I know you’re convinced that a little cinnamon improves your chili.

You are incorrect on this conviction.

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    These rules come from the same people who put a slice of cheese on apple pie. “It adds a savory quality to all the sweetness.” Fuck off, it adds the taste of cheese to apple pie. People also like mint and chocolate, maybe you should eat some M&Ms coated in Vicks vaporub

    Chili is steaming dog food with too many spices and onions for dogs to eat. If you think your chili tastes better with beans or even cinnamon, then get down with your bad self. Anyone who tells you otherwise is welcome to not eat your chili.

    “Syrup doesn’t belong on waffles/french toast”
    “Cookies shouldn’t have raisins”
    “You shouldn’t put butter on your tortillas”
    Fuck all y’all, I’mma eat my food how it tastes good and you can maybe chime in once you got a show on the food network

    ^I’m a Texan who will eat your chili with or without beans and I approve this message^

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      As a fellow member of the [If It’s Delicious Who Cares If It’s aUtHenTic] Club, I don’t usually feed my dogs a hand selected blend of peppers and spices, but you’re invited to the cookout anyways.

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        I don’t care how they’re picked, you generally shouldn’t feed peppers and spices that you’d use in chili. And never onions, garlic, or grapes regardless of the intended application.

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      29 days ago

      Whoa now. Whoever said Syrup doesn’t belong on waffles should be kept away from sharp objects.

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      30 days ago

      Raisins in cookies is evil, the number of times I was fooled when I was younger…

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    Chili is a tomato based curry and pretty much anything is acceptable if balanced properly.

    • cinnamon
    • chocolate
    • coffee
    • oregano
    • cilantro
    • cheddar
    • beer
    • bourbon
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      According to google (and since the name implies it as well I’m inclined to believe it) it’s actually a chili pepper based stew. With or without meat. Tomatoes and beans are common ingredients, but not part of the base.

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        Sure, but what does that even mean? Because you start with your onion and garlic and build it from there. So in that sense the onion and garlic are the base.

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          You’re confusing the ingredient list with the cooking order. Chili is a chili based recipe because that’s the main ingredient, the ingredient that needs to be there, on top of which you can add other stuff.

          Those are just used as aromatics, they’re not a main ingredient . You can replace them with other stuff or just omit them altogether and you’d still get a Chili. But if you replace the chili, then you just get a stew, can’t really call it chili anymore.

          Take beef bourguignon, for example. It’s a stew as well but its main ingredients, or base, if you will, are the beef and the red wine. Can’t replace those and still call it that

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      I know the Japanese will dead ass put apple and raisins in some variations of their curry. Apple is pretty good, adds a sweetness that isn’t overbearing. Raisins, though I will never understand.

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        Never tried raisins, but I imagine it could be pretty tasty if well done.

        There are a lot of dishes where you put dried fruit in otherwise savoury meals (I think especially middle eastern or like slavic Plov)

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          Yeah, I’m sure its mostly fine, is just personal preference for me. I don’t like raisins at all. But I bet dried mango or something would be good

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          Yeah, for sure. Like I said, I like apples in it pretty well, and I’m sure raisins at mostly fine. I just don’t like raisins in any context lol.

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    I, as a chili bean lover who made their chili based on beans, understand this completely.

    Chili should (if not vegan chili) be based around the meat. The meat and flavors should be #1 and the accoutrements should be secondary.

    If vegan chili (which my mum makes and it’s SO DELICIOUS), this rule can be ignored.

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      Counterpoint: I’ll put whatever I want in my spicy slop and the internet can be mad all it wants, beans are going in there.

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        That is hella based

        But I’ve tried with a lot of different things and it always comes out best if I do the meat as a base (if I’m not making vegan chili)

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      Chili just needs to be hearty and filling. Meat and beans are great for this purpose. Having an appropriate ratio is important and the types of beans is also important (doubly so in vegetarian chili). Meat should be on top but shouldn’t overpower everything else.

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        Full agree. If it’s meat chili, the easiest way to do that is to use the meat base.

        But you’re 100% correct, you can absolutely do it different ways, especially if you’re making non-meat chili.

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    Chili is short for chili con carne, not chili con carne y frijoles. I understand competitions demanding a certain “purity.” That said, I will put beans in my chili because that’s what I like.

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      It’s also not short for chili con carne y tomates, so by that logic it’d be weird to put tomatoes in there too lol

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        Again, I don’t necessarily disagree about it from a competition/traditionalist perspective, but I’m going to put it in mine because I like it. That said, I do find that most recipes are akin to a tomato, meat, and beans stew and are sorely lacking in the chilis that the dish is named after.

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      I say it’s short for Chile con Carne because beans are the baseline chili - I’d eat chili with beans and no meat, Chile sin Carne, that’s a meal by itself.

      But chili with meat and no beans, like Chile Colorado, needs to be served with beans and rice, it’s not good by itself. I do make that sometimes but people just call it “meat” when I do. Nobody here thinks of it as chili.

      I don’t think any food is pure. Traditions are forever changing.

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        If you’re chili con carne is “just meat,” you’ve seriously skimped on the star of the show, the chilis. Which most people seem to do… I’ve seen way too many chili recipes that are basically just a tomato, meat, and bean stew with a dash of chili powder.

        I don’t think any food is pure. Traditions are forever changing.

        I 100% agree. Hence I said I understand the purists and the chili competitions that don’t allow beans, but I’m going to make mine with beans. Also, much of the best foods are fusions. The chilis, the spicy fruits not the dish, are the perfect example. I can’t imagine a world in which Indian, Thai, or just about any Asian dish doesn’t have a spicy kick to it. Yet every single species of chili originated in South America. Same story with the tomato. My favorite cuisine is Cajun which is French cooking techniques using the South American and Haitian ingredients that were available. There are countless examples like that.

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          Ha, no they call it “meat” but of course there are chiles. Generally anchos & a guajillo and if I have one the smoked oaxacan pepper. rehydrated in the meat broth and blended with onion and roasted tomatillos, not tomato. It’s really good I just cannot think of it as chili.

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              Ha! It’s flavorful as fuck actually with the mostly ancho assortment and tomatillos but the venn diagram in my family for people who like meat heavy meals and the people who like very spicy (as in picante) food doesn’t have much overlap - me and the vegan are the only actual chiliheads.

              When I make the vegetarian chili, it gets jalapenos, tomatoes, lots of bottled chili powder, some tinned chipotle powder, leftover very spicy salsa, sometimes beer or a splash of whiskey, I keep adjusting it until it seems like it will be good, then leave it to simmer or in the slow cooker. it’s more of a refrigerator stew but always pintos, I don’t like any other beans in there.

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                Your vegetarian chili sounds better, and I’m definitely more on the carnivore side. I don’t know if I’ve ever made chili with pinto beans. I’m a kidney and red bean man myself.