Firefox’s Enhanced Tracking Protection (Strict Mode) is known to cause issues on x.com
There were no “issues”; everything was working completely fine. This is a deliberate decision to force people to turn off tracking protection.
I saw a recommendation to use Firefox’s container extension https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/containers, but it’s disabled in private browsing windows, and I always use private browsing windows.
Stop using twitter for f*cks sake
This is the internet; you can say “fuck” here.
Sir this is a Wendys, go rant somewhere else for fucks sake
Excuse me, I’m going to have to ask you not to curse here.
this is a Christian Minecraft server
I always thought it was “fuck’s sake”.
If you read what I posted and thought I was ranting, I’m not sure what to tell you. Touch grass for fuck’s sake?
shiiiit
Golly!
Gee willikers
“Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee-it”
- Clay Davis
It really baffles me how often I still see it talked about. Especially on Lemmy. I never liked it myself but now the musk owns it, I would’ve assumed there wouldn’t be much controversy here: it’s dead and gone, move on, people.
I’ve found a fair amount of strong loyalty to the place from all sorts of people. I was never a twitter person, so I don’t understand it, but AFAICT, all sorts of people have a real emotional bond to the place, like for them it’s been their main internet experience in life or something.
Seriously.
I made accounts on Mastodon and Blue Sky but most people still use Twitter, so if there’s info you’re looking for, or if you want to share things, you’re forced to use what most people are using.
I deleted my 2007-era Twitter account in 2022 and not once have I felt like I was missing out on any “info” or felt like I wasn’t able to share things.
I’ve never had a Twitter account and never felt the need for one, also haven’t been missing out on that junk. I’ve read lots of tweets, on occasions when I was offered a twitter link for whatever, but just never felt like I needed to join up at all. Just seems like a waste of time to get on social media where all the posts are just small bits of opinionated content without much depth.
Seriously, I just dont understand microblogging. It seems deliberately shallow.
Thats cool but it is a transitional thing. If you keep going back the transition doesn’t happen. Stand your ground.
I hear you … most people are still there (I’ve claimed in the past that it will be the MS Windows of social media, that no one really openly talks about using but is actually everywhere).
But I feel it may be useful to distinguish FOMO and social media gossip from actual useful information. I’m not saying there’s nothing useful on Twitter (I don’t actually know). But we’re talking about microblogging and social media here.
And Reddit, and Facebook while we’re at it
I was resistant to ending my use of reddit, but now they have nerfed the mobile site so bad I can’t even login anymore so I’ve stopped trying. I still peruse it on my PC at least once daily but I think that the moment RES finally stops working will spell the end of that.
As for Facebook. I mostly keep it around for an easy connection to family and friend and a few meme groups that amuse me. But again, only like once a day do I check in ion that site.
Edit: I should mention that I have never and will never use either of those website’s apps.
Stop humouring the assholes that are still on that bigoted network. It’s X not twitter. Twitter is dead.
Every time someone calls it twitter, don’t give them the satisfaction of disassociating themselves from Musky’s X.
Oh so you’re an X’er. You like to Xeet a lot eh?
Xcrete was right there, just saying
Perhaps they meant to put the asterisk in Twitter’s name like so: *
I think it is called the network effect. People are still using Twitter because the messages they want to see are being posted there, and those messages are being posted there because that’s where the audience is. So, basically, people are locked in.
This also means that any loss in user count has a double effect, as not only users are lost, but the utility of the service for the remaining users decreases. So, what I’m saying is, if Elon continues this way, at some point there will be a large exodus of users from Twitter, as each loss of users reduces the utility of Twitter further, triggering a chain reaction.
Of course, we can’t know when that happens, and since we’re both on Lemmy, we’ve already self-selected as people with little tolerance for enshittification.
I’m not so sure. I check in on the hot mess that is Twitter from time to time and it looks to me like the advertisers are returning from the ads that I have seen. I think it comes down to how willing Musk is to burn money on when Twitter actually dies and I bet he can find friends of a certain type to sell equity too to keep the shit show going.
I think we have reached the point that those that are willing to hold their noses are staying and those that aren’t have gone and that’s your new user figures.
The question is, why there still people using this shit ?
Depending on the research subject, people built networks on Twitter. It’s hard to move on another platform as you will loose your network.
People are still using that shit because other people they want to interact with are still using that shit. Network effects are hard to break.
I occasionally use it to complain at corporations, mostly when their websites show me captchas but occasionally for other customer service issues.
Same reasons why people still use Facebook - too many folks who think it’s still a good thing.
Do people think it’s a good thing, or simply the thing where those they know are?
This. I know FB/Meta is awful, but I have a ton of hobby and interest groups I participate in on the platform. So that’s why I stay. However, I have all sorts of browser add-ons that strip the site of all kinds of trackers, suggestions, and all sorts of annoyances. My FB is closer to FB a decade+ ago than what a “normal” user sees.
I’m honestly just there for Facebook marketplace
Do the add-ons you use specifically target Facebook? If so, what are you using to mitigate its manipulative/predatory designs?
Some. Other than basic anti-tracking add ons, Facebook Container is one, and so is Social Media Fixer, which will block whatever you tell it to on FB. I block all “suggested for you” as a keyword and it removes so much junk from FB. I have a couple more I think that help FB be more like its old self, but unfortunately I’m not home and can’t look them up right now on mobile.
Because of inertia. There are entire industries that were built around Twitter. For years, it was an incredible networking opportunity that you were missing out on if you weren’t active. For example, many artists used twitter for discoverability; They could post their art on Twitter, and it would get much broader reach than on other social networks.
This is why substitutes like Mastodon have struggled to take off, and it’s why even the early adopters still crosspost everything to both twitter and Mastodon. Mastodon simply doesn’t have the user base required to have that same kind of discoverability. It would need to reach a critical mass level where it’s able to sustain itself without twitter. And it’s unfortunately not there.
Whether it will ever reach that point is up for debate; The same way Reddit’s scummy practices were a huge boon for lemmy, only time will tell if the same will happen to twitter. The issue is that the vast majority of users simply don’t care about a negative experience on the site. Sure, there are vocal critics, but those are often the minority who are extremely incensed and will be the most likely to change. But once those critics have fled, the vast majority still remains on twitter and now there aren’t any critics pushing for change.
Agreed, it’s unfortunate that some people rely on it for work.
Personally I only go on there unintentionally when I don’t look at the link I am clicking on beforehand
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How might we help and encourage people to leave Twitter?
Highkey though I kind of don’t want to help people leave Twitter to go to Lemmy. While the increase in posts would be great, the kind of toxicity and general culture that follows can most definitely ruin a website.
Tbh I didn’t mean to Lemmy, so much as simply off Twitter in general, preferably to a non-corporate social site. It may be naive/idealistic, but I think those most inclined to leave would be the better of the bunch, and those in-between are more apt to go to another corporate site anyway (e.g. Threads).
I personally locked my account, and only going there to “spy” on some people only being active there, or to interact with some mutual. It’s too much of a toxic pit, the porn bots now even post illegal stuff, and the site is buggy. It was quite good for my mental health to delete that app from my phone though. I miss the community I had there, some I’m instead in contact on Discord (I have a Matrix account too, haven’t been using it much), some on Mastodon. That community was slowly disappearing since the Musk takeover, not because of my absence from what is now basically just a 4chan that is still somehow attracts corporations. I wonder if I manage to find a new one soon, or maybe even create my own.
Is there a problem other than Nazis and other far right idiots spamming their hot takes? That’s certainly a culture problem but hopefully most instances just ban Nazis instead of letting the cancer grow.
Most of the screenshots I see of Twitter posts aren’t from right wing extremists, but are still ignorant opinions and put-downs presented in an obnoxiously snarky way. The core of toxicity in Twitter isn’t about political affiliation, it’s about mean spirited anti-intellectual tribalism and people using ideals as a pretense to verbally abuse others.
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The only reason I was on Twitter was because I follow some famous people, politicians that I like and some interesting people. I have no following (except for those onlyfans bots) so maybe if the people we follow gets rid of Twitter then we have nothing to go there for.
I left Twitter just after musk bought it.
Twitter’s trying pretty hard on its own.
Even the people sticking around because they have followers keep getting banned. Guys: if you have to start a new account, do it somewhere better.
God I can’t wait for that website to die already
I feel like people will still be saying this in ten years (sadly)
Maybe it’ll be the next MySpace?
Is that not dead yet?
Just block Twitter. Why does anyone use it anymore?
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If you’re using a Firefox this isn’t a problem because they’re already blocking all of that. LoL 😂
We’re getting closer and closer to the complete destruction of this worthless shithole, keep it up elon!
Unfortunately, shaking off users who are digitally conscious enough to use Firefox (and recommend alternatives) probably improves Twitter’s odds.
issue detected: we are having trouble collecting enough personal info
Looks like they’re in A/B testing right now. You can have maximal impact by avoiding using twitter on those devices for the next few weeks.
I have an app called TrackerControl. It blocks a ton of shit. Here is one rule of thumb I have, if a website breaks because of this app, I’m not going to it. I don’t need it. I can live without it. So many apps work no problem. The ones who don’t, they want to fingerprint and track me.
Hey :) may I suggest rethinkDNS to have a more granular control over your installed application? Also it’s possible to block everything except the apps you trust while still being able to use your own DNS/wireguard VPN/proxy…
Also If you want a more in depth overview of every connection your phone attempts to make, give Pcapdroid a try !
while still being able to use your own DNS/wireguard VPN/proxy…
Wait, I thought the “downside” of this app was that it used your VPN connection, compared to NextDNS or the built in DNS feature of Android.
I also use AdAway rooted version and not really looking into changing it, but if you could clarify about this I could happily see it as an alternative :)
Hey :)
Wait, I thought the “downside” of this app was that it used your VPN connection.
It does, but if you have a VPN that let’s you send your traffic through wireguard (like protonVPN, don’t know about others :/) it will send all your traffic through that tunnel.
Also, there was a recent update which uses your wireguard’s DNS instead of rethink’s hardcoded internal DNS. That was the awaited updated I needed to fully switch to rethinkDNS.
There are still some quirks in the interface and a few strange behavior with wireguard when waking the phone up, but nothing that causes leaks in my experience, because if my wireguard tunnel isn’t working rethink isn’t able to make any requests !
Hope it helps :).
Samesies. What has become increasingly frustrating is that many opt-out emails require me to disable tracker control. It should be illegal to force tracking to avoid future tracking
I saw a recommendation to use Firefox’s container extension https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/containers, but it’s disabled in private browsing windows, and I always use private browsing windows.
Then just… enable the containers in private tabs? The option is right there in the extensions menu.
Twitter forcing me to stop using Twitter is an incredible galaxy brain suicide maneuver. I can’t wait to see it explode spectacularly in a blaze of stupid right in elon’s face
Glad I don’t use Xitter.
This is a feature, not a bug. It’s designed to wean you off using twitter.