Former President Donald Trump urged members of a crowd in Florida to vote and said that if he wins, they “won’t have to vote anymore.”

Speaking at a Turning Point Action event in West Palm Beach on Friday, Trump, who tried to overturn the 2020 election he lost, delivered a cryptic message.

“And again, Christians, get out and vote!” he said to a cheering audience. “Just this time. You won’t have to do it anymore. Four more years. You know what? It’ll be fixed! It’ll be fine! You won’t have to vote anymore, my beautiful Christians. I love you, Christians! I’m a Christian. I love you. Get out. You gotta get out and vote. In four years, you don’t have to vote again.”

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    What the fuck is supposed to be cryptic about this? He’s making it perfectly clear that he wants to overthrow democracy in the US. And everybody who votes for him is OK with that.

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      People asked the question before. It went something like:

      “You do realize that he’ll be a dictator, right?”

      " We don’t care. He’ll be our dictator and that’s all that matters."

      And then they’ll say they do it for freedom and democracy.

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        Or the more common answer:

        “He misspoke and the media is taking out of context.”

        Even though he has said it thirty different ways and this just happens to line up with the narrative.

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          Both groups exist and both ignore that the other exists. Just like every “anti-woke” comment is made. Half of them say it’s about some made up nuanced take, while the other half say “no it’s really just racism/sexism/homophobia”. Which pretty much sums up what Hillary said back in 2016.

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        There’s another angle to the dictator thing-

        A lot of people essentially think the president already is a dictator. That’s why even people on the left say things like, “why doesn’t Biden raise the minimum wage?!” when that requires an act of congress.

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          My favorite is “Why did Biden make shit so expensive!?” And all I can do is laugh, because my brain plays on a loop Biden sneaking around to all the stores swaping price tags and chuckling maniacally.

          And then I get sad because these were people I once respected as “intelligent”…

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          I think it’s less “they think the position is already a dictator” and more “the general public has absolutely no idea how the office of the president works, or how the powers and limitations on various branches work in general” which is a failing of their education, and a poor reflection on the country as a whole.

          Of course that’s exactly the way the republicunts like it, “keep the population dumb and they won’t even question why you’re oppressing them”

          If your only experience with the president and their powers comes from (for millennial anyway) various crises (manufactured and non) where the president says “I’m signing this thing to do this” and because the vast majority of congress is behind them, as well as the regular) rest of the population, and it gets done (I’m thinking of things like Iraq), I can see someone thinking “well the president signed a paper, so it MUST happen”

          Which is sad funny since I hear the minimum wage comment a lot, but like… How well do you think that will go? It will go just like the student loan bullshit.

          And republicunts are such fucking insecure losers, they will happily drag the entire planet down into their bullshit to prevent even one single other person from getting help that they believe they’re entitled to the entirety of.

          You know. Like Toddlers.

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            Where did you get any indication from what I said that I thought it was okay? I’m talking about why people aren’t more concerned about it like they should be.

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              So many people are so het up, they come sprinting in, gagging to fight someone.

              They need to just deep breathe twice and think a little, please.

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                Trump’s always been banking on everybody giving him the benefit of the doubt, and they do, but he thinks it’s because he’s so very clever that he’s tricking his opponents with his thinly veiled veneer of plausible deniability. In actuality they just do it because he’s rich.

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                  To be fair, if they are doing it because he is rich, then he is indeed tricking them. Even with all the reasons why he should be rich; owning a bunch of buildings, rarely paying anyone that does anything for him, being born rich… he actually still isn’t. He’s so bad with money that despite all that, he’s overall in the hole most of the time. Which is why he so vehemently defends any financial info coming out about him. It’s a point of pride to him that people think he is rich.

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        Those fuckers should be deported to some authoritarian shithole with Sharia law like Iran so they can appreciate what they’re throwing away because they’re terrified of “the gays”.

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          Same with the “migrants out” thing. If immigrants actually left, farmers and business would be desperate within days because all their hardest and/or cheapest workers just vanished and now there are no more truck drivers, no more field workers so crops left rotting on the field, no more waiters, … Prices of stuff would shoot up. UK tried this recently and that’s what happened.

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        “We want our dictator for… what are the good words again?”

        “You mean freedom and democracy?”

        “Yeah, whatever, for those!”

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      Many don’t think he can pull it off, which is the scary part that might let him do it.

      “Oh, that’s all talk. He can say what he wants but can’t do shit without the House and Congress, and if he wanted to change things to get more terms? With states majority agreement that’s required? Not in his lifetime. You worry for nothing, PassingThrough, it’s all showmanship, as it always has been. And no, the Army wouldn’t help such an obvious fool overthrow the government either.”

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        It’s crazy.

        “Oh, your drunk uncle Mike who has three arson convictions, thinks you turned the family against him, and is in your attached garage with gas and a lighter threatening to burn it down? Don’t worry about him, he’s harmless!”

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      Trump said it in a way that he could have meant that you won’t have to vote for him again. He kept saying “vote for me now and in 4 years you won’t have to vote again”. I’m sure if you made this criticism to Trump’s face he would act like you’re being unreasonable and pretend that of course he meant that he can only do 1 more 4 year term. Trump’s supporters would respond similarly. But that’s why it’s called a dog whistle, the message gets to the people he wants it to while it forces his detractors to debate what’s going on inside Trump’s head.

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      I’m guessing it’s cryptic because he can just say that he meant “for me” and not “in general.”

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      Also anyone who doesn’t go vote because of edgelord reasons or laziness is guilty. If the US becomes Russia v2.0, we’ll all die in WW3 guaranteed.

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    “I love you, christians. I am a christian!”

    Who the fuck talks like that? And who the fuck votes for a guy that talks like that?

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    Trump using the language of a tyrant is not an accident. When people say that democracy is on the line this election, we’re not being hyperbolic, we’re saying that because of statements like this. Please get out there and vote this November.

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      When people say that democracy is on the line this election, we’re not being hyperbolic

      The election system in the US has been under siege since the end of Jim Crow. The conservative response to the civil rights act has been to egalitarianize disenfranchisement.

      We’ve had Republicans chipping away at the functional organs of democracy since Eisenhower’s Red Scare leveraged the Hoover FBI to infiltrate and eradicate self-sufficient communities and their unionized labor leadership back in the 50s.

      Meanwhile, the Democrats’ leadership have never sat particularly well with the influx of minority voters following the Civil Rights Act. They’ve had to digest racist backlashes within their own party from the George Wallace Dixiecrat break away campaign under LBJ to the Hilary Clinton “birther” attacks launched at Obama during the '08 primary.

      The end result is Republicans openly embracing fascism at the state and local level, while Democrats dissolve their own primary system in pursuit of a rigid corporate sponsored nomination process.

      This isn’t something that’s going to be fixed in an election cycle. Trump losing won’t make Republicans less fascist. Kamala taking the nomination of the discarded carcass of an establishment insider like Biden won’t heal the divide in the Democratic Party. And it certainly won’t undo the fascist GOP takeovers in Texas, Florida, and Ohio.

      We’re in for a rocky road ahead under either Presidency.

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      If our democracy is so fragile that it can be destroyed by voting for the wrong person, then we have to fix some shit.

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        It’s not just one person. There are years of hijacking that the republican party has done to the us system, like packing the supreme court. Those must be fixed as soon as possible.

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    As an outsider I honestly just don’t get what people see in this idiot. How can you take someone that talk like that seriously? He sounds like a nutter that is promising crazy stuff that would literally mean the end of the USA as we know it.

    If he’d get his way with this and the other project 2025 stuff it’d honestly be the end of America I think.

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      Trump is a cult leader in all but name. His zealots support worldviews that have been made illegal, taboo, obsolete, or otherwise unacceptable, like white supremacy and racism, fascism, theocracy, homo-/transphobia, and mysogyny; they perceive this as an attack against their lifestyles by “the others.” They will rally to the loudest voice that speaks out against “the others” and support him as long as that remains true.

      Trump cultists are irrational creatures, you can’t apply rational expectations and deduce a satisfactory answer.

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      As an insider, it’s even worse. You didn’t have to suffer 4 years of continuous clusterfuck and embarrassment only to be topped off by a planned insurrection that they still try to gaslight everyone about.

      You’re absolutely correct that it would be the end of America.

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      I’m Canadian and whenever I’m abroad, the locals ask me what the fuck is wrong with Americans. Expecting I’ll know better bc we’re neighbours.
      Which is true, since we’re more likely to interact.
      All I can reply is, “They’re just totally fucked!” It’s that simple!

      Also, when I meet Americans abroad now, the first thing they do is apologize for America. That’s the only Canadian trait that’s rubbed off on them.

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      He promises simple solutions with no sacrifice, essentially just “I’ll fix it.” Certain people love that. Don’t care what the solution is, don’t care that the problem has been simplified beyond recognition, just fix shit.

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        Paraphrasing here:

        “Let’s just take the guns away. Due process after.”

        “I’ll have Medicare fixed. Just wait a week.”

        “Mexico will pay for it.”

        This is the insane dribble this fuck spews on the daily, and people eat it up.

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      I think what Trump’s following kind of reveals is a sad truth about humans generally; about a quarter of people are very stupid and very susceptible to cult-think. It doesn’t always manifest as support for a politician, it could be anti-vax beliefs, or racism, zionism etc.

      Wherever you are, about 25-30% of people are simply not equipped to think critically, and that stupidity is activated or weaponized under various conditions, most often during times of economic stress or social chaos. People who can’t understand the complex causes of a problem are easy to manipulate – you give them a simplistic answer.

      “It’s the jews” or “trans people are the root of your problems” etc.

      It can happen anywhere because a certain demographic of people are just dumb, and there’s no way around it other than trying to reduce human suffering across the board and making it less likely that anyone is struggling.

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      I think if Trumps plan plays out and if If Project 2025 is enacted it will likely have more than an effect on the US, it will likely have profound effects on the world. It will change geopolitics and economies through shifts in alliances, trade dynamics, nationalistic sentiments, and domestic economic policies.

      Thinking it through, it’ll probably move towards an increasingly complex global landscape, overshadowed by uncertainty and potential conflicts.

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      People who vote for Trump have been brainwashed by Fox News. It really is as simple as that.

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    Too all the Trump supporters, if you want, you can stop voting now. No, seriously, it is a hassle. Stay home, the rest of us can handle it.

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        I seriously want to just scatter pictures of this quote all over town… don’t see how any Republican could be on board with this unless they actually want a dictatorship

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    There’s nothing subtle about Trump. So when he say something blatantly stupid and evil, it doesn’t need translation or interpretation. If he says, “we’re going to ‘fix’ voting so that you’ll never have to worry about voting ever again” there only ONE way to interpret that. Believe people when they show you what they really are.

    It also doesn’t help that our mainstream, “liberal news media” (you know, the one that’s owned by only six corporations) is constantly running interference for Trump.

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    I’m not american, but I have a feeling this election is going to go into history.

    Vote for Trump and he’ll turn it into dictatorship.

    Vote for Harris and she’ll be the first woman president.

    What will it be?

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      I hope if Harris gets into office she will be more than just a token granted by the DNC to appease minority voters. We already saw Obama being a mediocre at best internally, and internationally brutal war criminal, president. Him being black did not make him a good president. And for Hillary Clinton the “she’s a women” trope failed catastrophically and brought us Trump in the first place.

      Harris needs to convince with policy and character, not with race or gender.

      EDIT: I did not mean that Harris would only convince with ther background. It is important to move past the tokenism approach that the DNC used to take.

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    Cryptically? This motherfucker is the most transparent asshole on the planet. He couldn’t convince a bucket of fish they were out of the water.

    He plain and clearly said “if I win it will be the end of democracy”. There isn’t subtext.

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    Wow, I mean technically the Antichrist and the False Prophet COULD be the same person, nothing in Revelation says they can’t.

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    In four years, you don’t have to vote again.

    Man, I thought it was just a misquote, but he kept going and getting more specific.

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    There’s nothing cryptic about that at all. He’s telling you what you should be believing for once.