• RGB3x3@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    In case people don’t know what Project 2025 is.

    Here’s the document:

    https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/24088042-project-2025s-mandate-for-leadership-the-conservative-promise

    AT LEAST READ THE FOREWARD. It very meticulously lays out their 4 goals:

    1. Restore the family as the centerpiece of American life and protect our children.
    1. Dismantle the administrative state and return self-governance to the American people.
    1. Defend our nation’s sovereignty, borders, and bounty against global threats.
    1. Secure our God-given individual rights to live freely—what our Constitution calls “the Blessings of Liberty

    In plain language they want to:

    1. Effectively make LGBTQ+ persons illegal, unable to marry, adopt, or even exist openly, nationally ban abortion, ban education about black history and systemic racism;
    2. hamstring or eliminate a bunch of government agencies like the Department of Education, the EPA, the DOJ, Department of Homeland Security, and to eliminate many positions within the federal government or install loyal puppets;
    3. close our borders completely, pull out of NATO and the UN, invest heavily in oil, coal, and natural gas while divesting in renewable energy and removing environmental regulations, and exert extreme control over tech companies and universities;
    4. create school voucher programs which very much are to allow parents to segregate their children and use tax dollars to fund conservative, religious, private schools at k-12 levels, and eliminate social welfare programs. Also includes the contradiction of “champion the dynamic genius of free enterprise” and “include antitrust enforcement against corporate monopolies.”

    The whole thing is full of conservative buzz words, “anti-woke” rhetoric, and contradictions about free enterprise while wanting to exert control over people and “big tech.”

    But it’s also dangerous because they’re going to attempt to consolidate power to the next Republican president. There are complicated and far-reaching consequences to the things they’re proposing that would take an academic paper to get into. For example, Ron DeSantis just signed a bill making lab-grown meat illegal because of the “global elite.” It doesn’t make any sense, but it’s part of the reactionary, anti-leftist, culture war bullshit the Republicans are on right now.

    That summary should be enough to show why this is so dangerous.

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      Here’s the education of the guy who heads the think tank that made this bullshit up:

      Roberts earned a Bachelor of Arts degree in history from the University of Louisiana at Lafayette, a Master of Arts in history from Virginia Tech, and a Ph.D. in American history from University of Texas at Austin.

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Roberts_(academic)

      So basically, a history professor with 3rd rate qualifications from 4th rate universities.

      No experience or knowledge in politics whatsoever.

      If this is the garbage that actually sparks off the next US civil war, I will lose my fucking mind at the stupidity of it all.

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        He’s the president of the fucking Heritage Foundation. That makes him the head of one of the most influential political organisations in the country.

        That’s much more important than what his PhD was on.

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        10 months ago

        I’m on board with bashing project 2025, but I don’t think I’d call those “4th rate universities,” at least not UT Austin

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        So basically, a history professor with 3rd rate qualifications from 4th rate universities.

        I’m sorry, what’s up bro?

        I’ll never get this snob-tier shit, where you need to go to Eaton, Cambridge, and Oxford before we can take your bigotry seriously.

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          There are plenty of first tier universities in the US. Shame this guy couldn’t get in to any of them

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            10 months ago

            There are plenty of first tier universities in the US.

            Some of the dumbest people in this country graduated Ivy

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      If you take them at face value, 1-3 sound like positive goals - I know they’ve been complelty twisted into terrible shit.

      Here’s what I belive they should be.

      1. I don’t care what kind of family you have (lgbtq++ or not), but children need to raised properly. While there’s a million ways to do it, the “ipad” kid isn’t one of them. To me “Centerpeice” means creating an economy/socity where people actually want to raise kids again - from better living wages, reduce the cost of good, housing costs, proper heath care, and work schedules that allow the parents to actually raise the kid. A stay-at-home parent should be optional for the family, thats not so easily acomplished in today’s economy
      2. There’s certently an issue with our goverment administration, from the billions unaccounted for at the pentagon to the town not-elected sherrifs/officals who have zero accountability. That has to be fixed.
      3. Defend the boarder, only let people in legally, and don’t let randoms from any where in the world. If people really are sneaking in by the truck load like they say - what’s stopping someone with a major crimal record of violence from enterering the nation and attacking people. Inaddtion, if we’re going to do major humanitarian projects to help refuges, we need to focus on our own homeless and struggling citizens as well.
      4. Take religion out of the conversation. But, for the most part we do have a lot of freedoms - if you can afford them. In theory, you can live where ever you like, work where ever you like, marry whom you like, and say what you like. In practice, it’s difficult to break generational poverty. People can’t move because they need the money to support their family. Let’s sat your pop was making enough money for your whole family 10 years ago, but now your pop got sick and can’t work, you and your siblings still in school, and your mom is struggling to find anything more than $10/hour because minimum in her state is still $7.25. Government aid is doing just enough for you to keep pop alive, you to eat and keep the house for now. Be careful if drop out of school to start working full time, they’ll drop the aid by double whatever you make so you loose the house if you work, but can’t save for anything if you don’t work.

      Not really sure where I was going with 4…but that needs to be fixed.

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    10 months ago

    Before the civil war southerners talked shit about northerners as too comfortable and effete to fight. We know how that worked out. All fascists are bound to lose eventually. The question is how much pain and death will they cause before being suppressed.

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      Before the civil war southerners talked shit about northerners as too comfortable and effete to fight.

      After, too. The shit talking never really ended. It’s been 160 years of smack.

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    I’m old and out of shape, so I’m not the ideal soldier, but if the conservatives push that shit and there’s an organized resistance by sane, compassionate people who care about people, I’d try to do my part with them.

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    No, I’m gonna sit back and laugh as a bunch of guys who couldn’t schedule a meeting at the four seasons try to overthrow the world’s oldest democracy.

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      Do not underestimate Trump. The last time people did that he won the damned election.

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        Do not underestimate Trump.

        You can make some serious missteps by overestimating him.

        But look around. Cop riots on ever campus from Columbia to UCLA with pigs firing tear gas and clubbing professors indiscriminately. All because some kids said “Free Palestine” on the lawn. There’s this sense that things will be so much worse under Trump, when its all spiraled completely out of control six months before the next election.

        Win or lose, this is turning into a country by, of, and for cops. They own our world, no matter who sits in the White House. The only real difference is whether the President eggs them on or looks the other way.

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      10 months ago

      We’re a constitutional Republic, dipshit. We’re not even a true democracy and calling us the oldest when there are PUBS older than our country is ridiculous. We are YOUNG.

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        10 months ago

        According to wikipedia:

        Under a minimalist definition of democracy, rulers are elected through competitive elections while more expansive definitions link democracy to guarantees of civil liberties and human rights in addition to competitive elections.

        Feel free to edit if you disagree.

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    Physically? I couldn’t do it, not anymore. Too many health conditions.

    But anyone bringing trouble to my street or doorstep, is going to have a bad day.

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    Sure. I have a lot of issues with the US but if fascists overthrow the constitutional order every American has a moral obligation to restore the rule of law.

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    10 months ago

    Would you fight a civil war?

    With who? Against… who? Like, do I just go down to the city center and start swinging punches? Or are we saying there’s some kind of mobilized resistance movement that’s led by… uh… who, exactly?

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      10 months ago

      Just like in bush v gore, Supreme Court may say immunity is allowed, but only for this 1 case.

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    It will mean the experiment failed. I’ll go back to Europe where my ancestors came from, in the blink of an eye, and watch with popcorn as this place turns into Christian Iran

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    I’m chronically ill, while I would certainly help in a capacity which avoids direct combat situations; I still would help those on the left combat the fascist Republicans!

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    I’m a pacifist, so no, I don’t think I could live with myself if I took another person’s life, unless it were in self-defense. I would nope the fuck outta the country though, and relinquish citizenship.