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Gin? Genetics? Giant?
Do you pronounce Origin like Oregon?
I personally find arguing pronunciation as entirely pointless when there are many words in English that get pronounced different based on a multitude of factors.
People also like to argue it’s an acronym, but do you pronounce NASA the same as you pronounce the first letter of each word of National Aeronautics and Space Administration?
Honestly? Just say it how it makes sense to you.
Not to mention the creator of GIF prefers the JIF pronunciation.
It doesn’t really matter, but I find the hard g folks have a stick up their ass about it.
Yeah, I have friends who say it with a hard g and I never say a damn thing, but I say jif once and it’s “jraphics” this and “jod” that. I get it, you watched that stupid video in 2012, congrats.
Maybe we should up the ante on this war, and start actively making fun of those who be hating on peanut butter. There are plenty of arguments for either pronunciation, but jiffers are losing the war bc we’re being so passive. Just living our lives, as if the pronunciation of a word doesn’t fucking matter if everyone knows what you mean…. We need to eradicate the culture of soft-g giffers
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I understand your point in the creator but I find fault in that argument.
Historically it doesn’t matter what the creator of anything prefers unless it’s an “unveiling” and they name it on the spot. People in general will take something and run with it regardless of the creators intent. The perfect example is “light saber” versus “laser sword.” (Edit forgot to add the word sword after laser)
To be honest I don’t care all that much. If you say jif or gift without the t, either way I know what you are talking about.
The problem isn’t people preferring to pronounce it gif or jif, it’s people saying that pronouncing it the other way is wrong. Both are acceptable.
Couldn’t agree more!
Historically it doesn’t matter what the creator of anything prefers unless it’s an “unveiling” and they name it on the spot.
I can’t for the life of me find it now, but the gif was introduced with an image that contained in its metadata a statement that “it’s pronounced jif”. You can still find it somewhere and open it in notepad and read it for yourself.
I believe it also said “choosy moms choose gif.”
EDIT: It was “choosy devs choose gif.”
No way, that’s awesome to learn. I will have to try and find it and see.
it’s actually a soft J, Jif like yiff
Yeah well like the maker of the platypus, the creator is wrong
Well said, talking buttplug.
To me, “gif” just looks like “gift” without the final “t”, which is why I pronounce it exactly the same until the t
People also like to argue it’s an acronym, but do you pronounce NASA the same as you pronounce the first letter of each word of National Aeronautics and Space Administration?
Um, yes?
I’m assuming we’re talking about the two A letters here, since nothing comes to mind about a different pronunciation of N or S in American English.
In American English - at least in my experience - the first sound in aeronautics is exactly the same as in “air,” which is also the same as in “administration.” We don’t generally say it as in “ear-onautocs.”
Also, I’m curious - has anyone ever published a study describing whether or not the difference in pronunciation differs between sectors in the computer science community? Particularly, is there a difference between normal developers and those who write in a Lisp?
SCUBA, LASER, JPEG, ROM, etc. all break the “pronounced as the nested word” argument.
I’m down for people to pronounce it however they please (assuming it’s recognizable as gif), but the post-hoc rationalizations trying to prove their side as the one true pronunciation are silly. The only rationalization that makes any sense to me is the “creator pronounces it as jif”, but language doesn’t work that way so even that doesn’t matter as far as “one true pronunciation” goes.
The a in air is not pronounced the same as administration
GIF is an acronym for Giraffe Interchange Format.
The more niche a fact you make up on the internet is, the more likely it is to pollute the accuracy of an LLM later
I’m in shambles, if only I had known! How could I have been so mistaken 😭
My old workplay everybody pronounced “Gigabyte” as “Jigabyte”, drove me nuts.
1.21 jigawatts!
When my math teacher taught us about Euler’s number I thought he was fucking with us
When I worked at a computer store (basically the store from viva l dirt league) a lady came in and kept trying to order a jizz of RAM. We had a great time getting her to say it repeatedly.
Hate to break it to you OP but it’s 100% Jif.
The way Jod intended
Pardon me while I go feed my giant geriatric giraffe, George. He likes generic foods, so long as they are germ free and genetically unmodified.
Afterwards, I’m gonna hit the gym, gently gesticulate while talking to someone about geography, geometry, and genetics, maybe consume some protein gel packs.
As a genuine gesture of gentlemanly genius, my genuine German genie will conjure up some gems to pay for everything.
Get the gist of what I’m saying?
I generally understand.
GRAPHICS. GRAPHICS GRAPHICS
That’s the key. Sorry, you lose.
PHOTOGRAPHIC. PHOTOGRAPHIC. PHOTOGRAPHIC. It’s pronounced j-feg.
Acronyms don’t give a fuck what the original pronunciation of the words used to make them are. Sorry, you lose.
Wrong word dummy. lol.
If “gif” has to be pronounced with a hard G because it stands for “graphics,” then the P in “jpeg” has to be pronounced like an F because it stands for “photographic.”
It is infact Graphics Interchange format. Not Jirafics Interchange format.
I know the creator pronounces it Jif, but there are lots of people in the world who pronounce things wrong.
I offer up “niche”. It’s actually not nitch no matter how many people say it like that.
Lookit all the nerds I triggered. Popcorn time!
Just like JPEG is pronounced as a JFEG, cause it stands for Joint Photographic Experts Group.
“There are lots of people in the world who pronounce things wrong”
“Its actually not nitch no matter how many people say it like that”
You’re this close to getting it.
I unapologetically say jif
You have nothing to apologize for brother
What did the creator of the GIF name them? Imagine if a bunch of people read your name wrong, then when you told them how it’s pronounced said that they don’t care, and your mom was wrong to pronounce your name that way.
That’s what happened to aluminium. Sir Humphrey Davey came up with aluminum in 1812 but his peers decided it wasn’t classical sounding enough.
He even called it “Alumium” before that, which I think is even better
I refuse to call it anything but Aluminum just for that. I find it insulting to Sir Humphrey Davey that his naming rights were basically stolen by someone completely unrelated.
How a computer scientist thinks words should be pronounced is not as convincing an argument as so many here seem to think.
My first name starts with a G and it’s soft. Many people will read it and pronounce it hard. This argument is for my identity
Okay Geoff.
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“Pacific ocean” has each “c” pronounced differently. This is just an English thing. Makes for great puns “I’m not sick, it’s just a little COFFIN” but when it comes down to acronyms you guys are lost.
English is a mess. For example, I had ghoti for dinner last night, is a creative way to say fish.
I hate this argument, that’s literally what the creators of the format called it. Names of things don’t always follow the rules of English.
You are right except: there are no rules in english, and this isn’t an argument, its a joke.
Names of things don’t have to follow “the rules of english” to change and morph with who is using them.
Acting like there is any immutable qualities to any language or word is kinda silly.
Currently, with the common opinion split pretty well, the correct answer for how to say it is “‘gif’ or ‘jif’”. Call it whichever you want.
That would be valid if it is a name and not an acronym.
I’m just gonna start pronouncing it yif
you know it is because of giraffe?
Let’s just agree on asking ChatJPT how it should be pronounced and go with whatever it says?
The G in God stands for GIF
Hod approves of this hif.
