• MrJameGumb@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    42
    arrow-down
    5
    ·
    8 months ago

    I am a middle aged white guy and I honestly don’t give a shit about the Beatles lol

    They have maybe 4 or 5 songs I actually like and I’ve always said they were overrated

  • ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    35
    ·
    8 months ago

    I think my favorite Beatles fact is they were being taxed at like a 90+% rate and didn’t even know for a couple years.

    When they found out and took it to court the judge basically said “you were making so much money you didn’t even realize you were being taxed at all. Sucks to suck we’re gonna keep taxing you at the same rate”

  • reev@sh.itjust.works
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    35
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    8 months ago

    Am I the only on here that actually likes the Beatles? They’re catchy and familiar, not to mention have some weird and whacky unusual stuff like Revolution 9. Also found the conspiracy theory fun to dive into.

    Obviously music is extremely subjective but you can’t tell me that their music was not objectively a massive deal, at least historically.

    • Son_of_dad@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      9
      ·
      8 months ago

      I also love that their music was essentially mostly all written, composed, produced, and edited by the 4 of them. Nowadays I’m told about how _____ is such a great musician, then I look at the album credits and there’s like 20 song writers, 50 producers, 100+ sound mixers, crew, editors, etc. So like are those people that good if they need 200+ people behind them making it listenable?

      I guess what I’m saying is that new music is over produced, and I appreciate the simplicity of older music like the Beatles

    • theangryseal@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      5
      ·
      8 months ago

      I love the Beatles. I guess I am a middle aged white guy now, but they’ve been my favorite band since I was a kid.

    • no banana@lemmy.worldOP
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      6
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      8 months ago

      There’s nothing wrong with their music. It’s not what I listen to, but I don’t dislike them.

    • EnderMB@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      5
      ·
      8 months ago

      I don’t mind them. I think if you listen to them through the lens of being one of the first bands of their kind, their appeal makes far more sense.

      As a story, the way they honed their craft is very interesting. While I doubt it’s all “hard work”, they’re a good example of how practice makes perfect.

  • Vespair@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    29
    arrow-down
    5
    ·
    8 months ago

    Hating any music is weird, as hate takes vastly more effort than indifference.

    Hating specifically anything of comparable acclaim as the Beatles is, frankly, just contrarianism for the sake of contrarianism.

    If you didn’t like them you just wouldn’t like them, but what you actually like is not liking them as a factor of your personality.

    • hark@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      8 months ago

      It’s possible to hate something without being active about it. Saying “I hate lima beans” doesn’t necessarily mean you’re going on a hate campaign against lima beans, it just means you have a strong distaste for them. It’s a valid feeling regardless of how many others love lima beans. In fact, lots of other people loving something and talking about it nonstop and calling it the best thing ever will obviously mean someone who hates that thing will get annoyed hearing about something they hate, so it’s fine to express that distaste.

      • Vespair@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        8 months ago

        My guy, are we just going to entirely ignore the context of this literally being a comment in a “look at me I’m so different for not liking the Beatles” post? Yeah, what you’re saying may be true, but we’re talking about somebody who literally is making a campaign out of their disdain. Context and nuance people, Jesus Christ.

        • hark@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          8 months ago

          How is that any worse than making a post saying “I love the Beatles”? In fact, the post is getting proven correct where a simple singular post attracts so many responses.

          • Vespair@lemm.ee
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            3
            ·
            8 months ago

            How is that any worse than making a post saying “I love the Beatles”?

            Yes, I agree. As I said here 10 hours ago:

            The point is hatred is its own kind of fandom, as both camps center around the thing.

            My point is that they are the same thing, and thus methinks the lady doth protest too much.

    • Glemek@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      4
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      8 months ago

      The Beatles are so ubiquitous and generally acclaimed though, you don’t really have to go out of your way to encounter their music or artifice of their cultural legacy. If people always want to argue with you about it, or are obstinate when you would like to listen to something else? Then I can see pretty easily how someone’s distaste for them could grow over time until they would describe it as hate.

    • MrJameGumb@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      8
      arrow-down
      10
      ·
      8 months ago

      Did you just suggest that anyone who claims to dislike the Beatles is lying just to be difficult? Believe it or not it is actually possible to dislike things, even critically acclaimed popular things, beyond the point of indifference. Honestly your statement is what sounds like pure contrarianism meant to stir up drama lol

      • Vespair@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        17
        arrow-down
        5
        ·
        edit-2
        8 months ago

        No, I’m claiming hating the Beatles is a choice. Hate is active. People who dislike things don’t waste their time thinking about how much they dislike them and telling people proudly how much they dislike them, they just move on.

        In fact, I’m pretty luke-warm on the Beatles as a whole (though I can certainly appreciate their songwriting and understand their massive popularity). The point is hatred is its own kind of fandom, as both camps center around the thing. I don’t bring up the Beatles because I don’t have many opinions on them; that’s vastly more passive than this person proudly declaring their dislike for Popular Thing™

        • MrJameGumb@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          6
          arrow-down
          8
          ·
          8 months ago

          Doing literally anything besides just existing and breathing the air each day is “a choice”. That doesn’t mean people only do things just to annoy you

          • shneancy@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            7
            arrow-down
            4
            ·
            8 months ago

            disliking =/= hating

            i dislike most rap music, which means i don’t actively look for that genre of music to listen to it, but i won’t burst into flames if a friend of mine puts some rap in the queue at the party, and i won’t complain about it (unless they’ve been hogging the queue with non stop 3h of rap, then i will complain)

            i hate dishonesty and manipulation, if i spot it i’ll instantly feel a surge of intense negative emotions and a strong repulsion to whoever was dishonest or manipulative (relative to the offence of course, lying about eating the snack i was saving vs lying about idk being faithful don’t prompt the same reaction)

            i don’t think you can really hate any genre of music or particular band, as the other person said, proclaiming yourself a “hater” of a popular genre or group is just contrarianism for contrarianism’s sake, 5 years down the line it’ll stop being cool to hate on that music and that’s when you stop “hating” them

  • General_Effort@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    18
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    8 months ago

    Trivia (from Wikipedia): “Taxman” from their 1966 album Revolver was the group’s first topical song and the first political statement they had made in their music.

    “Taxman” was influential in the development of British psychedelia and mod-style pop, and has been recognised as a precursor to punk rock. When performing “Taxman” on tour in the early 1990s, Harrison adapted the lyrics to reference contemporaneous leaders, citing its enduring quality beyond the 1960s. The song’s impact has extended to the tax industry and into political discourse on taxation.

    Unlike their other political songs, which are fairly vague peace&love jobs, this one tackles a concrete issue: It protests the 95% top marginal tax rate.


    You’ve heard how “the boomers” screwed up everything for later generations. Here’s exhibit A from pop culture. Don’t just think about evil, old men in smoky backrooms.

  • AlphaOmega@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    17
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    8 months ago

    I used to work with a lot of young people and some of them told me they hated the Beatles. So I would randomly play Beatles songs and occasionally ask them what they thought. Turns out they never even listened to the Beatles except for maybe a couple of pop/radio songs. It was just a fad to hate on them

    • no banana@lemmy.worldOP
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      8
      ·
      8 months ago

      That is not surprising to me in the slightest. Honestly I just posted this because I knew it would lead to a discussion I’d love to read. People have such strong feelings on music.

    • Baylahoo@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      8 months ago

      As one of the “young” people at least when it comes to the Beatles, I don’t hate the Beatles but I absolutely don’t get the hype living decades after their big run. A few songs are annoying because of overplaying. That colors the band to a lot of people my age. I find them mostly boring and seeing the hype at the time is wild, but so will the people 20 years from now for my music. When people feel like it’s over hyped then they “hate” it. I find most of the Beatles music as inoffensive and a little boring. Don’t hate it but don’t care for it. I think most haters probably feel similar but being controversial makes the conversation more interesting.

  • penquin@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    13
    ·
    8 months ago

    I don’t hate them. I just don’t listen to their music. It’s not my taste. I do appreciate their significance and popularity, though. I just don’t really enjoy their music.

    • III@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      8 months ago

      Same judging jug faces, in my experience. Not liking the Beatles is unfathomable to a lot of people.

      • penquin@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        8 months ago

        It should be fathomable to those people. We are human and have different interests.

    • The Menemen!@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      edit-2
      8 months ago

      The original ones. They are still popular among Gen X and Millenials. Personally, I never like the Beatles. I don’t hate them, but I find their music slightly annoying.

          • 0ops@lemm.ee
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            3
            ·
            edit-2
            8 months ago

            Funny, I love the Beatles but that’s one song from them I don’t really care for. I want to like it but it somehow manages to be one of my least favorite Beatles songs and Clapton solos. Love the kinks too though

            Edit: I definitely don’t hate while my guitar gently weeps, or even dislike it. It’s a good song. But if you ask me the Beatles have at least a couple dozen better ones

    • RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      8 months ago

      GenX here that would fit “middle aged” and I don’t care about the Beatles. Yeah, they’ve got some good songs, but as a group or needing to have all their songs? Nah. Whatever.

  • Skullgrid@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    9
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    edit-2
    8 months ago

    The same boomers when you say bands playing at 400bpm are expressing emotions and working harder than the guy bending to the blues note slowly for the millionth time.

    It’s got no soul! How can you refine yourself through hours of practice and technique and dedication and also express yourself at the same time???

      • Skullgrid@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        arrow-down
        5
        ·
        8 months ago

        really now. why don’t you try to play AUM by Archspire and compare how much dedication and effort that takes compared to playing Detroit Rock City

        I’m sure the bendy boomer zillionaires were just as dedicated as the impoverished canadians that risk bankrupcy whenever they tour.

        get back to me when you realise that it’s going to take you about 15 mins to play detroit rock city, but probably a year to learn how to play AUM.

        • sanpedropeddler@sh.itjust.works
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          3
          ·
          8 months ago

          I know whatever musicians were playing that faster track put countless hours into learning to play their style, but so does every other professional musician. That to me sounds like complete garbage, just as I’m sure slower lyrical music sounds like garbage to you.

          Different kinds of musicians spend their time improving different aspects of their playing. Some of it you will appreciate, and some you won’t. You don’t have to be an elitist about it and pretend your favorite genre is the only one that requires any skill to perform well. Most people simply don’t care how fast you can play those technical passages that are so distorted they sound like white noise to the average person. They would rather perfect their tone and style.

          • Skullgrid@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            arrow-down
            4
            ·
            edit-2
            8 months ago

            I know whatever musicians were playing that faster track put countless hours into learning to play their style, but so does every other professional musician. That to me sounds like complete garbage, just as I’m sure slower lyrical music sounds like garbage to you.

            I see excuses, not bleeding fingers. For real. Go try it. Come back to me later when you fucking manageto play that music. Or just admit you’re wrong.

            You don’t have to be an elitist about it and pretend your favorite genre is the only one that requires any skill to perform well.

            It’s almost as if me and OP are trying to do this about the boomers and their favourite genre/band.

            They would rather perfect their tone and style.

            Why do you feel the faster music has trash tone? Isn’t it all just opinions maan?

            If you don’t like heavy metal, sure. Let me get a different example for you.

            Paganini’s Caprice no.24 it has slow passages and faster passages

            Or some Chopin

            Do you want to bitch about tone for that too?

            The whole idea is that when boomers shit on music that’s over 100 BPM, they’re assholes. You want to come to that idea and say that "um akshually, the boomers are right, music is about “FEELING” and “TOAN” and your guys are too fast and the tone is too scary? I compared it to Kiss, your great granddad probably would probably shit himself if he heard the devil sounds coming out of ace frehley’s amp.

            Defending rock TOAN is not where you want to be. It’s basically over, boomers are dead and Tim killed them with his “Boomer bends” comment.

            • sanpedropeddler@sh.itjust.works
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              8 months ago

              I don’t even play the guitar, but if we’re challenging each other to play each other’s instruments, then so be it. Come back to me when you can play with this guy’s tone quality and phrasing. You’ll notice its a little harder than it looks.

  • Agent641@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    7
    ·
    8 months ago

    Why do you think someone would go to the trouble of drilling 2 extra holes in each of these containers?

      • Agent641@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        edit-2
        8 months ago

        My first thought was that it might aid in draining them as an air hole, to stop it from going glub blub, especially if they contained something really viscous like honey or oil, but then why not just one air hole, and why not higher up?

        My second thought was that maybe someone just intended to make them look like faces for some reason.