“Could be?”
We know it is. I don’t wish for Covid again, but remember when all the waterways started clearing up (didn’t dolphins show up in Venice at some point?) and the smog cleared in places that haven’t seen a blue sky in decades?
“Just speculations, nobody really knows and there’s no way to find out!”
You joke, but a coworker literally said “well there’s no way to really know for sure it was because people were staying inside, it was probably just more forest food than usual that spring” when I pointed out a positive if covid being nature bouncing back just a tiny bit.
Also can someone tell me what “forest food” is? Sure I know what he meant but that’s no fun
Who cares about the environment when we could be hoarding more money. Can anybody please think about those poor CEOs? :(
CEOs can make more money by offloading office costs to the employee - if your work force is remote, you don’t need to pay for an office space.
This increases your profit, because your expenses are lower.
But you can’t invest all that stolen money in inflated office building real estate prices either.
This exactly. My boss said the quiet part out loud the other day.
The CEO owns the building. He pays for the electrical, water, etc. All of that is wasted when only a handful of people come into the office.
So…he required all of us to be in the office so that his investment works out.
Or he could sell the asset, recoup what value he can from it, and save the utility/service/material expense associated with running a physical office.
It will eventually even out. It takes time for new business to displace old models, but it will eventually work itself out. In business, ‘no cost’ vs ‘some cost’ will always move toward ‘no cost’. In the short term, businesses that hold physical property (at least the ones that don’t need physical office space) are trying to do what they can to minimize the loss of value from falling commercial real estate values. Inflate the value, sell the asset, then let someone else take the loss.
Never, never, never, will I spend 1h the morning and 1h the evening in traffic jam to do 15 miles, never again.
EDIT: in winter snow storm it was 2-3h !!!
Amen.
I was one day a week in the office during the pandemic. We had assets which required a physical presence, but with a rotating shift of 1-2 people in the office each day, we could keep the required coverage. Then my workplace started bringing us back to the office in 2022. It started with 3 days a week and we started hearing rumors of a full return to office. It was well know that upper management was hostile to remote work. So, I flipped my LinkedIn profile to “looking” (or whatever the setting was called, it’s been a while). And I started both actively applying and responding to recruiters. I eventually got a message from a reciter who led with “REMOTE WORK OPPORTUNITY”, yes the message started in ALL CAPS, though the rest was normal and hit all the points I was interested in. I figured, what the hell, can’t hurt to talk. That was just shy of two years ago, I have been into an office since late 2022. It’s going to have to be a hell of a bad situation for me to deal with commuting again.
I’ve been forced back to the office. I hate it. I hate the commute. I hate the cubicle. I hate the forced small talk interaction with coworkers.
I’m more productive when I worked remote. Less hassled. Less tired from not having to commute.
It makes me not want to work here any longer.
time to get into microwaved fish, loud techno music, and exotic colognes
I’m already into all that shit!
Sooooo… quit?
When my org announced RTO, I started looking for another job. A month later I had a new gig and a nice pay bump. Nobody’s gonna look out for you but you, my friend.
For some reason I read that as, “co-workers” and imagined two cows drinking coffee by the water machine chit chatting about nothing.
RTO, much like everything else is about rich people. The Canadian Federal government just announced that all public servants must be in office 60% of the time by September (up from 40%). And the only reason is due to lobbying by real estate holders and businesses downtown.
I’m so fucking tired of rich people not only having the advantage of being rich but also getting every other advantage handed to them by the government.
Could be? It absolutely is! That would be an extra 50 miles I would have to drive every weekday. They have entire global organizations meeting together to figure out where to set goals for cutting emissions, but these easily-avoidable emissions are fine apparently. The so-called “leaders” aren’t taking the problem seriously.
It’s terrible for everyone except billionaire property investors.
You mean the same companies responsible for our current climate may not care about what RTO does to their workers or the world?
: shocked Pikachu:
Already is.
My commute is already about 10% longer thanks to the extra traffic. People fled the city and moved to the burbs after covid, then RTO hit and now a bunch of them are on the roads. Easily added a measurable amount of time to my drive, and I’ve been doing the same commute for a decade.
“Could be?” Like the way falling on your head from 5 stories up “could be” unhealthy?
Yeah but it’ll make a bunch of fuckbrains feel good, tho.
Could be? Seriously?
But “we’re better together!”*
*terms and conditions may apply. Past results do not guarantee future gains.
“Sounds good to us!” – CEOs of the world.
The people who care about this stuff never bothered to gain any wealth or power so it doesn’t really matter