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    donald trump gets 10 warnings for intimidating witnesses and indefinite trial postponement for hoarding and most likely leaking classified documents. Sweet sweet justice.

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      People keep trying to convince me it’s not evidence of two justice systems.

       

      But it is.

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        It’s evidence that we live in corporatocracies masquerading as “democracies”. The 0.1%, shielded by the liability protections of the corporations they own, and their armies of lobbyists — they finance our politics, choose who ends up on the ballot, and shadow write most of our legislation, policies, and regulations.

        Trump is free because he is a part of that < 0.1%.

        The Boeing execs who oversaw systemic fraud, lied to the FAA, and murdered 166 people still ARE FREE AND RICH. Why? Because they are the 0.1%.

        The IPCC hosts fossil fuelled climate summits in fossil fuel exporting countries, inviting fossil fuel corporations and lobbyists to attend — at a scientific conference about how to solve the crisis they created and profited from! why? Because we live in corporatocracies.

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          The US is a kleptocracy, we’re ruled by the people who have looted the public

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          If any country’s government spied on its own people as much as big business does in America, people would flip out. But in America, big business really is the government.

          We are so fucked…

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            But no one would really “flip out” because none one could really do anything about it.

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          Good thing guillotines don’t care about wealth, only the size of your neck.

          We’ll just have to make the hole slightly larger to fit fatter necks.

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        I think this is a consequence of any (unregulated) capitalistic system in general. The system is founded on money, more money will give anyone more influence and power over the system

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          It’s a consequence of our “growth at all costs” take on capitalism. Capitalism is only livable for the average person when it’s kept in check by a strong government and corruption is vigorously prosecuted. We’ve decided that corruption just happens and there’s nothing we can do about it, and so there are no disincentives to corrupting government.

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          This has nothing to do with an economic system. This same shit is worse even in communist systems, and I’m not even going to try and point fingers at that system and say it is.

          The real reason is because of power, and a class system that protects its own.

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              Correct, no clue why I pointed this out and got downvoted but you say the same thing and get people agreeing with you…guess I should have kept with the “capitalism bad” circle jerk.

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                because the class system is built into capitalism.

                you can’t have unchecked capitalism without an exploited underclass.

                and you said it has nothing to do with the economic system, which is false, hence the downvotes…

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                  The ability to move upward in capitalism is much greater than in any other current economic system. Acting like capitalism is the sole reason for the current divide is silly

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      For the record, Aaron Swartz never actually went to trial, nor was he “sentenced” to anything.

      Federal prosecutors came after him with overzealous charges in an effort to make him accept a plea deal (they do that a lot), which he rejected. It would have gone to court where the feds would have had to justify the charges they were bringing.

      But that never happened because he killed himself.

      We don’t actually know how this all would have played out.

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        The comment in OPs post is misleading but he did nevertheless kill himself because of the justice system trying to prosecute him for accessing science most likely funded by public money in the first place.

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        And will never know, selfishly speaking, the possible extent of his further contributions to society. Died at 26 after an incredible life already.

        Besides his life, what else did they steal from us?

        RIP Aaron

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      donald tr*mp gets 10 warnings for intimidating witnesses and indefinite trial postponement for hoarding and most likely leaking classified documents. Sweet sweet justice.

      Why are you censoring Donald Trump’s name? Is it a swear word now in your country?

      We’re big girls here, we can take a little rude language, don’t worry :)

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        I don’t know why but i just didn’t want to type that slur. It’s edited now.

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    Look, the kid was a hero, but this is also patently false.

    He was not sentenced to 35 years. The trial hadn’t started. 35 years was the maximum possible sentence. He was given a plea deal for 6 months that he rejected.

    We don’t need to spin lies to make his story more tragic than it already is.

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      35 years max, plea for 1/2 that was rejected. He was going to get the book thrown at him to make an example. 5 years minimum but I wouldn’t doubt 10-20.

      The rapist traitor that headed a insurrection on Jan 6 2021 has never spent a day in jail and is still the frontrunner for president to be legally elected in 2024.

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        still the frontrunner for president to be legally elected in 2024.

        The front runner? Really?

        I’m not being sarcastic. Im genuinely interested, but can’t be arsed to start going through polls because it’d mean going through the biases of the pollers.

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          Just remember polls gave Hillary almost a guaranteed win. For all intents and purposes, Trump is the front runner regardless of what any polling says

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          From the nearly all the polls I see, yes. But like you said, bias of pollers. I’ve seen a few that go more in depth to try and figure out the “responds to polls” bias, but I still only see biden ahead by a margin. With those small numbers of concentrated effort vs the wide reach general polls, trump is. It does not instill any level of confidence in me that the “general” polls don’t reflect the “general” voting bias. Even without all of this analysis, just a few million voting for trump is unbelievably concerning to not just the future of the US, but the world that this single country dominates. These fascists are campaigning on the cut your nose to spite your face philosophy.

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          Bro he’s been the front runner the entire time.

          This is why people’s sycophantica for Biden are so problematic. [email protected]

          Trump also seems to understand poll at about 8%

          Which means Biden needs to be leading by that amount to win.

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    If I remember correctly, it wasn’t even illegal since these scientific articles should have been public to begin with because they used public funds.

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    Shout out to Alexandra elbakyan. She continues part of aaron’s work by running sci-hub and libgen, but lives safely out of reach of the american criminal “justice” system 💔

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    He didn’t even share them as far as I know, he just downloaded them. And the trial hadn’t started yet when he committed suicide.

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      He didn’t get the chance to share them because he was caught downloading them, and his download requests were getting blocked.

      And to be clear, he wasn’t downloading from the Internet as one might download a car, he went into a restricted networking closet and connected directly to the switch, leaving a computer sitting there sending access requests. He had to keep going back to it to check on the progress, which is when they caught him.

      And the trial hadn’t started yet when he committed suicide.

      Yeah, I agree with the sentiment of the post, but this is just wildly misleading. He was not sentenced to anything, he committed suicide before the trial.

      He was given a plea deal for 6 months that he rejected, in an effort to make the feds justify the ludicrous charges they were pressing. Had it gone to trial, he certainly wouldn’t have been found not guilty, but it’s unlikely many of those charges would have stuck. It’s extremely unlikely he would actually have served 35 years.

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    That’s not exactly what happened.

    Aaron committed suicide before his case went to trial, and so he was never convicted let alone sentenced. 35 years was never even likely; had it gone to trial there’s every reason to think he’d have been acquitted outright, or at worst given a slap on the wrist. Not that he should have even been charged, of course.

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    I highly recommend watching the documentary on him, Internet’s own boy.

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    He’s probably rolling in his grave at the enshittification of reddit now too

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      Well killing oneself is always one’s own choice, but it’s terrible that he was given such a ridiculous sentence for no more than a copyright issue. Not even sure if he made money on the material, but even if he did he should have gotten maybe a fine, and imprisonment is just insane.

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        He wasn’t sentenced, he died before he could go to trial or accept a plea deal, but there is record of a 6 month jail sentence being offered to him.