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      Lynn Doan Tue, March 19, 2024 at 11:14 AM GMT·1 min read

      (Bloomberg) – Reddit Inc., the social media platform gearing up for an initial public offering this week, said Nokia Oyj has accused it of infringing some of their patents.

      Nokia Technologies, the company’s licensing business, sent Reddit a letter on Monday with the claims, and Reddit is evaluating them, according to a filing made Tuesday. “As we face increasing competition and become increasingly high profile, the possibility of receiving more intellectual property claims against us grows,” Reddit said in the filing. Nokia’s claims come as Reddit prepares for an initial public offering in an effort to raise hundreds of millions of dollars. The company has been working toward a listing for years, and its public market debut this week is set to become a high-profile addition to the year’s roster of newly and soon-to-be public companies.

      Nokia is no stranger to patent fights. In February, the company reached a patent agreement with Chinese phone maker Vivo, ending a years-long dispute that dragged the two companies into court and forced Vivo to pull out of Germany. In 2021, Daimler and Nokia settled a dispute over the licensing of wireless technology patents in cars, ending a legal battle that had at one point threatened sales of the iconic Mercedes brand in its home country.

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    Nokia is no stranger to patent fights. In February, the company reached a patent agreement with Chinese phone maker Vivo, ending a years-long dispute that dragged the two companies into court and forced Vivo to pull out of Germany. In 2021, Daimler and Nokia settled a dispute over the licensing of wireless technology patents in cars, ending a legal battle that had at one point threatened sales of the iconic Mercedes brand in its home country.

    Is Nokia becoming some sort of patent troll?

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      There is a Nokia branch called Nokia Technologies. They invest money in R&D, they file for genuine patents involving new technology, for instance in audio and video compression. (They want to sue Netflix or already sued). Them defending themselves against patent abuse is how they earn money. And they go against other big corps. This is vastly different than your typical patent troll.

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        Is the only difference that they aren’t actively buying up and hoarding other patents not filed in house? Because what you described is SOP for patent trolls.

        It boils down to how broadly they interpret infringements. Not whether they did the R&D themselves (I.E. not buying companies for their patents)

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          Be careful not to assign a “patent troll” label to everyone defending their patent portfolio. Where do you mark the line?

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            I’m a software engineer. Most things should not be patentable.

            Look and feel? No. Basic architecture? No. Given the same set of problems, engineers are very likely to come up with similar solutions.

            I once designed an extremely complicated framework for TV apps. My boss at one point was impressed because he sat in on a “lecture” I was giving to a new teammate describing the architecture and why the complexity was needed. My boss got eager and asked if it was something we could patent. I said no.

            About a year later, a coworker sent me an article from Netflix describing an extremely similar solution to what I had devised, from around the same time.

            Same problem, pursued completely independently, with very similar solutions.

            I believe that anti theft laws are sufficient for protecting proprietary algorithms/protocols, which does need to be protected. But ideas shouldn’t be patentable.

            I.E., gestures to navigate? No. Bezzles on smart screens? No. Backwards engineering your 5G protocol to be used with unapproved devices? Should be protected, but I don’t think patents should be the vehicle. Backwards engineering your own 5G protocol that’s very similar? Ehhhh debatable

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      “You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain”
      Nokia has chosen both ways at once.

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    steve huffman is violating my “being a dildo” patent

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    Nokia is like a mosquito that uses patents to leech off of other companies. What a great business model. A real useful niche they’re filling.

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      Nokia invents patented technology they use in their products (hint, not a cellphone)

      Another company illegally uses this technology without a license

      Nokia sues them for using their proprietary systems without permission

      “Nokia is such a parasite”

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      “What a mosquito”, he says to the trampling mastodon that basically runs all of the B2B wireless tech in the majority of the world.