Can you imagine her outrage of anyone said that about any group she is part of? Women. American. Divorced. Military. You name it. “Kill all of them”, “How can you say that, that’s inhumane and you should be locked up in a mental hospital”, but when it’s Palestinians it’s fine I guess.
Imagine thinking a whole group of people- millions of people- deserve to die. I can’t even comprehend the thought process there.
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It starts with judging an entire group of people. Like you just did there.
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This is a bad take, you don’t have to have previously killed anyone to become a murderer.
The Nazis managed to industrialize mass murder in the 20th century which directly reduced the amount of exposure to the common citizen. I don’t even want to imagine what a similar mindset would be capable of today.
All it takes is a minority of psychopaths and a large population of apathetic citizens.
I’ll have you know I’ve killed tons of chickens… in mine craft.
Wtf I’m not killing a chicken. You kill the chickens. That can be your post apocalypse job. Me, I’ll stick with mud peasant, thank you.
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The last bit you quoted about Biden is referring to statements he made about Biden asking Netanyahu about the possibility of a ceasefire and that Bibi told Biden there is none.
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Biden is ride-or-die for Israel, basically.
Since when is Biden the President of Israel?
Israel is the 51st state, Biden could end this war tomorrow if he wanted.
What fantasy land are you living in? Shapirostan?
What do you think would happen to Israel if Biden came out and said “we will no longer defend Israel, everybody go nuts”?
Lebanon and Iran and Qatar and Yemen and Iraq and Afghanistan and Turkey and Egypt and maybe even Russia would obliterate them. Israel is only able to exist because the US gives it unconditional support. Hence, the 51st state - an attack on Israel is an attack on the US.
Lebanon and Iran and Qatar and Yemen and Iraq and Afghanistan and Turkey and Egypt and maybe even Russia would obliterate them.
I have serious doubts as to the ability of some of these countries to be able to match up to Israel militarily, even aside from having other things to worry about at the moment - Russia in particular does not have the privilege of fighting two wars right now.
There’s also the fact that Israel is a nuclear power - they almost used their nukes in the Yom Kippur war, which is what prompted the US to actually start resupplying them. If an Arab coalition were to attack Israel now (especially with Netanyahu in power), there is zero chance that they wouldn’t actually do it this time, and everyone knows this. No one in their right mind would try and pressure Israel to that extent, and most foreign powers would be highly motivated to do whatever it took to make sure that didn’t happen.
Finally, if the US were to leave Israel alone, China would probably step right in to fill that void, and would be well-suited for it too, given that they have relatively good relations with most of the Arab nations (IIRC). So not only would the US lose a massive channel of influence in the region, they’d be allowing their largest geopolitical rival to consolidate their influence in the region as well - wouldn’t Biden be absolutely raked over the coals for that?
wouldn’t Biden be absolutely raked over the coals for that?
Ignoring all your speculation about Israel’s strength (I’m highly skeptical they could actually survive modern warfare - they have drone pilots, not infantry lol) he absolutely would. There’s a huge portion of the electorate that absolutely loves Israel and supports their genocide.
That’s not really a good reason to continue supporting them.
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Yup, but because daddy has aircraft carriers in the gulf it’s fine. The 51st state is safe.
Why are states wasting time with resolutions for international issues. Stay in your lane.
Why are you diverting attention from the real issue: a fuckin’ psychopath calling for mass murder.
Cause more than enough people covered that topic in the comments already.
Because it’s all theater. Most of these loonies are extras they just don’t know it. It’s one giant distraction. A fuckin flea circus. Just make sure you’re paying attention so you don’t notice your wallet getting lighter or your rights getting smaller.
This comment fills me with outrage.
She said the only part out loud.
This is why I’m not all that concerned in the recent polls that Biden is losing support among Progressives, who tend to be sympathetic to the Palestinians. What are they going to do, vote for Trump and his friends, who are even worse? If Trump does win, do they really think they would be listened to?
I doubt a single person in Florida who thinks that Biden and the party he leads is not taking their side on this issue would vote for this person instead.
What are they going to do, vote for Trump and his friends, who are even worse?
What they might do is sit out the election or make a third party protest vote. I am no lover of Biden, but if he’s the only viable choice other than Trump, we need him in the office and I’m worried not enough people will realize that.
It’s the same issue Hillary had. Lots of liberals were so fucking tired of the system. They wanted something new. And Hillary was a direct personification of the system; A career politician who had paid her party dues for decades, and felt like the seat had been promised to her. There were a lot of liberals who casted protest votes.
I’ll admit I did that. I voted for Bernie in the Primary and then didn’t vote in the General. Although I lived in Oklahoma where Trump beat Clinton by 529k votes and hasn’t been blue in the last 50 years…
I’d like to think I would have voted for Clinton if my vote counted for anything. If we got rid of the electoral college then I feel like the voting percentage would go up across the country as Republicans in California and Democrats in Alabama would suddenly have a reason to actually vote. I live in Alabama now and it is a STUGGLE to get any of my friends to take the time to go vote.
Yea I’m sorry I was one of them and therefore helped trump get in. I wanted Bernie, still want Bernie, voted Bernie in protest in ‘16 but did my part voting Biden in ‘20. But until trump is dead and republicans are unable to field someone as rallying to their base, I’m forced to vote democrat to prevent fascism overtaking my nation.
I hope the ones who did have learned their lesson. When the greater of two evils gets in power, greater evil is done.
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Could just stay home. Maybe a bunch of us are tired of voting for people whose only qualifications is they aren’t the other person.
But that’s entirely my point. These people who are complaining that Biden isn’t taking their side are at risk having an administration who considers them all to be terrorists to take over if they sit this one out. I suppose they can take solace in the fact that they stuck to their principles, even if the Trump Administration sends them all to re-education camps.
Sometimes the perfect is the enemy of the good.
Sometimes the perfect is the enemy of the good.
There aren’t good options. There’s genocide lite and genocide delux.
I will not vote for genocide, and if you vote for genocide you are complicit.
Not acting is still a choice.
It’s a choice to not vote for genocide. You can tell yourself pretty lies, but if you vote for Biden you are a genocide supporter.
but if you vote for Biden you are a genocide supporter.
Every time I hear this I have to do some math, play a word puzzle, or some other mental exercise to make sure I don’t catch The Stupid. If casting a vote for Biden equals support for genocide, then anything anyone in a civilized society does could be said to be the same. Vote for anyone? The joke’s on you, genocide supporter, you helped a different genocide supporter get elected. Do you go to work? You failed again; You’re making someone else money so they can vote for a genocide supporter. Do you pay Taxes, you genocide
supporterfunder?Protest votes are for the primary; go ahead and vote for Gandhi McJesus then. The general is the team play. And if you don’t vote for the lesser of two evils you’re helping the larger evil get elected, you genocide supporter, it just lets you smugly deflect blame.
Vote for anyone? The joke’s on you, genocide supporter, you helped a different genocide supporter get elected
You can vote for people who don’t support genocide! They exist.
Do you go to work? You failed again; You’re making someone else money so they can vote for a genocide supporter. Do you pay Taxes, you genocide supporterfunder?
We are all complicit in our own ways and we have a moral duty to rebel against our genocidal government. Good job, you just made an argument for revolution lol
And if you don’t vote for the lesser of two evils you’re helping the larger evil get elected, you genocide supporter, it just lets you smugly deflect blame.
Democrats would oppose genocide if Trump was president, which actually results in harm reduction. How do you square that circle?
Purposefully withholding your vote in the general election is a selfish/narcissistic act. No matter what wordplay you engage, not giving support to the lesser of two evils leads to better outcomes for the greater of them – and pain and suffering for the most vulnerable. But you get the comfort of hugging your pristine principles**
**and La Revolución is NOT happening in time to help in any meaningful way before uncountable death and suffering – stop that BS and grow up
Voting for genocide makes you a genocide supporter. Deal with it.
No ceasefire, no votes.
Outrage is a dime a dozen. It’s so common these days. See? I just got outraged at the outrage. It’s easy.
Outrageous
She seems like an idiot, but the reality is anyone with this opinion out of Israel right now kind of has the right to feel that way. Genocide never fixes problems and always creates more problems later
Not too far of a departure from Biden’s statements about no upper limit of dead civilians or children and “None. No possiblity.” about a ceasefire.
The real crime for the Republican: aligning with Biden in rhetoric.
Lemmings are rightly furious about these comments, but I don’t recall you all being upset about Tlaib’s tone-deaf implication that Israel should be wiped from the map.
I’m not pretending Tlaib’s comments are as bad as these, because they’re not, but I am absolutely for censuring Tlaib over them. They were totally out of line, no matter what she meant.
She called for Palestine to be free from the river to the sea. That doesn’t actually require wiping Israel off the map.
Palestine and Israel could just become a single multi-ethnic democracy so everyone gets equal rights and equal protections.
It’s like saying “Black Lives Matter” is racist because the implication is that only black lives matter, when it is actually meant to say black lives also matter. Bad faith interpretation.
“From the river to the sea” is a phrase used by Hamas and other anti-Israel groups in the region to talk about wiping Israel out. I don’t think Tlaib was actually calling for the destruction of Israel, but her choice of phrase was absolutely moronic, and I don’t believe she ever apologized for it. That’s what I meant about her comments not being as bad as these, but still bad.
“From the river to the sea” is also a phrase used by the entire Palestinian resistance. Everyone, from peaceful protesters to violent militants, are saying the same thing- they are demanding freedom. The fact that some of them are more extreme than others is no reason to throw the baby out with the bath water. Even the ones that are anti-Israel aren’t calling for genocide - they want Israel abolished and all Jewish Israelis to become Palestinian.
From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free. Deal. With. It.
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Source on Tlab’s comments?
Those comments are fine. The only ones pissed off about them are insincere fear mongers and genocidal apologists.
Exactly. Tlaib literally says its meaning is of peaceful coexistence. There is absolutely no comparison with the woman above saying all Palestinians should be dead.
You think using the exact language Hamas uses when they call for Israel’s obliteration is fine? There’s definitely something wrong with you.
You sir\madam are not a nice person.
If I’m “not nice,” you’re far worse.
Everyone is entitled to be stupid. But you abuse that privilege.
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