It’s literally in their Bible… This should just be standard. Not special.
Yep. Also Catholic official “recommended ideology of state” was distributivism last time I checked, which is something of a holy mix (can’t be unholy mix in this situation) between anarcho-capitalism and anarcho-syndicalism with a conservative touch.
It has its downsides, but the upsides are that limiting immigration, legal inequality, racism and fascism are in theory not allowed there.
(Just in case someone thinks Peter Thiel and such people’s ideas are what Catholic church recommends, and they surely want to make such an impression, - no.)
Bible is like the Constitution. Some people don’t read it.
Because they’d be atheists if they actually did. The ones who read it and stay Christians are just sociopaths.
Catholics are discouraged from interacting directly with the Bible. Priests are supposed to be the mediators between the faithful and the doctrine.
This is completely false. There is a reading guide that Catholics are encouraged to follow every day. I think it traverses the entire Bible every 3 years in this manner, with everyone reading the same passages at the same time to encourage discussion.
You might be thinking old school, back when mass was in Latin.
It’s literally in their Bible…
So it literal genocide. Committed by the supposed “good guys”.
There’s a lot in the Bible, but laws for protecting immigrants are not contradicted with the genocide of ancient civilizations. The establishment of Israel as a nation was just as promised as it’s destruction.
Something something Jesus new covenant.
New covenant, who dis?
Lol, I should bookmark the “I came to fulfill the law” verse, I whip it out so much… They’re so predictable.
Don’t make me like you, kiddy diddler.
Sometimes working with people you dislike to do a good thing isn’t a bad idea. No True Scotsman fallacy is why America is where it is now.
Jesus’ family were supposedly immigrants and asylum seekers. Priests should step up. So should real christians.
Another argument for renaming the “No True Scotsman” fallacy to “No True Christian” to make it more self-explanatory.
“REAL CHRISTIANS”.
They’re all real christians, just some ignore the hate speech, and pretend it’s not part of the religion while most don’t ignore it at all. Fuck your hate religion, and the hate that it spawns.
The fascist people in charge of the deporting, the fascist militia, and the rest of the christians on the sidelines funding and supporting them - they’re ALL REAL CHRISTIANS.
Stop following their hate religion. Nobody on the outside thinks you’re part of anything but a hate religion, even if you have good intentions. You’re surrounded by people with bad intentions, and nobody can tell you apart.
I’m an atheist. That doesn’t mean I can’t tell the difference between those who are claim to be christians and those who actually try. It’s probably 100:1 in favor of fake christians, if not more.
Way, way more.
What about pedophiles? How does he think they should be handled?
Likely with kid gloves
I dont know about the pope but i am a fan of:
If they have not wronged children: therapy
If they did: prison & therapyYou can’t cure it with therapy, and the Catholic church protects and habors pedophiles. I don’t give a damn what he says. The church is a cancer and needs to be destroyed. If you support the church you support pedophiles.
“If you work or buy anything, you support capitalism, therefore you support the destruction of the planet.”
another day, another maximalist Lemmy take.
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It’s a sexuality.
No.
Is that where you stopped reading? I specifically refused to defend it using the “it’s a sexuality so you can’t judge people for it” thing that pedos try to use. That whole MAP thing was just an attempt to lump pedophiles in with the LGBTQ+ crowd, to the detriment of both groups.
Ok. That clarifies it a bit better. It seemed like you were treating it like a valid premise.
Regardless of whether I agree with you or not, I disapprove of the mods removing your post.
This is where we find out which faith is stronger, organized religion or the MAGA cult.
How many Americans are catholics though? (And how many of those are hispanics anyways?)
It’s easy to ignore the pope, when he’s not even part of your denomination.
Please refer to this terribly colored pie chart for your answer.
The MAGA nuts are Christian nationalist protestants. They think the Pope is the antichrist (literally many of them do).
Mormons too, they’ve been screeching about Armageddon and the antichrist since we elected that black fellow
Which is complete bullshit, a long standing tenant of the Mormon faith was to “follow the laws of the land” but once we started actually making some social progress they started forgetting that more and more and more.
The whispered part of that is that members should run for office; that way they have the power to make laws conform to their ideology. I was surprised by the number of Mormons in Congress. They’re pretty over-represented for the population they represent.
Well, that tenet only came about after all the fraud in NY, being kicked out of multiple Midwest towns for being so obnoxious no one could stand them, landing in UT with the BY in BYU immediately building a house for himself and another for all his wives next door, and Uncle Sam threatening to take away their tax exemption if they don’t allow black people in…THEN eventually god changed his mind
It’s always been “follow the law of the land, unless god tells you different then go ahead but don’t tip off the feds”
There have been a few shows/movies recently that have kind of explored this time and place in US history, and it’s some really interesting shit. Mormon militias and what not.
Yet many Catholics voted in line with the MAGA nuts, purely on abortion. The American Catholic Church has turned abortion into its defining political litmus test. Hopefully this new Pope can convince American bishops that there are other issues worth their attention.
Besides, the folks who run the US right now always need an enemy. Once they run through the immigrants, and LGBT people, who’s next? It’s entirely possible these christofascists start ostracizing Catholics. They never liked them anyway, they just liked their votes, and they probably think they won’t need votes anymore to keep in power.
My fucking parents voted for this asshole because of abortion. I yell at them about how many these fascists have already killed. Stopping aids aid from USAID alone is going to kill thousands (millions?).
Western Christians haven’t cared about their religion for at least a century, probably more. Bets on MAGA.
If you’re following Maga you’ve long since started zany rationalization of your Christianity. Trump is an absolute caricature of the anti-christ incarnate. It’s absolutely laughable. This will not break the hippocrates.
The Pope isn’t the American Christian icon you’d think. JFK was Catholic and it was a big deal.
American Christianity is dozens and dozens of sects and styles and flavors. Overall they roughly disrespect and respect the Pope about the same, he’s irrelevant really.
Modern American fascism has been claiming catholicism, see Vance. This is big for that reason. That and catholicism being the largest individual branch of Christianity in America
On the other hand, Biden is a Catholic too and that wasn’t an election issue. And Trump probably couldn’t tell you which denomination he pretends to be part of.
Well some of them pray to the old donny boy
They’re only doing this for one day, and only for 3 hours. MAGA signed up for 8 years of their shit.
It’d be better if Pope Leo deputized and trained additional Vatican Guards and deployed them at various locations. Also a priest.
Swiss Guards are active duty Swiss military iirc. Deployng them could be… Problematic on many levels.
They appear to just have to have undergone Swiss basic training (and be catholic Swiss men of a certain age and height)
Ha, thanks for the correction.
Police in riot gear with pepper guns and gas grenades vs Swiss Guards in blue, red and yellow with halberds. 🤘
Arm them with lacrosse sticks instead?
I’ve done this in CIV and it didn’t work out that well…
Because Gandhi showed up and nuked everyone?
😂 🤣
‘People of Faith Stand with Immigrants’
Yeah, I don’t think “people of faith”, at least the more conservative ones, are going to be taking that lesson very seriously… Good luck changing their mindset.
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Evangelicals are not, but there are progressives within the ranks of christianity. The actual message of the new testament is down right socialist.
Jesus died a pacifistic anarchist at the very least
Pacifist yes — definitely not an anarchist. He instructed his followers to obey all laws in all situations that didn’t conflict with loving God and loving other people. However, he despised “tradition” and flaunted it constantly.
Anarchists aren’t against following laws, they’re against unjust hierarchies
Pacifist
Did I misread the part when he kicks the shit out of the money changers?
Yup. He overturned their tables and yelled at them to get out of the temple.
Of course, that would be classified as terrorism today….
In the John version of the story, he “drives” them out of the temple with a whip. It’s difficult to reconcile that with a total pacifism.
Pacifism isn’t the same as being a doormat. It doesn’t say he attacked anyone, just chased them out with a whip.
He is also reported to call his disciples to strap on their swords at one point though, and at least Peter took him literally. So he obviously wasn’t a “pacifism at all costs” kind of person.
What do you think the word “communist” meant before Marx?
The Vatican style of faith is very different from whatever has been festering in conservative America.
the only higher power conservatives believe in, even the religious ones, is fox news
close but not quite, trump is the higher power. when fox didnt 100% back january 6th and trumps mission to steal the election, many of them called to boycott fox news. If they have to choose between fox and trump they will choose trump. In reality this probably wont happen again cuz fox learned their lesson.
I have no problem with the catholic church standing on the right side of history. those kinds of American Christians already think they’re superior to the pope, so what is the difference?
Good on the USB, got the religion right. You know who doesn’t? People who hate their neighbours, casted stones in the capitol and know compassion only for their own.
These people pretend to be religious, because it happens to be popular with conservatives, not because they understand religion
For all it’s sins the Catholic Church always took christian universalism to be incompatible with exclusionary nationalism.
The catholic church: “We’re better than everyone else, even the presence of a priest on your behalf will get you special treatment.”
No. No, it won’t. No, it shouldn’t. Ever.
Fuck religion and fuck those that support it.
Yea, let’s even bash them when they work for something good… good idea!
If youre in a position of power, why not use it for good? Yeah, they shouldnt have it in the first place but in a crisis those sorts of discussions are less important than protecting the vulnerable.
Empty words from a horrible cult. When you have prosecuted and fired all the clergy that have sexually abused people, we might take you seriously. Hypocrites!
Praise when praise is due. Scorn when scorn is due. Hold on to your anger and give them double hell when they next fuck up, but weakening them while they’re in the swing of doing the right thing hurts us all.
