Platform in general really doesn’t bother me the same way that technology platform does. In a historical sense like you’re talking about that would mean it was built on shared structure, which is a good way to build a reliable car, since there’ll be more chance to have worked out the kinks in shared parts vs new bespoke ones. In this context it’s just a rebadge for marketing

Where, to me, technology platform communicates more that the car is a vehicle (hah) for various tech widgets and gizmos that aren’t in line with it just being a car, and that that’s the real value add that lets them charge super high prices (IMO, without delivering much more actual value to the user). Perhaps I’m being overly harsh and it’s at least in part just driven (hah) by it being a ev where there are tons of different technological systems, computerized and otherwise

But that’s how I read it 🤷‍♂️. But yeah I’m not surprised a CEO would talk about it that way, that’s where the industry has been for quite some time now, and it shows little sign of changing aside from novel projects like the Slate truck (which aside from getting from daddy bezos, looks pretty cool!)

While that is true and it should be discussed, it is often difficult to assess a new product’s reliability unless there’s a clear existing track record from the company

But a company’s track record and the repairability of the car should absolutely be discussed in reviews

Not the person you’re replying to, but “technology platform” as a way of referring to a car grosses me out, personally.

Its a car. It should take me places. The technology in it, should be technology that takes me places safely, and that’s it. Calling it a technology platform frames it like a car is a consumer electronics device, and consumer electronics are generally user hostile feature bloated unrepairable nightmares 😅

Still sounds like a pretty well made car though. I’m not surprised china has very capable manufacturers.

Somehow a real pokemon design that someone actually made

Ahh, thank you for correcting me, I appreciate it

Have a good one!

Its frankly fucking comedic. Someone seriously thought that was a good way for it to communicate that its turned on 😂

I mean, it’s apt. But companies are usually better at pretending they’re not up to anything nefarious 😅

I’m gonna be really honest, to me that feels like it strays really far into reading people’s minds and headcannoning what’s going on on them. But perhaps you’ve seen more from him than I have, and you’re basing that assessment on greater familiarity.

I do think it’s worth being mindful about how much we assume we know the inner workings of random people through a screen, though.

Wait, he did? I had no idea

Is that what “fulu” has been about?

I wish my comment included that context for all the people who saw it but I was completely unaware

EDIT: Apparently louis left futo some number of months ago, thank you to another user for letting me know in a reply below

This is informative, and unfortunate.

I will be honest, I don’t really expect louis will wade into this issue at all, since he seems to be very uncomfortable with any of the “political” or partisan aspects of the issues he covers.

I can empathize with why one might be that way, but I hope I’m wrong, it would be rather disappointing.

Maybe it’s time for me to open some feature requests on the helicopter repo for futo keyboard features I’d really miss if I left it behind… It’d be good for both projects to be feature rich and competitive anyway

This has delighted or horrified all my friends, thank you ❤️

Yeah, I mostly just meant in terms of how much I directly relate with the perspectives of the protesters, it seemed at the time of my comment like most of the commenters looked at things somewhat differently to them (which is fine)

I do think you might really be underestimating how deeply addictive tech can be for many people. For people who grew up on platforms like facebook, Instagram, and twitter, and spent enough time there before reflecting on that pattern, those deeply engrained habits can be difficult to shake to the extent of causing not insignificant anxiety

I had social anxiety as a kid (still do) and so used those platforms almost none because they stressed me out (until I joined reddit in highschool), and even I really struggle with some amount of technology addiction I’m working really hard to replace with better patterns.

I pick my phone up and check all the apps for no reason. I feel a bit anxious if my phone isn’t near by. I run out of time in one app I have a time limit set for and immediately jump to another one. I feel a bit stressed when I have to put it down. Not intensely so, but the more I pay attention the more I can tell it’s there and see how it’s molded my behavioral patterns over time.

I have pretty good solutions to those problems, and think I’m making decent progress, but technology absolutely 1000% has warped my life to be about it. With me often serving it rather than it serving me. I can only imagine how difficult it might be for folks who spent lots of time on those platforms, and are less inclined to tinker with their tech and play with open source stuff, and take alternative technological routes

There were kids in it…? Christ :(

I might be one of the few in this thread who really empathizes with the perspectives of the protesters here

I’m not in a position to cut tech out of my life, but for people who are and dont need or depend on it for something important, it may do a lot of harm for little benefit.

But whether there’s important benefit will vary from person to person. I have a very isolating sleep disorder, and the internet allows me a little bit more connection than I would get otherwise. And home automation helps shoulder some of the load of managing environmental variables that impact my sleep. And there are also technological things that bring me joy.

But not everyone is in a position where their only connection to others is through the internet (if you’re queer in a small town, maybe it is, if you’re queer in a big city or you’re straight that probably isn’t an issue)

There are ofcourse benefits to technology, some of which you can better access through FOSS software, or community projects, or self hosting. But not everyone needs those things, and even those things can have harmful downsides. I think the hyper convenience that much of tech provides is not exactly great for us. Even the fediverse platforms can be addicting, can prioritize stuff that makes you angry, etc, because they copy the underlying design of proprietary social media (even without recommendation algorithms). I struggle to manage how much time I spend engaging with these platforms. Not as much as with reddit, but I still do, and am now creating structure around engaging more in moderation.

I don’t love creating e-waste though. I get that it’s symbolic, I still think it’s wasteful and has no meaningful upsides. It feels deeply privileged to not grasp how that could be a lifeline for poor people who need a way to connect, keep up with work, handle digital tasks like banking and telemedicine, etc, and to smash it on the ground instead of donating it to someone who couldn’t afford a reliable device.

Yay, glad it was a helpful suggestion! ☺️

Hope you have a lovely day!

I don’t know if it’d be the best solution, but if you’re not aware of the ones you can read from above, looking down into them, they might be an option worth considering :)

I hope you find something that works well for you! ☺️

Joy in solidarity and resistance is so important, it gives us the energy to keep fighting and encourages more people to get involved more than preaching importance ever could

There was an article a while back that talked about how humor was key to the rejection of fascism and that was a huge part of why

Interesting, I think I follow all of that. Thank you very much for explaining

Gotcha, thank you very much for filling me in, I really appreciate it!

I do think there’s value in ensuring everything low level is open source, but at least with linux phones none of the higher level stuff is really in a good state yet 😅

Its nice to hear this will be an improvement to custom ROMs. Though the future of custom ROMs is feeling a little shaky with the stuff Google has announcing lately 🥲

Nice!! Thank you for filling me in, I appreciate it ☺️

Weird…