.

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      When driving an auto I have to be real careful not to try and hit the ‘clutch’. Brake checked myself more than once doing that.