14 do you know how innocent nearly all 14 year olds are. It will wake them up to the horrors of the world in a shock fashion as they get older. Insane. Billionaires are sick. We have no need for them.
I’m glad people are finally paying attention, I guess, but none of what has come out has been new. We already knew all of this, it was all reported on, and nobody gave a shit.
Finally we know that the president of the us is a rapist. We sure as hell are not gonna elect him again.
People in 2017
The dollop podcast did a pretty comprehensive 2 part episode on him. He’s a piece of shit. He’s always been a piece of shit. But like Southpark say, ‘half the country is fucking retarded’
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Seems like the media is starting to portray him in a negative light consistently, and that’s causing some supporters to go woke. As you said, none of this information is new. The only difference is the medias portrayal of him. Seems like the owners of the us aren’t liking the direction we’re going.
It’s even worse then giving a shit or not, a huge portion of the people who voted for him identify with the desire to go after a 14 year old girl - they’re just limited by circumstance and social pressure. If they had a guaranteed way to come out clean and the funds, they’d be on that island too.
They seem to give a shit now, so… Progress?
I’m disappointed in the reaction-based interest. They finally have a personal reason to dislike the guy, and now, in retaliation, they actually notice all of the sketchy/terrible shit that he’s been involved in, or party to…
Despite my disappointment, I’m just glad things are being seen finally. It’s probably way too little, and way too late, since he’s currently a sitting president in his second, and hopefully last term, but it’s something.
I’m guessing Trump’s supporters aren’t as rabid in supporting him because there’s no more elections to win.
Then explain this
It’s just another money making endeavor. But they’re open to it, sure.
It’s like the rest of it. It starts out as a pwn the libs until it’s not.
Yeah, remember /r/the_donald?
Some of us never found that shit funny because we’re aware of the goals of the GOP. But we were spoilsports for calling it out.
Trigger Warning! #Trump #Epstein
To be clear this YouTube link is the testimony of a victim - Not Ghislaine.
It is really hard to watch
She graphically describes what happened:
Most girls were 13-14
Trump kept requesting her. He demanded she wear a blonde wig; he said she looked like his daughter who was also 13 at the time
Trump forcibly took her virginity
Jesus fucking Christ. For all I’ve kept up with this, and I really do try to pay attention to it all, that’s the first testimony I’ve actually watched. And I hated all twenty minutes of it.
That is absolutely chilling.
There’s a good chance the man who ran teenage beauty pageants provided bodies for the rape Island.
Whoa. I never connected those dots before.
That’s dark, dude.
Trump is on record bragging about how he could go backstage anytime and possibly catch them naked. At his teen beauty pageants.
he had minors working as a “massage therapist”
. I never connected those dots before.
HOW?!? I feel like I’ve lost my goddamn mind. It should be like the first fucking thing you realize when you learn about both things. They’re so obviously connected.
Cause it’s something you shouldn’t have to think about?
Honestly, I think that’s fair.
You shouldn’t have to, but you do have to. The world isn’t going to fix itself - these things are happening because our country and its people have been slowly influenced over the course of decades specifically not to put up a fuss about it. We need to fight against that conditioning that tells us we deserve to be able to step away and ignore it. We do deserve that, but to allow ourselves that out is to continue allowing these atrocities to happen. We’ve been pushed into such stressful, overstimulating lives that putting up a fight seems impossible, but we need to fight it even if it means putting our lives on the line.
You shouldn’t have to, but you do have to.
I totally agree. Some people may be slightly slower. We have to educate those people, unfortunately.
our country
I’m not sure where you’re from, but this covers several countries.
Orherwise, I totally agree. People have been worn down through a reduction of workers rights, pay, numerous other rights….its wrong.
Problem is in the western world you’ve had a press, and now social media, pushing a right wing, and rights narrative. To people like us it’s infuriating.
he also was whining how epstein was “stealing” his " massage parlor" underaged employees from him.
I’d be surprised if this weren’t the case. I mean, in their perspective it must be a brilliant plan so why wouldn’t he do it?
Or the other way around, as this article suggests
Title gore? Ghislaine survivor?
Ah okay, I’ve not been following this part and didn’t know who Ghislaine was — I thought she was one of the victims so I thought she was supposed to be the survivor. She’s one of the accused. Gotcha. My mistake.
It’s saying she survived both of them.
I realize now that Ghislaine is one of the accused. 🫠 I thought she was one of the survivors…
Did they kill the other victims? Or is Gishlaine dead already? I am confused.
the word survivor is generally preferred to the word victim for people who have gone through sexual abuse.
How are people this fucking clueless about the myriad sex crimes that our president committed prior to 2016?
None of this is new. All of this was reported on prior to the 2016 election.
Unreal.
It was not all reported prior to 2016 since it was the Miami Heralds reporting in 2018 that brought a lot of things into public eye. It was however all reported prior to the 2024 election.
not everyone here is american though. We don’t pay attention to every little court room screening in America; and are sometimes finding out via chat rooms like this one
Fair enough… However, there are tons of Americans that are just as clueless
sadly yeah, willfully ignorant people exist everywhere on this floating rock
Bingo. You nailed it.
You didn’t guess it, but the other person did: I’m not American 😉👍 Watching the shit show from afar and don’t have as much detail in media like you do, and we got all of our own shit to worry about on top of your shit, so. It’s a lot. 🤪
Take care though.
In news media, titles like “Jeffrey Epstein, Ghislaine Maxwell survivor” are meant to be read “Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell survivor”. Commas often mean “and” I think to save print space. Pulling that part out of my ass somewhat, but that is still how youre supposed to read it.
Indeed, and I personally hate it. “&” Is right there if they want to save space.
I really dislike when the reason to continue doing something is tradition, and that’s what is going on here. It would be so easy to just start using “&” instead of commas, which outside this context are not used this way.
Get with the times, silly journalists.
(Just an extra gripe, that journalists are often really shitty at citing. “A report from XYZ organisation says” yes, which one? Y U DO DIS TO ME?)
Oh, I was like 30 when I found out and was absolutely pissed. I blame style guides and more specifically those who don’t dare change them.
I know, I already explained what made me confused in my edit hours ago. 😉👍
Read commas in headlines as the word “and”
This headline is proof this newspaper convention is stupid. If they’re so keen on holding on to this weird tradition of “saving space” in headlines for a medium in decline (print), just use an “&” symbol. It’s much more recognisable, comma has a clearly defined function and they’re misusing it.
Their tradition be damned.
Just my 2¢
Yeah I know that much, I was just confused over who was the victim and who was on trial lol. Thanks though!
For years I thought The Onion doing that was part of the joke.
I hate how North Americans write headlines.
Hurricane, house fire, tornado, rabid dog survivor testifies…
Oh god, not these guys again
Oh Trump is fucked now…
oh sweet child, if only you were right…if only.
Man committed treason. What’s little raping an underage girl going to do to him?
Ah, but that treason wasn’t blatantly obvious.
I mean, it’s not as if he ordered people to surreptitiously take boxes marked top secret. Then order people to delete videos from the server room to cover shit up. And then, when the deleting thing wouldn’t work, also order people to flood the server room with swimming pool water where the videos were kept. Then, after all that, just keep the top secret documents in an unlocked room next to a fucking fax machine.If he did all that in such an imbecilic bungling three stooges-esque type manner then he’d be arrested by now, surely. And there’s absolutely no way that the American people would vote him in again…
Edit: He’s on the Epstein list because he’s a kiddie fiddling child rapist AND he’s also a convicted rapist of E Jean Carroll.
Plus there are over twenty known court cases/accusations of him sexually assaulting and raping other women.
(I like to mention this whenever I can.)
I’ve heard that one before.
You say that… Don’t get my hopes up.
The right-wing propaganda machine will tell the cultists that it’s no big deal and they’ll adjust their thinking like good little sheep. Donald Trump has never seen an ounce of consequence and until I’m proven otherwise, I won’t believe that he ever will.
hopefully, but the political and legal establishments are there to let trump do whatever the fuck he wants.
Trouble is there is an entire movement behind him that will say something like “you lost, get over it”…”you cant reason with the unreasonable”.
Less apathy more demand
“met”?
Let’s make this the most upvoted post on Lemmy ever.
Oh we are not trying to make her out as a victim now.
The headline is confusing, but it is not referring to Ghislaine as a survivor
Ohhh okay. yeah I had to reread that a few times before I understood what it was trying to convey. Thank you.
It’s intentional, sketchier yet, it’s from what looks like a “news” outlet in Palm Beach Florida.
